Nolan Puts Official Title on Third Batman Flick

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Halceon said:
Twoface, clearly. The setup for his appearance was so blatantly obvious in Dark Knight, that i'm surprised there is such speculation at all. It also fits with the claim, that some characters will return.
Except that Two Face is dead.
As in, pushed off a roof, no reason to be alive anymore, no chance of revival dead.

His job was to show that even the might can fall.
 

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Haha I'd be down to see Gentleman Ghost as the villain. It'd be a fresh villain as far as the movies go (if I'm remembering correctly)
 

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Haha I'd be down to see Gentleman Ghost as the villain. It'd be a fresh villain as far as the movies go (if I'm remembering correctly)
...but the Gentleman Ghost is a ghost. Nolan has removed all magic/sci-fi from his movies. It just wouldn't work, as awesome (and out of place) that would be. Hell, I'd like to see Bat-Mite at some point, even though I know it would never EVER happen. (On a side note, I'd really like to see Supes go against Mr. Myxpyxlstyx. ... I hope I spelled that close to correctly.)
 

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The penguin doesn't get enough credit for being a really, really, troubling victim when he goes batshit.

The dude is not shy about murdering people with a gunbrella.

Or knifing people with a knifebrella.
 

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Zeromaeus said:
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thenumberthirteen said:
*Crosses fingers* Come on Condiment King!
Yyeeeessss. Seriously if I was a billionaire dark-gritty-angst director, that is exactly the kind of shit I would pull in the last film of the series, and fly off cackling into the night.


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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
In that case, I'm guessing Red Hood and Black Mask.
Nah, they wouldn't do Red Hood so soon after the animated flick.

I think the only real possibility is a Catwoman tale. Scarecrow and Ra'as already had their moments, most of the others are wholly too ridiculous, and it'd make for some much-needed romantic levity after that whole bint Rachel thing. Maybe Hatter, but I'd be surprised.

Halle Berry come back and bring your cleavage.
Don't be so sure about Red Hood. Him being in the animated film just means more people will be familiar with him which is good for marketing. Plus it would rule.
Don't forget Red Hood was Batman's old Robin. The one who died. Guess he got better... Anyway, Robin hasn't appeared in the Nolan-verse yet, has he?
Hasn't yet and never will according to Word of God. Probably for the best.

Although now that I'm thinking it, I was struck in TDK with how insidiously they downplayed Barbara Gordon's existence. Like, she was there, but she wasn't really there and the breezeover seemed rather intentional, so maybe she'll play a role? Likely a small one, but it could be neat to see hints at the "Bat-family" that got so foofy in the animated.

Although this is Gritty Reboot Land, and so Batman must never ever be happy.
Well, my personal hope for this would be a storyline based around Bane and Black Mask. Bane breaks the bat. The whole circus thing plays out with a young member of the Greyson troupe being adopted by a certain m/b(?)illionaire shortly after the murder of said child's parents.

It could segue really easily into a second series of movies. Concluding the trilogy about the origin of The Batman and going into something else. Something Robin related. I actually see Robin as an important part of the whole Batman ... thing. The next series could be set as a "... years later" thing to set their ages up where they're supposed to be.

More likely, however, Nolan will just move on to the next thing. Who else could he do? Punisher maybe? I don't know. Probably something non-comic-book related.
He's doing Superman, probably another trilogy, and I thiiiiink they're pushing on a JLA movie after that.
...what?
That wouldn't work. They haven't set up any of the necessary DC-verse continuity for a JLA movie, which I would love the hell out of (I'm uber-psyched for Avengers as is). They need to set up the original members like The Flash, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Aquaman first (I didn't include Green Lantern because he's getting a movie). All of that within the same continuity (like the Marvel movies). Hell, the Nolan-verse was based on a completely no magic/no sci-fi basis. What the hell would Wonder Woman fight in that universe? No, the DC movies need inter-continuity before JLA is even viable. Trust me, I want JLA, I just don't see it happening. Also, Nolan is only writing for Superman. A different director was slated for that movie.

...
I really want a Flash movie now...

Oh yeah? Right, yes, that's what I meant. *cough*

The way I see it, any further DC endeavors, period, will have to quietly act like NolanBatman doesn't exist. It's completely removed from the entire world. And that's IF they go for any inter-title continuity, which, while it would be the most badass thing ever, isn't likely due to all the usual Hollywood reasons.

What I want more than anything is for every one of the main players to get at least one really good film - set in the same universe - all tied together like sexy DNA, so that they could cap it off with a JLA film every couple of years. That kind of thing could go on pretty much forever, and I don't think it'd stop raking in the money. But the problem with THAT is that Batman would have to be excluded because really who's gonna shell out funding for more Goddamn Batman anytime soon.

I don't even get why the titles have to be so sectioned. I bet the upcoming Superman and Lantern, too, will be set in their own little worlds. Seems dumb to me, not to leave open the possibility of tying in other heroes here and there. Even in just little ways, casually mentioning that news out of Gotham's been less awful lately (cuz the dark knight rises lol) or whatever.

Jesus I talk a lot.
 

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I thought that the actor played dent/two face, said flat out that dent was alive or strongly hinted that he was, two face being alive in the batman world served to keep one of batmans greatest failures right in his face, batman always wanted to save dent but two face just went on killing. ANd considering tdk was as much about dent as it was the joker and setting up two face it would just be plain damn odd to murder two face 15 minutes after he shows up.

penguin is a mob boss, granted a mob boss on crack, but we already did the mob boss thing in br i would find rather odd to pick another mob centered movie for the 3rd one.

having two face for the main villain would be another device to redeem batman's name, all the murders two face did they pinned on batman to save dents name. if dent were walking talking and killing people it is quite possible that he himself would clear batman's name and batman once again has to stop his friend from his insanity.

so my call is we do see two face and maybe one other villan, maybe a penguin, catwoman etc.

there will be no bat girl since barbara gordan was all of like 8 years old in tdk, not unless a bunch of years have passed between tdk and tdkr.
 

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My hope is to see Bane done correctly, you know, the man who broke the Bat ...

We still have the Scarecrow loose in the streets, I'd expect to see him again even if it is just a minor cameo. The Penguin would have been good with the current settings Gotham since he could easily be re-imaged as a Mob Boss who just happened to like good suits, but, that's not going to happen.

As much as I don't really care to see Catwoman, it seems to be one of the few obvious choices.
 

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M-JN said:
Zeromaeus said:
M-JN said:
Zeromaeus said:
M-JN said:
thenumberthirteen said:
*Crosses fingers* Come on Condiment King!
Yyeeeessss. Seriously if I was a billionaire dark-gritty-angst director, that is exactly the kind of shit I would pull in the last film of the series, and fly off cackling into the night.


Zeromaeus said:
SAT4NSLILHELPER said:
M-JN said:
Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
In that case, I'm guessing Red Hood and Black Mask.
Nah, they wouldn't do Red Hood so soon after the animated flick.

I think the only real possibility is a Catwoman tale. Scarecrow and Ra'as already had their moments, most of the others are wholly too ridiculous, and it'd make for some much-needed romantic levity after that whole bint Rachel thing. Maybe Hatter, but I'd be surprised.

Halle Berry come back and bring your cleavage.
Don't be so sure about Red Hood. Him being in the animated film just means more people will be familiar with him which is good for marketing. Plus it would rule.
Don't forget Red Hood was Batman's old Robin. The one who died. Guess he got better... Anyway, Robin hasn't appeared in the Nolan-verse yet, has he?
Hasn't yet and never will according to Word of God. Probably for the best.

Although now that I'm thinking it, I was struck in TDK with how insidiously they downplayed Barbara Gordon's existence. Like, she was there, but she wasn't really there and the breezeover seemed rather intentional, so maybe she'll play a role? Likely a small one, but it could be neat to see hints at the "Bat-family" that got so foofy in the animated.

Although this is Gritty Reboot Land, and so Batman must never ever be happy.
Well, my personal hope for this would be a storyline based around Bane and Black Mask. Bane breaks the bat. The whole circus thing plays out with a young member of the Greyson troupe being adopted by a certain m/b(?)illionaire shortly after the murder of said child's parents.

It could segue really easily into a second series of movies. Concluding the trilogy about the origin of The Batman and going into something else. Something Robin related. I actually see Robin as an important part of the whole Batman ... thing. The next series could be set as a "... years later" thing to set their ages up where they're supposed to be.

More likely, however, Nolan will just move on to the next thing. Who else could he do? Punisher maybe? I don't know. Probably something non-comic-book related.
He's doing Superman, probably another trilogy, and I thiiiiink they're pushing on a JLA movie after that.
...what?
That wouldn't work. They haven't set up any of the necessary DC-verse continuity for a JLA movie, which I would love the hell out of (I'm uber-psyched for Avengers as is). They need to set up the original members like The Flash, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Aquaman first (I didn't include Green Lantern because he's getting a movie). All of that within the same continuity (like the Marvel movies). Hell, the Nolan-verse was based on a completely no magic/no sci-fi basis. What the hell would Wonder Woman fight in that universe? No, the DC movies need inter-continuity before JLA is even viable. Trust me, I want JLA, I just don't see it happening. Also, Nolan is only writing for Superman. A different director was slated for that movie.

...
I really want a Flash movie now...

Oh yeah? Right, yes, that's what I meant. *cough*

The way I see it, any further DC endeavors, period, will have to quietly act like NolanBatman doesn't exist. It's completely removed from the entire world. And that's IF they go for any inter-title continuity, which, while it would be the most badass thing ever, isn't likely due to all the usual Hollywood reasons.

What I want more than anything is for every one of the main players to get at least one really good film - set in the same universe - all tied together like sexy DNA, so that they could cap it off with a JLA film every couple of years. That kind of thing could go on pretty much forever, and I don't think it'd stop raking in the money. But the problem with THAT is that Batman would have to be excluded because really who's gonna shell out funding for more Goddamn Batman anytime soon.

I don't even get why the titles have to be so sectioned. I bet the upcoming Superman and Lantern, too, will be set in their own little worlds. Seems dumb to me, not to leave open the possibility of tying in other heroes here and there. Even in just little ways, casually mentioning that news out of Gotham's been less awful lately (cuz the dark knight rises lol) or whatever.

Jesus I talk a lot.
You talk just enough/not enough as far as I'm concerned.
What DC needs to do is establish their own studio like Marvel did. That's why Marvel has had such ease with their inter-continuity. If they can get all of their titles under one studio, then making a JLA movie (or even Batman/Superman) would only take as long as establishing the founding members. Unfortunately, the movies, as they are, are isolated from one another. You're not going to see Supes fly by in the Batman movies, and Green Lantern probably won't be seen chewing the fat with Clark Kent as an interview for the Daily Planet (That is the newspaper, right? I'm mostly a Marvel guy.). When the movies are isolated into their own separate worlds it becomes increasingly difficult to bring them together. It CAN be done however with a good enough excuse and enough work. It could be done as a joint project between titles. The Starheart passes by Earth, causing people to acquire magic and turn into meta-humans. Superman punches Bizarro so hard that reality unfolds and pulls in the other realities. Something sufficiently comic-book-y like that. The problem is, every studio working on these movies has to recognize the change and respect it, keeping the interconnected nature of the new DC-verse. As good as the Nolan Batman has been, it only limits itself in how far it can go. If you limit yourself like that, you'll never get the strength to throw impossibility to the curb.
 

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Halceon said:
Twoface, clearly. The setup for his appearance was so blatantly obvious in Dark Knight, that i'm surprised there is such speculation at all. It also fits with the claim, that some characters will return.
yeeeaaaaaahh...umm...he's dead. He died at the end of Dark Knight. I thought that was pretty clear. Nigh inescapably obvious. And as far as I know, the Joker is the only one who can keep coming back from the dead
 

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I honestly think Two-Face is coming back. One, he fell the same distance as Batman and Batman got right back up. Two-Face could have simply been knocked out. I say they locked him away in Arkham, buried Dent in a closed casket, and covered it all up. If something went down at the Asylum and Two-Faced managed to get free, it would be the perfect motivation to get revenge. And because of the coin being his conscience, it wouldn't be hard to think that a killing spree would be far off. To bring Batman out of hiding perhaps. And then bring in Catwoman as a love interest for Bruce, even as he is tracking her criminal affairs, unaware of who she really is.
 

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Lets see who's left. Ra's al Ghul and Two-Face are dead. Riddler and Penguin are out. Joker and Scarecrow are in jail. Mr. Freeze, Mad Hatter, Killer Croc, Firefly, and The Ventriloquist don't seem too likely. Bane might work.

I think Hush would be pretty cool, but he's not nearly as recognizable as The Joker. I'm cautiously optimistic though
 

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No Riddler OR Penguin? Hm... then who could it be? Maybe Poison Ivy, Bane, Mr. Freeze - Oh dear God, NOT ANOTHER BATMAN & ROBIN! AAAAUUUGHH!!

Tonight's forecast, a freeeeeeze is coming! Revenge, is a dish best served cold. Let's... kick some ice!
 

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Tom Goldman said:
Nolan Puts Official Title on Third Batman Flick



The third movie in the modern Christopher Nolan Batman franchise has been titled, and a prominent villain ruled out of it.

Since Christopher Nolan has been at the helm of the Batman movies, his Batman has already begun and successfully returned as a dark knight. In the upcoming third Nolan Batman film, the dark knight is going to rise.

Nolan revealed to the LA Times that his next movie will be called The Dark Knight Rises. He and his brother Jonah have written a script which is based on a story conceptualized by Nolan and David Goyer.

The Riddler has been thrown around as the logical next choice for a villain after the Joker, who definitely won't be back [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/101135-Joker-Wont-Return-in-Nolans-Batman-Films], but Nolan also shot down the hopes of green, question-mark adorned clothing fans. He confirmed that the Riddler won't be in The Dark Knight Rises, but gave absolutely no hint about any deviants that would.

It's rumored that Catwoman [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104753-Rumor-Dark-Knight-Director-Looking-for-a-Catwoman] will make an appearance, but this is unconfirmed. The Joker was what made The Dark Knight stand head and shoulders above Batman Begins for me, so I'm wondering what kind of antagonist can reach the same level, or even close to it, in Rises.

Nolan did say: "We'll use many of the same characters as we have all along, and we'll be introducing some new ones." Really, if it's not going to be the Riddler, it has to be the Penguin. He might have a cute name, but Nolan could easily take the character to a dark place as Tim Burton did in Batman Returns. Edit: I've been reminded that the Penguin has already been ruled out. Woe is me.

Thanks for the tip Frank_Sinatra_ [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/view/Frank_Sinatra_]!

Source: Hero Complex [http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/10/27/christopher-nolan-reveals-title-of-third-batman-film-and-that-it-wont-be-the-riddler/]

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Frank Sinatra saves the day once more...

Well crap, if its Catwoman the movie's going to suck imo, I don't see why the riddler has been ruled out... =[
 

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*reads beginning of article*
ah! Then maybe it'll be the pengui- *finishes article*
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- *sigh*
 

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MrFreeze....


Im just saying

Yeah we covered that base but...hey now we have this version...

Riddler Poison Ivy and MrFreeze have been done
 

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I think it's obvious that the villain is going to be the Music Meister.

Neil Patrick Harris could even reprise his role.
 

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Mr. Freeze? It could be pretty cool. Hopefully Scarecrow cameos again and makes a third consecutive appearance in the films. Killer Croc? I'd love to see something with him.
 

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The Great JT said:
The Dark Knight Rises?

Not bad, but not great, either. I would love to see The Penguin, The Riddler, Bane, Mr. Freeze or Clock King.

Now, I should probably clarify what I mean by "I'd love to see Clock King." I'm talking about the Clock King that knows that he'll have beaten you unconscious two seconds after you finish reading this sentence. The Clock King who knows that the burglar alarm will go off four seconds after he enters the vault at 3:28 PM, that it will take nine minutes for the police to arrive on the scene, the train's doors will open at 3:37, boarding will begin at 3:40, and has the route planned out so that he's on the train at exactly 3:43:25 PM and comfortably sipping tea when the train leaves the station at 3:45. THAT is what I consider the incarnation of the Clock King; a master strategist who can formulate where to be and what he should be doing at a given time down to the millisecond, the genius who knows that you had dinner at 6:44 PM last Tuesday, that you took a 12-minute thirty-nine-second shower and went to bed at 9:17:22 and that exactly 24 minutes after you go to bed the cyanide pill that he slipped into the steak your wife bought and you ate for dinner will take effect. Now doesn't that sound like an intellect to stack up against Batman?
Wow i've never heard of the clock king but you sold me. I think it would work awesome for nolans batman causes its based in a "realish" world and out there characters don't really work.
 

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Sporky111 said:
I think it's obvious that the villain is going to be the Music Meister.

Neil Patrick Harris could even reprise his role.
YES PLEASE.

BEST. BATMAN VILLAIN. EVAR.