Norwegian Retailers Get Rid Of Games After Attacks

[Bags159]

And nothing of value was lost.

And nothing of value was lost.

Agreed.

But why was World of Warcraft pulled? I can see why they'd stop selling violent shooters concurrent with what actually happened, but how is that relevant, even if he used it as a "cover story"?

In my honest opinion CSS is the only good game there, and its much cheaper to get it off steam

And nothing of value was lost.

haha first comment, QFT

I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to think such..but it seems quite a few agree.

And nothing of value was lost.

what are you talking about?
Counter Strike: Source is awesome

In my honest opinion CSS is the only good game there, and its much cheaper to get it off steam

A multiplayer only quickscoping ego tournament...

Nope, nothing of value was lost to the industry.

And nothing of value was lost.

Ditto.

Well, except for Homefront.

Slightly.

And nothing of value was lost.

This, concise, precise.

honestly though, these games are just killing simulators and provide little to nothing to stimulate the brain, is it any bad thing if they are resigned to the scrap heap?

And nothing of value was lost.

You /thread ed on the first post. Well played indeed.

If only we could get these games pulled in the states, innovation explosion shall occureth!

And nothing of value was lost.

Pretty accurate statement right here.

I want to know about Bobby Kotick's reaction.

But I agree, nothing of value was lost.

You guys ARE joking, right?

And nothing of value was lost.

First they came for the Call of Duty but I did nothing for I hated that game...

Those retailers are morons. And that's just putting it mildly.

How dare they show basic respect to the families of the victims.

If he had claimed that he read a book before killing your child, it doesn't matter how accurate the statement is, you'd be glad and comforted that the local bookstores pulled the book from shelves, even if only temporarily.

I don't give a damn how "calm and reasoned" you think you are (as evident in "the retailers are morons"), if you lost your child, you'd feel damn good about the killer's manifesto being thwarted in some way.

Should they pull water too, because he couldn't have done this without water. Video games don't train you to kill people, Penn and Teller pretty much debunked this.

My captcha is "norwegian cruise line"...

 

[teh_Canape]

Should they pull water too, because he couldn't have done this without water.

My captcha is "norwegian cruise line"...

kids could drown on water too

BAN IT I SAY

 

[lacktheknack]

Those retailers are morons. And that's just putting it mildly.

How dare they show basic respect to the families of the victims.

If he had claimed that he read a book before killing your child, it doesn't matter how accurate the statement is, you'd be glad and comforted that the local bookstores pulled the book from shelves, even if only temporarily.

I don't give a damn how "calm and reasoned" you think you are (as evident in "the retailers are morons"), if you lost your child, you'd feel damn good about the killer's manifesto being thwarted in some way.

Should they pull water too, because he couldn't have done this without water. Video games don't train you to kill people, Penn and Teller pretty much debunked this.

The thing is, the killer claimed that he used it in his training regimen. He didn't claim that he trained himself with water.

I don't give a damn about rationality here, grieving people aren't rational. It's only a temporary pull, for the simple reason of helping people move on.

Take it from someone who went through four years of non-stop, agonizing grief: Every bit helps. Even the token and symbolic gestures.

 

[matsy]

While I can't say I'm really a fan of any of the games they've pulled, that is irrelevant and this is still ridiculous. Even if it's only a temperory measure, I fail to see how this respects the families of the victims. If anything, it insults the intelligence of everyone in Norway that can play a game and then not go on a violent rampage. Y'know, like everyone that wasn't already extremely mentally unstable in the first place.

So true.

It's not like he did it BECAUSE of video games. I'm sure he did other things in his spare time. Maybe he liked drinking coffee, so the coffee shops should close out of respect.

Seriously though, he was on a shitload of drugs to make him more alert and stuff so I sure as hell hope those drugs aren't available across the counter.

 

[Bags159]

Those retailers are morons. And that's just putting it mildly.

How dare they show basic respect to the families of the victims.

If he had claimed that he read a book before killing your child, it doesn't matter how accurate the statement is, you'd be glad and comforted that the local bookstores pulled the book from shelves, even if only temporarily.

I don't give a damn how "calm and reasoned" you think you are (as evident in "the retailers are morons"), if you lost your child, you'd feel damn good about the killer's manifesto being thwarted in some way.

Should they pull water too, because he couldn't have done this without water. Video games don't train you to kill people, Penn and Teller pretty much debunked this.

The thing is, the killer claimed that he used it in his training regimen. He didn't claim that he trained himself with water.

I don't give a damn about rationality here, grieving people aren't rational. It's only a temporary pull, for the simple reason of helping people move on.

Take it from someone who went through four years of non-stop, agonizing grief: Every bit helps. Even the token and symbolic gestures.

But you can't use it in your training regimen. That's as insane as if I claimed I used Motorstorm to learn how to race off-road.

If someone ran over a family member and blamed GTA, frankly I'd be confused and maybe insulted. Video games don't kill people. He killed people.

Get a spine Norwegian retailers. People aren't retarded.

 

[lacktheknack]

Those retailers are morons. And that's just putting it mildly.

How dare they show basic respect to the families of the victims.

If he had claimed that he read a book before killing your child, it doesn't matter how accurate the statement is, you'd be glad and comforted that the local bookstores pulled the book from shelves, even if only temporarily.

I don't give a damn how "calm and reasoned" you think you are (as evident in "the retailers are morons"), if you lost your child, you'd feel damn good about the killer's manifesto being thwarted in some way.

Should they pull water too, because he couldn't have done this without water. Video games don't train you to kill people, Penn and Teller pretty much debunked this.

The thing is, the killer claimed that he used it in his training regimen. He didn't claim that he trained himself with water.

I don't give a damn about rationality here, grieving people aren't rational. It's only a temporary pull, for the simple reason of helping people move on.

Take it from someone who went through four years of non-stop, agonizing grief: Every bit helps. Even the token and symbolic gestures.

But you can't use it in your training regimen. That's as insane as if I claimed I used Motorstorm to learn how to race off-road.

But it doesn't sound insane to some of the people that are affected.

I said "token and symbolic" for a reason. Stop trying to make everything fit your point of view, the entire crux of my argument relies on being empathetic and viewing it from someone else's emotional viewpoint.

If someone ran over a family member and blamed GTA, frankly I'd be confused and maybe insulted. Video games don't kill people. He killed people.

YOU'D be confused and insulted. Someone else wouldn't respond the same as you.

Get a spine Norwegian retailers. People aren't retarded.

No, they aren't. It's just that "video games cause violence" is currently conventional wisdom, and stunningly, not EVERYONE has done their research, or even played one, whether you like it or not. Retardedness is irrelevant.

 

[Vault101]

waits...world of warcraft?....what??

one of thease things is not like the other....

 

[Black Watch]

Yea, because Call of Duty is soooo realistic. I would definitely turn to that game to hone my shooting skillz!!!

So is anyone thinking he is bullshiting about some of this or what?

 

[Blind Sight]

Well I certainly hope that they've also figured out what movies, books, music, washing machine brand and toilet cleaner he preferred as well and pulled them from shelves. What, they're all about as relevant as the video games. Hell, with the media flaring up over some of the literature he had on his bookshelves why aren't some retailers removing them for 'respect'. Utter nonsense. I mean, they're free to do whatever they want, but it's still utter nonsense propped up by fear-mongering and what I like to call 'douchebag worship'(i.e. obsessing over a mass murderer or killer and their lifestyle).

 

[Metalrocks]

amazing how stupid this world gets by the minute. like using the brain is really hard to do now. not for long and every one will blame santa clause for making children sad because he doesnt exist.
like pulling of these games will really make a difference or help the people who lost some one in that attack.
just stupid. simply stupid.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Feel free to correct me, but doesn't Norway have a compulsory Military Service for all men? He's trolling the fuck out of you, Modern Warfare didn't teach him shit, he learned as part of his own legally mandated service.

This is not an argument against Norway's National Service, just saying, his actual instruction from firearms came from a highly accredited source: the Norwegian Armed Forces, which makes me feel something I'm unable to articulate properly.......

 

[Abedeus]

Those retailers are morons. And that's just putting it mildly.

No, they're not morons. Temporarily pulling those games from the shelves is not only the right thing to do out of respect for the people who were hurt by the massacre, it is the right thing to do out of a business standpoint as well. In a store of that size, with that many people shopping in it, for every single little detail that isn't perfect, you have a customer that is ready to throw a fit over it. I've seen people go to the newspaper and cry "scandal!" over issues far, far less significant than this.

Regardless of where these retailers stand in the whole "games cause violence" debate (odds are they don't even care), it would be moronic for them to risk upsetting paying customers, especially when it comes to an issue that is currently ass sensitive as this.

Can I commit a killing spree in half the Europe, then list them few hundred thousands of songs, books, movies and video games, and get them all banned everywhere?

"Oh, this is the game that CAUSED him to kill... it's of course not his upbringing or emotional/psychical problems, it was all the game's fault".

 

[LarenzoAOG]

And nothing of value was lost.

Agreed.

But why was World of Warcraft pulled? I can see why they'd stop selling violent shooters concurrent with what actually happened, but how is that relevant, even if he used it as a "cover story"?

What if all the psycotic 13 year olds got it in their heads to shoot lighning out of their hands and throw axes at each other? Either way does it really matter? They would pull fucking Barby Pony Adventure off the shelf if he claimed he played it.

 

[DarkRawen]

Actually, they put some attention to what kind of games he was playing before he even mentioned what he had used them to. In the newspaper the next day, they named some of the games he played just out of the blue.

As for the removing the games from the stores? I don't believe that has any worth, unless some families requested it, which I doubt.

 

[Crystalite]

What is the big deal!?

They did not ban the games, or even call for their ban. They just chose to not sell them for a while to show sympathy and respect, and to avoid customers or people randomly walking past the store to get upset.
Also no one is saying that these games caused him to kill. He just said that it helped him train. Everybody knows that is bullshit, but when such a tragedy is involved, it does not hurt to show as much consideration for the victims as you can, if it is rational or not.

Can we please get over ourselves enough to see that the feelings of those involved is more important than beeing able to buy CoD in a brick and mortar in Norway? Do you really think anyone actually cares, that now they have to have it shipped to them, provided they don´t all ready have it if they are at all interessted? Do you really want to argue that Modern Warfare is such a work of high art that doing without it for a few weeks will really impact the lives of, well, anyone?

Calm down and stop calling people morons who have very good reasons for what they did, while you have no reason what so ever to even care.

 

[mysecondlife]

(if I remember correctly) it kinda reminds me of when September 11 happened... violent action movie production was paused and I remember a music video being refilmed because near the end the house crumbled down...

in a way, I suppose I can understand the retailers pulling games off the shelf. but I think explosive movies like Transformers deserve to be pulled off the theatres as well.

 

[Delusibeta]

Ironically, no mention of them removing the (also mentioned by Breivik) Dragon Age or Bioshock series from sale, just your sterotypical manshoots. And WoW, for some reason. Then again, he did only mention them once, and usually followed by the words to the effect of "and I enjoyed it".

(Source: this excellent blog post [http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2011/07/25/3277688.htm] by the Australian ABC, refuting the country's Christian lobby's claims that videogames were involved.)

There also the small fact that the games in question are still all available in your digital distribution store of choice.

 

[Yopaz]

"out of respect and in respect to those affected [by the attacks]."

huh, really? what about the food and drinks he likes...And his favourite utility company,political party, music band, his (assumed) porn collection? What about them!?

Maddness >.>

Lacoste is actually suffering because he wore Lacoste clothes in public after the incident and wrote that Lacoste is his favourite brand in his manifesto. I would say that on top of being a horrible person for the acts of terror he's also a major troll. I'm sad to see my city harmed this way and I am also sad to see another setback for gaming.

I'm assuming that for those things, he only...
food/drink: Baby kittens and blood
Utility Company: None
Political party: Commie!
Music Band: Marylin Manson (when HASN'T he ever been blamed for this shit...)
Porn: Child porn.

Lets also assume that Call of Duty and World of Warcraft makes us like these things more (I mean hey, Gnomes are kid sized...).
HATE MORE ON THEM!

Funny how you should put the blame on communists when it's clearly been stated everywhere that he was a right wing extremist not a left wing.

 

[redeemer09]

I'm Norwegian. And I'm offended. Big time. I thought we were immune to the American levels of stupid.

This just proved me wrong.

there was never an american level of stupid.people are stupid in general except yahtzee

 

[redeemer09]

america ,if we want to keep the respect of norway. we must join in on the festivities and destroy all the cods in our local gamestops,walmarts, and targets.

You get the pitch forks, I'll get the angry mob

Gotta love the trolls.

over 50 people were killed that day. By a single man.

This world can be fucked up.

Really dude? Really? Did you just find this out? Are you that naive?
OT:No one here is making fun of the people killed (I could be wrong), we're just making fun of the retailers.... and some of the games (mostly the games).

but but one of them has turned into a newt D: