Nosgoth Brings Multiplayer To Legacy Of Kain
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The sad truth is I've been waiting so long I'll take anything at this stage. How disappointed I am will depend on how well the new studio handles it. If it's done well, I'll get right in there and I won't regret a thing. If they've just turned it into a new COD I will be breaking out the anthrax.
Hrm. I'm torn about this. On the one hand, it could be quite something; exploring Nosgoth, learning more about it etc. etc. On the other it could be beyond awful. The really irritating thing is that I'm fairly certain that, even if the game does feature Kain, Raziel et al. then they'll probably ditch the old voice actors as that seems to be a trend atm. A trend that I simply cannot abide by. I mean really; it just wouldn't be good enough.
The voice cast was so good to, apart from Simon Templeman there was also René Auberjonois , Richard Doyle , Michael Bell and lets not forget Tony Jay (who is the only person who should be replaced as he unfortunately died).Jamous said:
Seriously squeenix why just why LOK/SR is one of the best single player story telling games ever created and you are trying to turn it into this travesty.
When I saw the title of this article, I thought they were adding multi-player to an already existing LoK game. That made me do a spit-take. It also made me shout "WHY!?" loudly. At the same time. Thank you,Earnest Cavalli, I now have coffee all over my clothes and my desk.
The actual content of the article made more sense. It's saddening that someone would attempt to bring this IP back to unlife while missing the ball so hard on what made LoK amazing, but it makes sense considering the industry.
Of course, we don't know enough about this game yet to be sure that it actual DOES miss what made LoK great - I.E. the great story, the non-stock characters, the amazing voice-acting, the atmosphere and all that. I mean, for all we know it could be that Square-Enix is going to bring us a game with a complex story, great acting and parts that are geared towards co-op or maybe some sort of not-exactly-multiplayer-but-still-not-entirely-single-player bits like Dark Souls... But when you see "Sq-En spin-off-reviving random vampire IP they randomly found in their pockets as a 'non-single player' game" it gets hard not to think "Vampire the Masquerade rip-off", and great as that game was, the mood and aesthetic just doesn't fit with the LoK universe. It's vampires, sure, but it's different vampires. If you want to revive a story-driven game without the original devs, it doesn't inspire confidence.
There's hope that this actual will be a real LoK game, but I doubt it. Especially if Simon "My Voice Causes Orgasms" Tempelman isn't involved. But hopefully it'll be a good game and serve to add to the lore and the universe, without adding any embarrassingly dumb ret-cons (maybe Sarafan Raziel was actual a good guy who was in love with a friendly neighbourhood vampire?). If we're very lucky it might even spark interest in the IP and lead to a revival of the core franchise. But even if it's an abject failure that bombs completely and has Kain being a fluffy, pacifist granddaddy-type character and the Elder God being benevolent and self-sacrificing, so what? It won't detract from the original games and even the ret-cons won't matter since it's basically fanfic. This isn't George Lucas writing Darth Vader as a whiny, cocky douchebag who goes in for loud, passionless "Nooooooo"s. It's just another company writing on an old game. So before saying you'd prefer the game to "Die with dignity", remember that if we'll have a good game that might add to the original lore or even revive the core series, but if we're unlucky we really won't be worse off than if the series had just died outright.
The actual content of the article made more sense. It's saddening that someone would attempt to bring this IP back to unlife while missing the ball so hard on what made LoK amazing, but it makes sense considering the industry.
Of course, we don't know enough about this game yet to be sure that it actual DOES miss what made LoK great - I.E. the great story, the non-stock characters, the amazing voice-acting, the atmosphere and all that. I mean, for all we know it could be that Square-Enix is going to bring us a game with a complex story, great acting and parts that are geared towards co-op or maybe some sort of not-exactly-multiplayer-but-still-not-entirely-single-player bits like Dark Souls... But when you see "Sq-En spin-off-reviving random vampire IP they randomly found in their pockets as a 'non-single player' game" it gets hard not to think "Vampire the Masquerade rip-off", and great as that game was, the mood and aesthetic just doesn't fit with the LoK universe. It's vampires, sure, but it's different vampires. If you want to revive a story-driven game without the original devs, it doesn't inspire confidence.
There's hope that this actual will be a real LoK game, but I doubt it. Especially if Simon "My Voice Causes Orgasms" Tempelman isn't involved. But hopefully it'll be a good game and serve to add to the lore and the universe, without adding any embarrassingly dumb ret-cons (maybe Sarafan Raziel was actual a good guy who was in love with a friendly neighbourhood vampire?). If we're very lucky it might even spark interest in the IP and lead to a revival of the core franchise. But even if it's an abject failure that bombs completely and has Kain being a fluffy, pacifist granddaddy-type character and the Elder God being benevolent and self-sacrificing, so what? It won't detract from the original games and even the ret-cons won't matter since it's basically fanfic. This isn't George Lucas writing Darth Vader as a whiny, cocky douchebag who goes in for loud, passionless "Nooooooo"s. It's just another company writing on an old game. So before saying you'd prefer the game to "Die with dignity", remember that if we'll have a good game that might add to the original lore or even revive the core series, but if we're unlucky we really won't be worse off than if the series had just died outright.
My emotional spectrum shifted from excited to disgusted while reading through this report. Granted, we don't know exactly how the new game is going to end up looking like but Earnest Cavalli isn't exactly painting it up as a positive picture.
Would prefer a single player game, a sequel to Soul Reaver - loved the story and character and game play. If not then a HD re release would be a welcome surprise. Or a collection of Reaver and Kain games.....even selling in on PSN or XBlive would be awesome. So many old games that have been left to rot. Time to re release these.
Tony Jay did the Elder God, right? I suppose if they weren't having Kain or Raziel as a main character they wouldn't need to show the Elder God as we wouldn't be able to see it. I had a thought though. They said it prolly wasn't going to be single-player, or at least shouldn't be thought of as such. A co-op game with Kain and Raziel could be pretty cool. Just trying to look at a possible bright side. That said, you can imagine co-op making the game lose a certain degree of the gravitas it had beforehand.Zipa said:
One, this sucks pretty hard, not everything needs multiplayer. And 2, I wish to god/gods/flying spaghetti monster that we could bottle up Internet rage and use it as an energy source
sigh. Square have some amazing studios under their banner. Too bad that their administration is a bunch of chimps in suits throwing feces at each other.
I mean, sure, if that's the game they want to make, go ahead. I can dig a spinoff any day. Yes, I would rather see a proper sequel, especially since the franchise has been dead for about 8 years now, but if they actually want to make a multiplayer spinoff, I'm all for it.
But I'm willing to bet money that this game is a product of some bollocks market research and a shameless cash-in attempt.
I mean, sure, if that's the game they want to make, go ahead. I can dig a spinoff any day. Yes, I would rather see a proper sequel, especially since the franchise has been dead for about 8 years now, but if they actually want to make a multiplayer spinoff, I'm all for it.
But I'm willing to bet money that this game is a product of some bollocks market research and a shameless cash-in attempt.
I agree that the only way LoK could be good as a multiplayer would be to make it "Dark Souls" reskin with unified difficulty, dark atmosphere, not-exactly-have-other-people-messing-around, and some serious effort also being put into story and characters as well. I don't see it being remotely good as LoL or WoW clone. And I really hope it won't be a shooter, because this would be a joke that isn't even funny.
While I have a tiny-tiny-tiny hope it could be a good spin-off, I don't expect it to be as good as original LoK series even in this case, and if it would be bad spin-off, or, save gods, an incursion into main storyline (without, as I understand it, voices of main characters)... well, it will never be a canon for me then, regardless of what SE would say.
While I have a tiny-tiny-tiny hope it could be a good spin-off, I don't expect it to be as good as original LoK series even in this case, and if it would be bad spin-off, or, save gods, an incursion into main storyline (without, as I understand it, voices of main characters)... well, it will never be a canon for me then, regardless of what SE would say.
....I don't know what to feel. On the one hand, it doesn't sound like the game I would buy...even if it is a LoK game. However, I would be lying if I said I didn't find the idea of maybe having the Soul Reaver Vampire clans fight awesome and interesting. So I'm gonna be holding back my judgement on this one until I see something more concrete.
Or the day when I see a proper remake of Soul Reaver, which will be the day I crown makers of said game as Gods.
Or the day when I see a proper remake of Soul Reaver, which will be the day I crown makers of said game as Gods.
I'm sorry, what?
I was too busy prepping this pile of bricks for Squeenix's back window.
In all seriousness, this is just sad. Legacy of Kain is defined by high-drama epic single-player storytelling in a stylish, gothic, and unique (no elves or dwarves here) fantasy setting.
As a huge LoK fan, I'm glad that the series it getting some attention after all this time, but as multiplayer-based game? How does that even work? How can they possibly keep the limelight on the awesome world and characters that define LoK while operating in a multiplayer setting?
Unless... Oh shit... I bet this is going to be an MMO.
Vampire vs. Hylden as the factions, set during the great war in Nosgoth's distant past.
It could work, but I don't play MMOs...
(slumps off dejected)
I was too busy prepping this pile of bricks for Squeenix's back window.
In all seriousness, this is just sad. Legacy of Kain is defined by high-drama epic single-player storytelling in a stylish, gothic, and unique (no elves or dwarves here) fantasy setting.
As a huge LoK fan, I'm glad that the series it getting some attention after all this time, but as multiplayer-based game? How does that even work? How can they possibly keep the limelight on the awesome world and characters that define LoK while operating in a multiplayer setting?
Unless... Oh shit... I bet this is going to be an MMO.
Vampire vs. Hylden as the factions, set during the great war in Nosgoth's distant past.
It could work, but I don't play MMOs...
(slumps off dejected)
As I looked upon my disdained comrade, I could not form an adequate reply. I simply nodded at him with solemn gaze, silently assuring him that his part to play in the foreboding events ahead would not be played alone. The suffering he would endure would be felt far across Nosgoth, and across the ripples of time itself.Infernai said:
I'll be seriously pissed if they make the next LoK a god damned Multiplayer game. they already pissed me off when they some spokesperson for them said along the lines of "we have yet to exploit the Legacy of Kain franchise..." they should at least hand it to Crystal Dynamics to let them do something different for a change. Ever since Core Design tried to kill off Lara Croft, Crystal have had to churn out Tomb Raider games and in all honesty Lara should have stayed dead after Revelations as none of the PS2 onwards have been any good.
Having had a horrible time with health issues for the past few months I didn't think anything could really make me feel worse than this. I'm glad there are some people that find it possible to have some hope for this game. I can't find anything but a sense of mild anger. It doesn't get anything worse than mild because this just seems to be the way the industry is going. I guess it also makes me sad. Well, I'll keep an eye on this game just to watch how it turns out. Might get some entertainment out of the complete stupidity of it if nothing else.