@Notch and the 'F-bomb'

[Anchupom]

Swearing is good for children. Seriously. Those who can't articulate accurately how they feel are more likely to show signs of physical aggression. (At least in younger ages)
So, swear more and fight less.

 

[4173]

So, uh, what's the problem? An employer asks their employees to comport to certain behavioral standards. Perhaps based on personal values or perhaps as an act of public relations, or both.

This is going on every second everywhere on the planet. Yawn.




Is this just another excuse for group-think backslapping about how evolved and post-modern we all are, and to laugh at the apes who care about manners?


Grow the fuck up.

 

[Yetipumper]

I'm sure the people in the community who are female, disabled or gay don't enjoy it.

And there's your problem. Don't presume to know what offends other people. (for a more erudite comment, look up Stephen Fry bits on youtube.)

Also: In British English swearwords are much more common, deal with it.

Hmmm, I don't think that's a problem but fair does. Funnily enough, I was thinking about Stephen Fry as I wrote the post. His defence of the art of swearing is fucking brilliant. "Deal with it" doesn't really bring much to the discussion. Also: I'm Scottish.

 

[Brutal Peanut]

It was probably Simon - that silly Simon. Always telling Hannah to watch her language and then drops all kinds of F-Bombs all over the place. It was an overreaction. You don't think those kids have heard worse over the internet or television? Or say worse over multiplayer chat, or in forums? Or just to each other when they hang out and break mailboxes with bats, or what-the-hell-ever they do.

I know children/tweens who are left to watch HBO alone, the parents not even batting an eyelash at what they are watching. Most shows on HBO are akin to soft-core porn with violence and curse words aplenty, and then of course them sneaking downstairs or out to the living room to watch whatever comes on after their parents go to sleep. The word 'fuck' being said isn't going to hurt them.

 

[orangeban]

General rule of thumb, don't swear in front of strangers or kids (kids meaning 12ish and under). They might not be cool with it and it isn't worth offending someone.

And yeah, Youtube is hardly a delightful picture of humanity, but censorship of it A) is kinda against the point and B) wouldn't work. Fox News is a delightful example of how cussing filters don't actually work.

 

[JoJo]

Show me a kid who doesn't know the words Fuck, *****, slut, ****, whore or asshole.

Go ahead, I'll wait.

Probably just him trying to save face with his company in case some "Oh god my sensibilities I must sue!" idiots come along or making sure they'll be able to comeback for MineCon next year.

My eight year old sister for one, and before you say "she might just have the presence of mind not to say them in front of you", she has quite the temper and occasionally will (to the rest of family's hilarity) belt off the worst words she knows: "stupid" "baby" "fat" "hairless" in anger at anyone who speaks to her. Also I'd make the point that the kids I worked with in the past didn't use any of those words although admittedly that doesn't mean they definitely didn't know them. I'm not going to get into the argument about whether swearing matters or not since that's subjective and will go no-where but there's your example of a kid who doesn't know those words.

OT: I'm with Notch on this one, there are some things you just don't do and swearing in front of other people's kids is one of them. If it's your own then I disapprove but at the end of the day it's your own choice, however you should respect other parent's choices for how they raise their kids.

 

[Musiclly enhanced]

wait what? kids in the minecraft convention in las vegas? yep probably scared of profanity then

 

[Jumpingbean3]

This is a big fucking deal!

Seriously though. While dropping the F Bomb in front of kids is not very good publicity I think it's an over-reaction to refuse to work with them again. Yeah they made a mistake but at least give them one more chance.

 

[Yetipumper]

Where are the twitter posts etc that show this so-called 'explosion'?

"something of an explosion"- type in 'Notch' and 'yogscast' in the search field of twitter.
Emphasis on 'something'

 

[major_chaos]

so reading this I realized that I had never watched yogscast so I decided to give it a try, and dear god how can anyone stand those obnoxious whiny gibbering morons, let alone subscribe to them?

OT: Notch is over reacting(most of the "kids" there probably had already worse than that), and if he was that concerned about it he should have told everyone beforehand. besides I'v never rely thought of minecraft as a "kids game"

 

[GrandmaFunk]

"no homo"

Didn't know that was homophobic. It's simply the gay version of "that's what she said" only with sexual innuendo of the homoerotic nature.

of course it's homophobic, it's exact meaning is "please don't think i am homosexual despite what i've just said/written".

this not only implies that homosexuality is wrong but also that certain comments/opinions could only be made by a homosexual.

 

[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

I find it odd that he was offended at the yogscast saying the f-word in front of children, when he talked about masturbation and shagging simons mother in a interview he did with them, which will be watched by Thousands of children.

That's what I was thinking. Anyway, this is a bit silly. I can't exactly say that the Yogscast were completely innocent (sorry, but I seemingly don't hate children as much as everyone else on these forums), but banning them from Mine-Con's pretty harsh.

 

[Esotera]

So, what do you think? Are these problems that need to be addressed? Do you think they are acceptable? Are they even there?

It's perfectly fine to swear in my opinion, as long as it's not meant in an offensive way. Most of my sentences involve at least one swear word, but they're used more as a sort of punctuation. Basically, there's a massive difference between:

1. "X is #'@! awesome"
2. "You are a #@2;!"

 

[Yarkaz]

I don't see a problem with his reaction. Minecraft is a pretty kid friendly game, I think that part of its designs was on purpose. Makes sense Notch would want to keep his convention kid friendly too.

Yes people usually hold child friendly conventions at Sin City. Scumbag Notch.

Mmm, yes. I lived in Las Vegas for a couple years, and aside from the strip (a very small part of the city) Las Vegas is mostly inhabited by normal people with normal jobs who occasionally have *gasp of shock!* children.

Believe it or not.

 

[hazabaza1]

Wow, Notch seems like a very Passive Agressive person based on his current twitter posts.
Looking forward to seeing the Yogcast's side of this. Should be funny.

 

[alandavidson]

It's Notch's event, he sets the rules, and Yogscast broke them. He has the right to not work with them again if he doesn't want to, as well as the right to announce it in any manner he wishes.

 

[Dr. Crawver]

I find it odd that he was offended at the yogscast saying the f-word in front of children, when he talked about masturbation and shagging simons mother in a interview he did with them, which will be watched by Thousands of children.

people forget youtube is a 12+ site. It's still pretty young, but most 12 year olds know about that stuff, at least to a lesser degree. At minecon however, there are a lot younger children, and it is a little...riske to use that language so openly when the kids are going to look up to you

 

[JochemDude]

What is this madness?
Two pages and I've not been ninja'd?