@Notch and the 'F-bomb'

[flaming_squirrel]

<quote=Direct from Notch's Twitter>Yogscast repeatedly insulted people, talked behind their backs, refused to cooperate, and acted like total spoiled divas nonstop

They called us "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company", demanded that we pay them to come here (nobody else got paid).


And they claim they're the reason minecraft is big and that we should thank them more than anyone else in the community. They're total dicks


A kid wanted them to sign something I had signed, and they said they'd cross it out and put "fuck you" there instead.

Everyone else in the Minecraft community is all about respecting and caring. They're not. They're an isolated island of egos.

Sounds like Yogscast are acting like gits.

That sounds like complete and utter rubbish, they've been to quite a few big events and have never had any problems. Fail to see why they'd cause a scene at Notch's party without him doing something dickish to antagonise the situation. Also his response lacks any professionalism whatsoever, at this rate it'll just turn into a slagging off match between the two parties.

Oh and on Notch paying them to attend, if he wasnt that set on them being there, he wouldnt have paid in the first place.

 

[The Diabolical Biz]

<quote=Direct from Notch's Twitter>Yogscast repeatedly insulted people, talked behind their backs, refused to cooperate, and acted like total spoiled divas nonstop

They called us "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company", demanded that we pay them to come here (nobody else got paid).


And they claim they're the reason minecraft is big and that we should thank them more than anyone else in the community. They're total dicks


A kid wanted them to sign something I had signed, and they said they'd cross it out and put "fuck you" there instead.

Everyone else in the Minecraft community is all about respecting and caring. They're not. They're an isolated island of egos.

Sounds like Yogscast are acting like gits.

Yeah I was just gonna bring these into it, it's not the F-Bomb, which is one thing, it's acting like entitled pricks.

That's my issue here, swearing's all well and good but it's being wankers to everyone around them that really grinds my gears.

 

[Cenequus]

<quote=Direct from Notch's Twitter>Yogscast repeatedly insulted people, talked behind their backs, refused to cooperate, and acted like total spoiled divas nonstop

They called us "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company", demanded that we pay them to come here (nobody else got paid).


And they claim they're the reason minecraft is big and that we should thank them more than anyone else in the community. They're total dicks


A kid wanted them to sign something I had signed, and they said they'd cross it out and put "fuck you" there instead.

Everyone else in the Minecraft community is all about respecting and caring. They're not. They're an isolated island of egos.

Sounds like Yogscast are acting like gits.

Not gonna say he's telling lies or not but that doesn't sound at all like them.It takes 5 secs to go to youtube and make a search of their stuff and see they're just 2 brits having fun.Sure dry humour is not for everyone but some one here is exagerating alot. This is why I always stayed away from Minecraft,idolizing someone like it happened with Notched could only lead to stuff like this.

Also if it's one thing I hate is people feeling offended on behalf of others.Like really in our society he thinks 14 yrs are saints who would blush at the word fuck? Dunno to me he's making a fool of himself and reveals that after all he's a big douche too.

 

[ExodusFlame]

The thing is as you mentioned your son watches the Yogscast Here is the thing THEY SWEAR ALL THE TIME NOT JUST IN PUBLIC! if your offended by now then you've kind of caught on a bit fucking late and at the age of 9 they will know all of the swear words in the book. So why be offended? you allow your kid to watch them at home where is the difference at a public event hell if its that big a problem think of all the people that watch they're videos on Youtube over 1 million subscribers and only recently is this considered a problem.

Anyways with the Yogscast most of it does not sound like they're sort of behavior at all although one or two things may be misdirected humor some of it hit and miss in 1 case maybe a miss but don't ask me have a look at what Totalbiscut had to say the man who made the Yogscast fan base much much larger than it previously was.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/mkjci/hate_insults_and_threats_are_flooding_in_from/c31oib6

The link is from someone who commented a few posts before me i just thought it needed to be posted again and partly because i thought something else needed to be explained like who Totalbiscuit is if nobody has heard of him and why his comments are more relevant than Anybody's on the matter.

Totalbiscuit is an other British verity gaming commentator/Youtuber who makes many videos featuring games and even talks allot with his fans about issues in gameing and does lets-plays/featurettes of games and is essentially partly the man who made the Yogscast famous in the first place when he did things such as do his series "the Yogscast and Totalbiscut play Magika".

Also i think sometimes Notch needs to be reminded YOU ARE A FUCKING INDIE DEVELOPER! not a AAA gaming company such as the ones trying to sue you such as Bethesda if they were to act like trolls and regular people like you do on most occasions they would lose a giant portion of they're fan base and consumers for pulling the sort of crap you pull sometimes just like anyone else.

Fuckups happen get over it everything is always a bit hit and miss especially when it comes to comedy it varies usually from where people come from as well what may be the funniest joke in Germany might not even get a peep from an american audience or a British audience what is acceptable in the UK might not be in the US.

 

[cgentero]

From what I understand the Yogscast people were being dicks the entire time at MineCon, a person who worked there posted on Reddit they were acting like self entitled brats, it wasn't just the swearing that got Notch upset.

From Notchs Twitter

A kid wanted them to sign something I had signed, and they said they'd cross it out and put "fuck you" there instead.

I'm surprised the kids father didn't punch them for that.

 

[Prof. Monkeypox]

This may seem way off the topic...

What is Yogcast?

. They are 2 British gamers who got famous for their Minecraft series, but started out doing Wow tutorials. They are genuinely pretty funny...( More so that most main-Stream comidians today) Personally I find it hard to believe that they would write "Fuck off" on somebody's autograph... but Hey.

Well they might. Characters yelling "FARK OFF" (because of the accent, see) to children is one of the recurring jokes on their podcast.

 

[gavinstaceyvg]

The Youtube 'community' is one of the deepest cesspools of casual racism, homophobia, sexism and just plain ignorance on the internet.

it really, really isn't. I'm not saying there aren't all of those things on youtube but it really isn't one of the worst. I can think of hundreds of websites that are far worse. In my opinion a huge amount of the youtube community (there's really no need quotation marks there - it is a real community) works for good causes and adds a lot to thousands of different areas. Just like there are disagreeable people on the escapist forums there are on youtube but don't tar them all with one brush. You don't get to do that. No one does.

 

[Melon Hunter]

You know what's really annoyed me now? It's all that muck that Notch threw at the Yogscast on Twitter, and (whether or not it's true) has now put up a tweet that it'll probably all blow over. Make your fucking mind up, Notch, because you've lost a lot of respect from a lot of people by airing your dirty laundry on Twitter and acting like the exact prissy divas he's railing against. I used to think Notch was a pretty cool, laid-back guy, even up to that interview he did the other day with them (in which, I might add, he acted in pretty vulgar manner himself). But now? I see someone who has let his success go to his head, and thinks he can go around passing judgement on all and sundry who don't match up to his own double standards.

 

[Treblaine]

notch and simon and lewis are the quintessential man-child,

Notch, who without any major publisher backing made the hugely successful game Minecraft, making all the code from scratch... is somehow a man child. He is 32 year old, what will YOU have achieved by that age?

PS: before you go off believing the OP, check the source and realise that the OP doesn't know the difference between "general use of cuss words" and "being insulting".

Notch's issue is with them directly insulting people, not general cuss words.

https://twitter.com/#!/NOTCH

"Yogscast repeatedly insulted people, talked behind their backs, refused to cooperate, and acted like total spoiled divas nonstop."

"They called us "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company", demanded that we pay them to come here (nobody else got paid)."

"I'm very sorry about the behavior of the people (clarified as yogscast) we won't work with any more. Celebrity or not, you don't f-bomb kids."

Difference between swearing within earshot of children and swearing AT them! And of course, were they called out on this and asked to apologise, did they still refuse? OP is telling a very warped version of events.

 

[Scizophrenic Llama]

https://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/138716909767102464

"A kid wanted them to sign something I had signed, and they said they'd cross it out and put "fuck you" there instead."

Yeah, I'd say his reaction is pretty warranted. If it was a part of a sketch or something, I'd be less inclined to care, but they defaced the persons' property, who was only asking for them to sign it out of an act of respect.

 

[Treblaine]

Queer, on the other hand has always been pejorative, though arguably the gay community changed that with chants like "we're here, we're queer. Get used to it!"

I thought it was:

"we're here, we're queer, and we don't want any more bears!"

And I agree, if there is going to be any man-lovin' I don't want to see an inch of bodyhair!

I may not be gay, but being a... shall we say, rugged northern lad, I take offense to that remark!

The people have spoken! And these are smarters than the average bears, one of them swiped my pick-er-nick basket!

(I don't even know how I got this far off topic)

 

[The Lugz]

Notch, who without any major publisher backing made the hugely successful game Minecraft, making all the code from scratch... is somehow a man child. He is 32 year old, what will YOU have achieved by that age?

i don't flaunt my talents and call others names those are the actions of a child, and the exact thing that notch does routinely on his twitter
he's openly insulted and attempted to humiliate the developer of the unlimited detail engine for example, because he does not understand it.
and ended up looking dumb when they released a video
he just gets emo and types whatever he is thinking, it's quite pathetic i do wonder if he gets a bit drunk

also, what will i be doing when i'm 32? building increasingly fast and overpowered radio controlled cars and pc's same as always. it's my thing.

don't like?
your problem.
i have hella fun.

 

[Kyle1527]

Okay, so for anyone who hasn't listened to the Yogpod, I advise you listen to it now - because it is the best thing ever. Anyway, in the YogPod Simon and Lewis make THOUSANDS of these sort of offensive jokes...well because they can - and people find that humour funny. You know, they didn't want to get payed - they WERE JOKING like always...it's the yogscast way. So fuck Notch, he said he banged Simons mom and made masturbation jokes on a public YouTube video!!! Fucking hypocrite.

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

This may seem way off the topic...

What is Yogcast?

. They are 2 British gamers who got famous for their Minecraft series, but started out doing Wow tutorials. They are genuinely pretty funny...( More so that most main-Stream comidians today) Personally I find it hard to believe that they would write "Fuck off" on somebody's autograph... but Hey.

Well they might. Characters yelling "FARK OFF" (because of the accent, see) to children is one of the recurring jokes on their podcast.

Oh yeah, I can imagine it now:

"Simon, Simon, can I have an autograph?"
"FARK OFF!"

 

[Treblaine]

Notch, who without any major publisher backing made the hugely successful game Minecraft, making all the code from scratch... is somehow a man child. He is 32 year old, what will YOU have achieved by that age?

i don't flaunt my talents and call others names those are the actions of a child, and the exact thing that notch does routinely on his twitter
he's openly insulted and attempted to humiliate the developer of the unlimited detail engine for example, because he does not understand it.
and ended up looking dumb when they released a video
he just gets emo and types whatever he is thinking, it's quite pathetic i do wonder if he gets a bit drunk

also, what will i be doing when i'm 32? building increasingly fast and overpowered radio controlled cars and pc's same as always. it's my thing.

don't like?
your problem.
i have hella fun.

Oh, so no adult would ever "flaunt their talents"? No adult would ever accept an award for their achievement in their profession?

What names has he called people? Example from his twitter:

"And they claim they're the reason minecraft is big and that we should thank them more than anyone else in the community. They're total dicks"

I'm sorry, but they are "total dicks" for taking credit for the success of someone else's creation and to DEMAND thanks for it, MORE than anyone else. That is very "dickish". And are you saying YOU have NEVER EVER called ANYONE remotely a bad name? Not in your whole adult life. I doubt that. Not even behind their back, under your breath?

Realise I just caught you calling 3 separate people "the quintessential man-child". So is that hypocrisy, denial, or what? It Definitely isn't very mature.

"he's openly insulted and attempted to humiliate"

I don't think you understand the difference between that and "professionally criticise".

"and ended up looking dumb when they released a video"

oh, so whoever these people are didn't have anything to back up their claim and he criticised them daring them to prove him wrong. That's how shit works. The Wright Brothers were widely criticised as bluffers because they kept their flying machine secret for so long (precisely to avoid their design being stolen as they lacked full patent protection). When they finally demonstrated to the public a sustainably controllable flying machine then AND ONLY THEN were they vindicated. They didn't deserve nor earn vindication before then.

I don't know how old you actually are but to describe being forthright with opinions and feelings as "just geting emo" doesn't betray much maturity on your part.

You're building Cool RC Cars and Computers, good for you. Now how is Notch a man-child? Surely you know the difficulty in creation and surely as a mature adult you can relate with him on that level even if you are on the more mechanical side and he is more on the code side. Don't let petty disputes turn you bitter and unreasonable.

Why can't you be mature on this? Why do you have to be so snide against Notch as his colleagues?

 

[stewox]

another example of american stupidity

somebody dropped an F bomb , let's make a revolt.

rather help the OWS and stop wasting your time with this nonsense.

 

[personion]

No, no, I think we've got it wrong here. Notch didn't say the yogscast simply dropped the F-Bomb while some kids were around. Notch said that the yogscast said the F-Bomb TO THE KID. There's a difference between saying it around someone and saying it too someone.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Won't somebody please think of the children? Keep them closeted from stuff they probably already know!

yeah this, anytime something "adult like" or that was supposed to be kept away from kids, usually spread like wildfire amongst us in elementary school, all it takes is that one kid over hearing his parents/siblings say/do it and he instantly knows it and it spreads to everyone else.

hell i remember learning about how to unhook bra's in 5th grade.....ahh the good ole years, where being naive and curious was fun.

 

[Mirror Cage]

Oooh...This is juicy.

This sounds like a failure of communication. My money says that Notch (or whoever was in charge of the planning) never made it clear that there would be children, or rather, that the con was to be kept PG.

Of course, the Yogscast could have erred on the side of caution and kept their language 'clean'. They can be just as funny without it: I've seen them do it.

I'm going to withhold any judgement until the yogscast touch down and post their response. If everything that Notch says is true, then those two have some extreme persona dissonance.

 

[The Lugz]

Why can't you be mature on this? Why do you have to be so snide against Notch as his colleagues?

this is basically my point, they want to be entertainers and professional businessmen;
yet they act like childeren and squabble over silly details.

i cannot even imagine a world full of people that act that way in any place of social influence
( with the possible exception of fox news )

how would you react to gabe newell starting a press conference about half-life 3 and inviting leading members of the computing, gaming and technology community and then watch them troll each-other for 30 minutes and then walk away and tweet about how arrogant greedy and pathetic each other are
and how they talk behind your back about your millions?

it's simply not how a polite society acts. why cant you see it for what it is ? if anyone else did it you'd probably laugh or cry

also, what is this cry about age? as if it matters.
for the record i'm 25 but why do you care? if someone has a point or not is not co-dependant on the amount of years spent on the planet
it takes about half a second to generate a thought, you're a little behind the curve past there
if you feel you need to be a certain age to have any valid opinion
it's likely because you have nothing on which to base an argument so you make things up
well, nobody is impressed

i can only assume you're a fan boy so wrapped up in denial and cant accept that your role model is less than perfect, stop putting people on pedestals
and man up.

and as far as i'm concerned this conversation is over because you cant construct an enlightened post that does not resort to petty cajoling, and will soon violate forum rules
so good day.