Notch in No Hurry to Bring Minecraft to Steam

[WanderingFool]

Real answer: All the PC gamers already have it so what would be the point?

Those (like me) who want to play Minecraft on the PC but cant because their credit card wont work on the Minecraft site (still cant figure out why.)

As much as I enjoy Minecraft on the 360, it is a neutered game in comparison to the PC version. Plus, I doubt Tekkit will be arriving on the 360 anytime soon. So I would love to play Minecraft on PC. But as I said, My only barrior is some kind of malfunction with buying the game through the MC site. And as there is no other (legitimate) way to get it, Im stuck. Unless someone wishes to either gift me a code or something...

WELL...technically, if you already bought a copy of it off of the XBLA, you could just say...get another version, I mean, you already got one legitimately, what's the harm in say, paying your local pirates a visit?

Well, the problem with those pirates are jerks, you try to talk to them and all they say is ARRRRRR!!!

 

[idarkphoenixi]

There doesn't really seem to be much basis for this other than simply spite. Yes, Steam has a large chunk of digital sales but there IS a reason for that y'know?

Plus, most people already have Minecraft by now, this would increase sales that would never have otherwise happened. And it's not like it's even going to be exclusive to Steam.

 

[Epona]

Yes EA refused to change their current business model to adhere to Steam's new DLC policy. So Valve pulled the offending games. Also how is EA cheating Valve out of the cut when EA was selling THEIR content directly to the customer it was being sent to them from THEIR servers not Valves. As I said, it was greed on both sides, but everyone on the Valve fan boy wagon doesnt understand that their precious company isn't out for money as well. In short EA wasn't cheating anyone out of anything they just refused to change their system and lose more money.

I would not say it's *exactly* cheating...but it seems...like something not good. I mean, Steam was selling their base games through its service...EA selling stuff that adds directly on top of it seems wrong to me. Not exactly cheating, but wrong. But opinions are a dime a dozen, so I guess it doesn't matter. Either way, both companies got their way - EA got to sell their DLC straight by virtue of not putting games that have it on Steam's service...also convenient for them, since it added a few exclusives - for a while - to their own service, Origin...and Steam enforced their policy.

O RLY.

Please point me to these DRM-free games.

I don't know if it's by choice, but he's correct - a few games - not all that many, I don't think - are free of Steam's DRM. If you launch some games straight through the .exe, instead of say, launching it via Steam, it will not use Steam, (hours won't be counted, you won't be reported as playing it, doesn't require verification, etc). Fable: the Lost Chapters, for example, is one - only one I can think of at the moment, as it's the only one I've recently played and noticed it happening. I know there are at least a few more, as I've noticed it for others, but I can't remember what titles specifically by virtue of having 159 games on Steam.

Not likely, publishers aren't likely to give up that kind of control. If something like that were in the Steam license agreement, we would have heard about it by now from people like Notch or EA.

I admit, it doesn't seem likely, but Valve has claimed multiple times that they'd do it in the case they'd ever be shut down...enough for me to wonder.

I've never seen that claim, do you have a link?

 

[BartyMae]

I've never seen that claim, do you have a link?

Please clarify on what exactly. I said a bit in that post, haha.

 

[Epona]

I've never seen that claim, do you have a link?

Please clarify on what exactly. I said a bit in that post, haha.

A link to Valve claiming they would patch out the DRM is Steam went under.

 

[fwiffo]

If Valve goes belly up, they will release a patch to the Steam client that will allow you to play all of your games forever.

That won't happen for legal reasons. Steam is DRM and publishers release their games on Steam with that DRM in mind. If Steam went under and they removed the DRM, that would likely violate some agreements with publishers.

Put it another way, releasing a patch that removes the DRM would be the same thing pirates do. Valve can't do it legally either.

Got a source for that? I've just never heard that side of the story before.

 

[BartyMae]

I've never seen that claim, do you have a link?

Please clarify on what exactly. I said a bit in that post, haha.

A link to Valve claiming they would patch out the DRM is Steam went under.

This is the best I could find (with a casual Google search):

http://web.archive.org/web/20100605062932/http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10642189&postcount=28

Free grains of salt with every link.

Funnily enough, I could not find anything. I could swear I've seen several news stories where Valve touts the whole "we'll disable authentication and you'll be able to play anything you downloaded any time you want", but I've been unable to find a thing. Strange.

 

[Epona]

I've never seen that claim, do you have a link?

Please clarify on what exactly. I said a bit in that post, haha.

A link to Valve claiming they would patch out the DRM is Steam went under.

This is the best I could find (with a casual Google search):

http://web.archive.org/web/20100605062932/http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10642189&postcount=28

Free grains of salt with every link.

Pretty weak stuff there. If Steam went under, Valve could just ignore that. There has been no public announcement of such.

Got a source for that? I've just never heard that side of the story before.

A source for what? That publishers love DRM and would never allow another company to remove the DRM from their games?

No source, do I really need one?

 

[Akytalusia]

good for him. minecraft doesn't require support, and as long as mojang's independent, they're free to do whatever they want with it. despite any secular motivations behind the decision, it's [good to see people who are able to successfully retain this stance] from an artistic position.

 

[axlryder]

while delivering possibly the most horribly incomplete videogame of the last 20 years

I don't like minecraft, I think it's ugly and boring as shit, but if you want to qualify "broken" as unfinished then I think minecraft doesn't even come close to top honors in terms of unfinishedness. Yes, that's a word.

 

[The Lunatic]

That's nice Notch, now let's get back to finishing the game, eh?


It absolutely baffles me that there's no Modding API for the game.

The modders have already added more content to minecraft than Notch or Jeb could ever have dreamed of, rather than throwing a hissy and ditching the idea when they laugh at you for wanting to charge for a modding API, how about you actually help the only people who still seem to be working on the game that got you here in the first place.