Notch Unveils His New Game

[Maxman3002]

Subscription fee? Jeez this guy has completely sold out yet people still worship the damn guy like he's the Neo of gaming.

Looking on the website, it does say that only the multiplayer has fees, if you want to play it single player you can and there will only be a one time fee to buy the game.

Hope that makes it less of a sell out.

So going from the cheap and extremely casual and yet fun Minecraft to a complex and from the sounds of it hardcore space MMO that you have to pay a subscription for is the next logical step from Notch's point of view?

Am I missing something here?

Personally I found minecraft a bit boring, could never really get into it. Im guessing his aim here is to hit the other end of the spectrum so the people who never got into minecraft might find something they like with this one.

It actually looks like fun, maybe a slightly less complicated version of EVE with some interesting features

 

[Meight08]

Subscription fee? Jeez this guy has completely sold out yet people still worship the damn guy like he's the Neo of gaming.

There is only a sub if you want to play the multiplayer single is just b2p
Which i can understand a game like this could require alot of money to keep the servers running and make new money.

 

[thiosk]

I'm going to call it zero ecstasy (zero x ten c) until an easier to discuss name comes out.

I am a huge supporter of space games about space. A spacecraft game, essentially what spore promised us and didn't deliver, would be delightful.

Combine minecraft with elements of civ, sim city, and master of orion, and you have me a happy man.

However, this does not seem to be... that.

 

[Somebloke]

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The mathematician in me is intrigued just by the title alone. Though it still reduces down to just plain '0' it is still really really big zero!

Or maybe not the usual magnitude of ten, with a preceeding factor; a prefix of: "0x" is a common way to denote hexadecimal numbers, so sixteen to the power of the speed of light? That's a fairly large number... :9

 

[hawk533]

If my basic grade mathematical knowledge is correct 0x10^c (on the icon next to c is superscript, so "power of" as in 4^2 = 4x4 = 16)

Actually, as pointed out above, 0x is commonly used to indicate hexadecimal. So 0x10 is 16. The time frame for the games puts the game 2^48 years in the future or 16^12 years in the future. So I think the allusion in the title is that humanity was supposed to be asleep for 0x10^c years. c was probably supposed to be something like 1 to 3, but due to a programming bug, 12 was used instead.

I'm going to pronounce it "One-Zero to the C" until I hear otherwise.

 

[Maxman3002]

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I think the idea behind this one is the online world is constantly occouring if your online or not, time is meant to pass and things change whilst your offline and its all going to be within the main servers rather than individuals servers that minecraft works on.

Basicly hes making a MMO with a single player option.

Ive never had any love for Notch and like I said in the previous post, I never liked minecraft, but if hes releasing a MMO with a single player option free on it then thats better than any other MMO developers I know.

Also I hate the fact you have to pay for an MMO when you first get it (With the big ones) and then again to actually play it. At least this way I can buy the game and play it without subscription

 

[Meight08]

Subscription fee? Jeez this guy has completely sold out yet people still worship the damn guy like he's the Neo of gaming.

There is only a sub if you want to play the multiplayer single is just b2p
Which i can understand a game like this could require alot of money to keep the servers running and make new money.

So why does Minecraft multiplayer not have a subscription fee?

Heck, subscription are slowly proving to be out of date business models anyway. Why is Guild Wars 2 a one time buy?

1:
Because Minecraft relies on user run servers.
This uses dedicated servers.WHICH COST ALOT OF MONEY.
Hell a 32 player 1 gb ram server already cost 15 dollars a month in maintenance and electricity. imagine ones made for millions of players,Yikes those are big electricity bills.
This is an mmo in all but names.
2:what god written law says subscriptions will always be 13 dollars?
It could be 50 cent so shut up.

 

[glenbruton]

So much hate for what is the barest of details. Shame On you internet trolls!

 

[Somebloke]

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The time frame for the games puts the game 2^48 years in the future or 16^12 years in the future. So I think the allusion in the title is that humanity was supposed to be asleep for 0x10^c years. c was probably supposed to be something like 1 to 3, but due to a programming bug, 12 was used instead.
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Sounds reasonable. Code accidently written to take the contents of the C register for the exponent, rather than a constant intended by the specsheet writer, maybe? :9

 

[Meight08]

Subscription fee? Jeez this guy has completely sold out yet people still worship the damn guy like he's the Neo of gaming.

There is only a sub if you want to play the multiplayer single is just b2p
Which i can understand a game like this could require alot of money to keep the servers running and make new money.

So why does Minecraft multiplayer not have a subscription fee?

Heck, subscription are slowly proving to be out of date business models anyway. Why is Guild Wars 2 a one time buy?

1:
Because Minecraft relies on user run servers.
This uses dedicated servers.WHICH COST ALOT OF MONEY.
Hell a 32 player 1 gb ram server already cost 15 dollars a month in maintenance and electricity. imagine ones made for millions of players,Yikes those are big electricity bills.
This is an mmo in all but names.
2:what god written law says subscriptions will always be 13 dollars?
It could be 50 cent so shut up.

1. This example will probably be way overused but I will use it again until someone disapproves of it.

Guild Wars 2

2. If you can find me a MMO game that has a subscription fee of less then $10 dollars per month, you would have a point.

1:
Guild wars 2 has servers that are almost unconnected each being a different server shard.


Eve online the closest comparison to this game with 360:000 users.
HAS THE BIGGEST SUPERCOMPUTER USED FOR GAMING IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.
They use cutting edge IBM technology and they still crash and lag.
It is impossible to run a fucking supercomputer without having a monthly subscription.
And this game could be even fucking bigger!

2:Runescape cost 8 euro's.
Most publishers just know they can get away with 13 dollars and refuse to lower the price.
There is room between f2p and and 13 dollars.
Like 5 dollars or 1 maybe.

 

[Noswad]

Sounds cool, but I wonder, will us simple folk who have no clue about programming at all be able to play it?. I don't think this will be the success minecraft was, it just doesn't sound like its going to has the same widespread appeal.

 

[koroem]

Who wants to bet that Minecraft was a fluke and that Notch's next game won't be nearly as good or as popular?

I'll reserve judgment, but I'm highly sceptical.

Me. I honestly hope this game fails pretty hard (not in a malicious way) because I'm tired of all the undue praise this guy gets. He made one game and everyone hangs on his nuts like he is a genius. He got lucky. I'm sure his next few games will absolutely prove that once his "new game" novelty has worn off his dedicated fanboys. I don't hate the guy, I have no reason to, so don't read that the wrong way. If he can repeat, or threepeat, then I'll throw the guy some respect.

 

[lacktheknack]

Subscription fee? Jeez this guy has completely sold out yet people still worship the damn guy like he's the Neo of gaming.

There is only a sub if you want to play the multiplayer single is just b2p
Which i can understand a game like this could require alot of money to keep the servers running and make new money.

So why does Minecraft multiplayer not have a subscription fee?

Heck, subscription are slowly proving to be out of date business models anyway. Why is Guild Wars 2 a one time buy?

Because Minecraft multiplayer is based on player-run servers.

And let's compare:

F2P/Subscription based (World of Warcraft, Everquest, Runescape) vs. Microtransaction F2P (Maple Story, Audition, LOTRO) vs. Purchase-Once (Guild Wars 2, Team Fortress 2) vs. Truly F2P/Donation based (Myst Online). Guess which ones are doing the best?

(WITHOUT a giant mega-store owned by the developers to assist.)

 

[Weaver]

I just don't do subscription fees.

 

[Robert Ewing]

EURRNGGHHH.

I'm getting bored of Minecraft (Finally... Sort of... Until the next update) And Cobalt never did anything for me. It's also most likely Scrolls won't either. But this looks worth my special addition throwin' wads of cash! I can't wait!

I loved EVE, the only thing stopping me from playing it was the harsh pay cheque I'd have to fork over every so often. Hopefully this will contend!

 

[BehattedWanderer]

So...it's something like Eve Online? in 16 Bit?

I'm gonna go ahead and bail on that one. That just seems like way too many spreadsheets for my enjoyment.

Nifty title, though. I wonder if it's a result of the Scrolls issue, so they came up with a name no one would ever confuse anything else with.

 

[Treblaine]

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The mathematician in me is intrigued just by the title alone. Though it still reduces down to just plain '0' it is still really really big zero!

Or maybe not the usual magnitude of ten, with a preceeding factor; a prefix of: "0x" is a common way to denote hexadecimal numbers, so sixteen to the power of the speed of light? That's a fairly large number... :9

If my basic grade mathematical knowledge is correct 0x10^c (on the icon next to c is superscript, so "power of" as in 4^2 = 4x4 = 16)

Actually, as pointed out above, 0x is commonly used to indicate hexadecimal. So 0x10 is 16. The time frame for the games puts the game 2^48 years in the future or 16^12 years in the future. So I think the allusion in the title is that humanity was supposed to be asleep for 0x10^c years. c was probably supposed to be something like 1 to 3, but due to a programming bug, 12 was used instead.

I'm going to pronounce it "One-Zero to the C" until I hear otherwise.

I think it is at least a double meaning as " x10^X " is such a well established term in mathematics and is such a succinct way of quantifying extremely large numbers, and that IS what a space game is supposed to be about, the extremely large scale. Maybe notch is just being cute having an extremely large magnitude of an infitesimally small number.

But then we get into deep maths, is zero not an impossible number not just in the practical sense but the mathematical sense. Just as 0.9999-recurring is mathematically identical to 1. Would that also mean that 0 = 0.000000.. (infinite zeroes)..0001 ?

One reason not to think it's hexadecimal is how the C is in superscript position EXACTLY where it would be for magnitude and NOT where it should be for hexadecimal. If we are just to consider "10" as hexadecimal, while it's not contradictory, what is the point in using a hexadecimal number that is identical to it's decimal counterpart as the number "10" is?

 

[CardinalPiggles]

This might be a little bit forward thinking here, but where does he go after this game is finished? Does he make a Doctor Who style game?

 

[Griffolion]

You can play games in a game using the in game computer system. If you can play Minecraft on it, then I'm sold.

 

[SpAc3man]

This is from the official website: In 1988, a brand new deep sleep cell was released, compatible with all popular 16 bit computers. Unfortunately, it used big endian, whereas the DCPU-16 specifications called for little endian. This led to a severe bug in the included drivers, causing a requested sleep of 0x0000 0000 0000 0001 years to last for 0x0001 0000 0000 0000 years.

0x10^c is the same as 0x0001 0000 0000 0000 in big endian notation. In hexadecimal c = 12. It has nothing to do with the speed of light in this context. It is not about lots of "0"s. 0x is the prefix for a hexadecimal number.