So? This doesn't bother me, this is my only life so I'm living it without thoughts of the afterlife.
Nothing you do is ever going to matter
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pfft i got put on probation for a post that small.bulldogftw said:
anyway who cares about the world. just make your own little world matter to you and make sure one other person remembers your name after you die and thats enough.
with 6 billion going on 7 billion people, how many peoples names do you know off the top of your head. 100-1000 maybe. thats a very small % of the world. So unless you are that awesome at something that you are in the top 0.0000001 of the worlds population you will not be remembered or even known and that shouldnt make you feel any less worth while. your just like everyone else.
Whatever. I just want to enjoy my life and live comfortably, and I don't really care if I manage to change world suring that course.
I don't see why I shouldn't try, or why others shouldn't. You do what you want, man, live your life, have fun and stop worrying.
I don't see why I shouldn't try, or why others shouldn't. You do what you want, man, live your life, have fun and stop worrying.
There are 3 types, though each carrying a moderate amount of sub groups, of people. Those who are just bound to succeed and usually do. Those who succeed because they supported the succeeder and triumph by his success, and those who dream big but always fall short.
Its up to you to decide where your final destination is and how your going to get there. The unfortunate part is, that decision alone is something a lot of people overlook and forget to answer until its too late and they've already made all the wrong commitments.
Everything you do WILL matter.... for the span of your life and longer because everything you do will affect you and so long as you are a person, it matters. for every one person, theres another twenty linked to him/her through some connection. every decision you make affects them and so force like a ripple in the water.
You matter, I matter, my neighbor who seems to enjoy mowing the lawn in the middle of winter matters.
Humans exist to matter
Its up to you to decide where your final destination is and how your going to get there. The unfortunate part is, that decision alone is something a lot of people overlook and forget to answer until its too late and they've already made all the wrong commitments.
Everything you do WILL matter.... for the span of your life and longer because everything you do will affect you and so long as you are a person, it matters. for every one person, theres another twenty linked to him/her through some connection. every decision you make affects them and so force like a ripple in the water.
You matter, I matter, my neighbor who seems to enjoy mowing the lawn in the middle of winter matters.
Humans exist to matter
I dont know about you, but when I make my Shindlers list/citizen kane/fight club-esque master piece, I'm having my name stuck on the box. Also I'd like to think that by the time I'm old enough to achieve that, we'll have accepted video games as a legitimate form of media instead of the catalyst for the apocalypse
As a lot of people have pointed out; everything you do matters to someone, even if it is only yourself. If you have self respect then that should be the opinion that matters most.
As far as what a persons achievements mean to the world at large, that is as much a case of timing and conviction as it is talent. Film stars, musicians, directors, artists, even politicians, all become footnotes in history, with only a very small few actually becoming history themselves. James Cameron may be the most famous director in the world but he is just part of history; Orson Welles IS history. Madonna - part of history; Elvis - history.
In some cases talent isn't even an issue. Nelson Mandela has cemented his place as a historical figure through nothing more than a clear belief in what was unjust, and nothing less than the conviction to stand up for those beliefs regardless the cost.
As far as what a persons achievements mean to the world at large, that is as much a case of timing and conviction as it is talent. Film stars, musicians, directors, artists, even politicians, all become footnotes in history, with only a very small few actually becoming history themselves. James Cameron may be the most famous director in the world but he is just part of history; Orson Welles IS history. Madonna - part of history; Elvis - history.
In some cases talent isn't even an issue. Nelson Mandela has cemented his place as a historical figure through nothing more than a clear belief in what was unjust, and nothing less than the conviction to stand up for those beliefs regardless the cost.
I know. Therefore my goal in life is to enjoy myself and make the lives of those I care about that little bit better in any way I can.
Also, just because I'll probably not be remember in 500 years time, that's no reason for me to act like I won't be. As long as I can raise my kids right and make sure they don't repeat my mistakes, I won't need to be remembered, since my teachings will live on, if I taught them right.
Plus there'll always be that picture of that night you got your drunk on at that party on the internet.
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Also, just because I'll probably not be remember in 500 years time, that's no reason for me to act like I won't be. As long as I can raise my kids right and make sure they don't repeat my mistakes, I won't need to be remembered, since my teachings will live on, if I taught them right.
Plus there'll always be that picture of that night you got your drunk on at that party on the internet.
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Even if that's true... what I do matters to me.
I don't think judging yourself, or others' worth, based on how many wikipedia articles they have- or how many history textbooks they're in- is a very wise way to go about life.
I don't think about whether or not I'll be remembered a hundred years down the line; I think about how I'll affect others, and myself, today.
I don't think judging yourself, or others' worth, based on how many wikipedia articles they have- or how many history textbooks they're in- is a very wise way to go about life.
I don't think about whether or not I'll be remembered a hundred years down the line; I think about how I'll affect others, and myself, today.
My brother, nothing I ever do will ever matter one bit in the grand scheme of things when compared with the changes brought on by masses of people working the world over on things I may or may not agree with or even know about.
In fact, I'm going to jump off a building right now, we all should!
hahahaha kidding, man. Nobody should care that the world doesn't give a damn, that'd be hypocritical. Do I spend all my day worrying about all the poor sods having existential crises or that accomplished feats I'll never know about?
HELL NO BRO.
I'm going to sip my coffee now and forget all my worries.
In fact, I'm going to jump off a building right now, we all should!
hahahaha kidding, man. Nobody should care that the world doesn't give a damn, that'd be hypocritical. Do I spend all my day worrying about all the poor sods having existential crises or that accomplished feats I'll never know about?
HELL NO BRO.
I'm going to sip my coffee now and forget all my worries.
On various other threads I've posted walls of test on this subject: it's a true statement, that we're not really anything in the long run.
We get by by making arbitrary rules and arbitrary goals, and then playing our own games, whatever they may be.
The trick is to realise this, comprehend it, and say: "Fuck this, I'm going to matter to me".
We get by by making arbitrary rules and arbitrary goals, and then playing our own games, whatever they may be.
The trick is to realise this, comprehend it, and say: "Fuck this, I'm going to matter to me".
Why are there so many miserable posts on this forum? Like 'Whats the point in life?', 'Do gays go to hell?', 'Do you ever get thoughts about death?', 'My nipples make me sad'. Maybe it would be more helpful to take these questions to a counselor.
Also the title of this post is just factually wrong. Its more correct to say that you're not likely to do anything that matters. Even that is highly debatable given how interdependant human society is on every level. So lets say: You're unlikely to do anything of unusual significance in life. If you can't live with that, go do charity work. Go to Africa. Help out at an animal refuge. Enter politics. Its not that hard to make a difference. Most people just don't bother.
Also the title of this post is just factually wrong. Its more correct to say that you're not likely to do anything that matters. Even that is highly debatable given how interdependant human society is on every level. So lets say: You're unlikely to do anything of unusual significance in life. If you can't live with that, go do charity work. Go to Africa. Help out at an animal refuge. Enter politics. Its not that hard to make a difference. Most people just don't bother.
Some people do succeed, look at Christopher Paolini, or that guy who joined the Philadelphia eagles and now has a movie. People change the world every day, it's just that the number of people who do is much less than the number of people who don't. That said, even the most average person in the world leaves an impact on the world by changing the people around him. And because those people go and change the people they meet, it is an ever expanding impact that eventually reaches the entire world. Still, it's not the great huge earth-shattering change that most hope for, but it's something.samonix said:
The most famous of the ancients were always haunted by the thought of not leaving their mark; Caesar lamenting that he was older than Alexander and hadn't done nearly as much, for example.
I'm not too worried about it. I have a 200 year goal. Do something that people other than my descendents will care about still in 2300, no matter what it is but afterwards not worry. I'm not going to pretend that I'm going to echo for generations, but I will reverberate a little.
I'm not too worried about it. I have a 200 year goal. Do something that people other than my descendents will care about still in 2300, no matter what it is but afterwards not worry. I'm not going to pretend that I'm going to echo for generations, but I will reverberate a little.
That's not necessarily true. The future is uncertain. No one knows what's going to happen. I'm sure no one who's currently a historical great was born knowing they were going to be so.
I doubt Columbus was born knowing he would go down in history for discovering a new continent (for Europe anyway), or Edison was born knowing that one day he'd invent the light bulb and be forever remembered for it. These people no doubt had the same insecurities about whether their lives meant anything as we do.
Whether or not your going become great and remembered for all time (or as long as humanity's around anyway) is a matter of chance and effort. If you sit on your ass and do nothing, then you can bet your ass you're not going to amount to anything and be forgotten; but if you get off your ass and do things then there's a much greater chance that you'll do something worthy of being remembered.
I doubt Columbus was born knowing he would go down in history for discovering a new continent (for Europe anyway), or Edison was born knowing that one day he'd invent the light bulb and be forever remembered for it. These people no doubt had the same insecurities about whether their lives meant anything as we do.
Whether or not your going become great and remembered for all time (or as long as humanity's around anyway) is a matter of chance and effort. If you sit on your ass and do nothing, then you can bet your ass you're not going to amount to anything and be forgotten; but if you get off your ass and do things then there's a much greater chance that you'll do something worthy of being remembered.
Interactionist plus butterfly effect theory equals I'm perfectly ok.
To break that down, I subscribe to the belief that society is created through the interactions between members, that includes assigning meaning to symbols (which is larger than most people think, as symbols also includes words themselves. Notice how the definitions of certain words have changed over time), modification of norms and values (ex. tattoos are now much more widely accepted in today's society when it would have caused you to be ostracized), and more.
In addition I also believe in a butterfly effect of actions that works in conjunction to this system so that a single action you do or fail to do will affect countless others in society through series of interactions or lack of interactions. These may cancel out others actions, or help amplify them, or even change the direction of the result from the action. Why? Because interacting with others will inevitably effect their thoughts, emotions, and schedule, which will influence their future interactions.
In other words, while I won't stand out, I, just like you, am an integral part of current society, for if I interact differently, the future would be different. Maybe it will only be a small change, or maybe it will have an unimaginable impact on society many years from now. It's impossible to tell, as the impact can only be measured at the end of time.
Hell, my actions' results don't stop after humans. Take for example the theory of global warming and imagine that I'm contributing to it. This actually helps speeds along a proposed cycle in which would bring in a new ice age, which would end up reshaping the world with the glaciers, providing new bodies of water and mountains, which will change the lives of whatever lives on to see them.
All this boils down to one thing: there's no telling what your actions will produce, but something will happen because of you, like it or not. There's no point worrying about though, as no one can tell you if it is right or wrong.
To break that down, I subscribe to the belief that society is created through the interactions between members, that includes assigning meaning to symbols (which is larger than most people think, as symbols also includes words themselves. Notice how the definitions of certain words have changed over time), modification of norms and values (ex. tattoos are now much more widely accepted in today's society when it would have caused you to be ostracized), and more.
In addition I also believe in a butterfly effect of actions that works in conjunction to this system so that a single action you do or fail to do will affect countless others in society through series of interactions or lack of interactions. These may cancel out others actions, or help amplify them, or even change the direction of the result from the action. Why? Because interacting with others will inevitably effect their thoughts, emotions, and schedule, which will influence their future interactions.
In other words, while I won't stand out, I, just like you, am an integral part of current society, for if I interact differently, the future would be different. Maybe it will only be a small change, or maybe it will have an unimaginable impact on society many years from now. It's impossible to tell, as the impact can only be measured at the end of time.
Hell, my actions' results don't stop after humans. Take for example the theory of global warming and imagine that I'm contributing to it. This actually helps speeds along a proposed cycle in which would bring in a new ice age, which would end up reshaping the world with the glaciers, providing new bodies of water and mountains, which will change the lives of whatever lives on to see them.
All this boils down to one thing: there's no telling what your actions will produce, but something will happen because of you, like it or not. There's no point worrying about though, as no one can tell you if it is right or wrong.
that's pretty much my life mantra,
It goes both ways also, if I do bad things it doesn't matter, if I do good things it doesn't matter.
at the end of the day, you die and your PoV ends with that.
It goes both ways also, if I do bad things it doesn't matter, if I do good things it doesn't matter.
at the end of the day, you die and your PoV ends with that.
Keep thinking that but when my name is permanently remembered by a book, game or movie I'll say "Hell Yeah."
If you let that thought get to you, it will become fact not fiction. Not trying is worse than doing nothing.
Hell just posting this up affects something and that could make a chain-reaction of awesome!
If you let that thought get to you, it will become fact not fiction. Not trying is worse than doing nothing.
Damn straight, everything affects everything. The other day there was a thread about how if Hitler hadn't done what he had done, some of us wouldn't even be alive.drummodino said:Heck every single action effects someone or something somehow. Even if it's not that meaningful everyone has some impact. Honestly though I don't really care about that, the only thing that really matters is if you enjoy life - which I do without giving a damn about making a difference
Hell just posting this up affects something and that could make a chain-reaction of awesome!