HK_01 said:
gmaverick019 said:
HK_01 said:
It's funny how many people support Obsidian even after all these buggy games.
aside from bugs, they make amazing games imo, and so do alot of other people think that.
now i hate bugs, i really do, i usually get them by the truckloads for every developer, but if a game is solid, i can deal with the bugs, or get a mod or patch to fix it.
i have yet to deal with any game breaking bugs since kotor 2, which literally it broke the game. even then, i found a way around it and i beat the game a good 30 times now with the same trick.
personally i would rather have them keep creating the amazing games they do make with the bugs, they offer up great features and generally solid stories/characters , and id rather have that than rather deal with mediocre same rehashed crap like bethesda and a few other companies keep offering up. (yes i understand that new vegas is on the same engine and alot of the same textures, but overall their games haven't changed one bit over the years)
Oookay, I might be willing to accept that
some Obsidian games are quite good, very good in the case of New Vegas, but I am not willing to accept you hurling mud at Bethesda! Honestly, Morrowing, Oblivion and Fallout 3 are the same to you? Apart from having similiar basic mechanics, they are
very different. And that's just their really "big" games. You could also add games like Wet, (okay, that is apparently crap (I've never played it), but you can hardly say it's the same as their other games) Call of Cthulu, etc.
I actually think it's funny that you're accusing Bethesda of all companies of rehashing the same "crap" all over again when there's people like EA who re-release the same games every year with minor tweaks and a new number at the end of the title. Or the Call of Duty series, also hardly changes with each installment.
On a side note, calling Bethesda games crap while defending KotOR 2 really tempts me to flame, but I won't. Just know that there's differing opinions on the quality of KotOR 2, with or without bugs and parts missing from the game.
Zannah said:
So me and my boyfriend have played the game for what, together 40 hours or so by now. Between the two of us, we've experienced one glitch, one soundbug, and a staggering three crashes. But then, our games are also free of the massive bug that is steam. Coincidence?
(Oh, the endings we had were still awful though)
So that means that the bugs so many other players experience don't exist, because you haven't had them? And how come that Steam doesn't screw up all other games then? Seriously, how does Steam affect a game's programming to make glitches appear in-game?
Anyway, I'm waiting for the GOTY edition, hopefully all or at least most of the bugs will be fixed by then.
morrowind = more expansive and different than oblivion but gameplay is utter crap
oblivion = much better combat but not as noteworthy on land and environment design, horrible voice actors and horrible story/character designs
fallout 3 = shallowed down guns version of oblivion, with a couple notable voice actors who made little difference to the actual story or died early on. once again horrible story/character designs.
now those are very general sums, and i'll say i did play through and did enjoy them each at least once, they really didn't require anything special to make and i've honestly played alot better from other companies. thats why i "flung a bit of dirt" at them.
so through all that, on the same engine, there are very very notable similarities, in which if you connected morrowind and oblivion the only difference you would truly notice is the gameplay if you were a melee user. otherwise it was just down to personal taste.
fallout new vegas is what fallout 3 was made out to be and what it should have been, and dont even try to mention bugs because i spent literally a week just making the game even work beyond the menu, so there were plenty of game breaking bugs, so trying to throw that out there against new vegas wouldn't do anything.
i have played wet, and i agree it is crap, call of cthulu just wasn't my thing personally, so ill give it a pass on personal taste.
i did say that kotor 2 was a game breaker, it literally was a broken game.
however, what was done, had only improved and drastically made it much better than the first one = lightsaber/force styles, make your party members into jedi if you proceed through the story correctly with them, much more varied weaponry, much more modifications and building of modifications and weapons, better use of the force powers, and personally (and much like others i have come across) liked the quests alot better.
once again ill reiterate, the game was broken, the ending was broken (if you can even call it that) and it just dropped off on that, however , if you want to compare it to the first, it was a complete upgrade in nearly every area otherwise and the modding community has fixed it enough to make it playable and enjoyable.
now i wont sit here and argue over that, nor defend it anymore, as its down to personal taste, but judging by your avatar you enjoyed at least the first kotor so ill leave it at that.
i would say half of EA's releases are sports games or social based, in which yearly versions are expected, and they will be that way till the world explodes, its simple, sells decent enough, and is a annual contribution. i hardly buy there games because i know what to expect out of it and so does everyone else, so they dont bug me so much on that part. now to get onto the shooter side of things, im not a fan of some of the call of duties, they have changed a bit here and there but thus far they haven't done anything really that different beyond making the game broken or twitch based, which aren't my kind of games. so i can agree to those points also.
Zannah said:
So me and my boyfriend have played the game for what, together 40 hours or so by now. Between the two of us, we've experienced one glitch, one soundbug, and a staggering three crashes. But then, our games are also free of the massive bug that is steam. Coincidence?
(Oh, the endings we had were still awful though)
troll. that has nothing to do with it, i got it off steam and haven't had a single bug yet beyond a giant radscorpion getting stuck in a rock. and thats it. so take your troll talk back under the bridge.
