"Ok, Boomer"
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Hard disagree. I didn't mention tumblr because people are queer. I mention it because instead of there being straight white men on tumblr, there are Celtic cishet demisexual dragonkin, and those phrases describe the same person.evilthecat said:
Absolutely "gamers" are snowflakes. Look at the tvtropes description, its mostly about players in RPGs insisting that their character should be a unique combination of things that's never existed before. When people online make comments about how a game is too easy because it wasn't made for "gamers" like them, go ahead and snowflake them. Even better example, anime people. You know, the type of person who think their encyclopedic knowledge of Bleach makes them extra unique and people interested in western media instead just don't understand the complexities of anime. No hate on the genre, I genuinely think One Piece is an epic that eclipses most of the classics, but that's not a statement on my character or personality. Like, I'm not going to draw a dividing line between me and the other 3 people in this room right now because I might spend a Saturday playing Magic while they watch college football. That doesn't make me special.
That's zoomers.CaitSeith said:It shows to the World that Millennials can be very efficient. Just two words and suddenly I'm out of popcorn...
You have deliberately missed the part where I said it has to be an unreasonable ask.evilthecat said:
Not attending a BBQ because it reminds a vet of charred human flesh is not unreasonable. Its not snowflake.
Snowflake would be 'No one can have a BBQ, period, regardless if I'm there or not' That's the unreasonable part. Because at any given point someone is eating BBQ, so at any given point said Vet could be flashbacking in burning humans, so we have to remove all BBQ everywhere so they never get triggered.
Hate to break it to you but there are exceptions to every rule. There are good boomers like Bernie & Warren, there are good Republicans like Republicans who support climate change being man made, there are even good billionaires like Bill Gates who have saved millions of life's in countries in the global south.
I think the main problem of our century is universal selfishness, and institutional racism, and that's hard to pin down on any one group, even I, and many progressives have some it in implicit biases.
We are all guilty of it to some degree.
I think the main problem of our century is universal selfishness, and institutional racism, and that's hard to pin down on any one group, even I, and many progressives have some it in implicit biases.
We are all guilty of it to some degree.
So what?tstorm823 said:
The culture of tumblr is uniquely influenced by its popularity with young queer people.
There's this thing which happens if you're in any way gender non-conforming, and it happens way too often to be a coincidence. Cishet people, even cishet people who don't know you or have never met you, will just come up to you and demand to know what you are. These are generally not people who are in any way interested, or seeking a real understanding, they're doing it purely because they know you can't provide a satisfactory answer, and that makes them feel powerful.
One of the ways of taking back that power is to answer the question for ourselves. For example, I'm a pansexual gender-fluid non-binary femme. Those are all words that accurately describe what I am. I did not choose the words because I wanted to be different from ordinary people, the words describe the criteria on which I have been made to feel different from "self-identified" normal people. After all, unlike self-identified normal people, I don't go around actively shaming others for not being like me.
Because tumblr developed a culture of advocacy around queer identities, it is true that there are people on tumblr who had adopted the language of queer inclusion to describe things that are either trivial or actively harmful. That's always the thin veneer of an excuse every time snowflakes or helicopters come out. The simple fact is that I don't trust people who take issue with harmless expressions of identity simply because they're not "normal" to be able to draw any kind of line.
Also, if you need a special word to describe absolutely tiny internet communities who you have absolutely no reason to interact with, remind me who is actually preoccupied with identity.
Never described as such though. Weird.tstorm823 said:
Then why did you feel the need to say it?tstorm823 said:
Gee, it's almost like talking about yourself is a thing people are allowed to do and doesn't make you inherently self-absorbed or imply you have some need to be special. It's almost like that's just what a normal person does.
You're being facaetious, I presume, but you're demonstrating exactly what troubles me about this phrase. It underlines this modern tribalistic way of thinking that says certain categories of people are automatically unworthy of being taken seriously or afforded legitimacy. The censorious aspect of identity politics, basically. And, sure, I expect you're itching to cite ten examples of times in history that disservice was inflicted on minorities; but ultimately that just prompts the question, how can you justify engaging in the same behaviours you condemn?Silentpony said:
It's all good fun and games, and sticks and stones, until all the silly irrelevant boomers vote Trump into office.
Inb4 "OK Boomer", you hack
Except.. it literally doesn't happen.Silentpony said:
Like, you think someone who is conscious that they are triggered by fries is going to walk into a restaurant which serves fries of their own volition and not be prepared for that?
I mean, it's hypothetically possible that you could trigger someone in a normal situation, like going up to talk to them at a conference. Having actually seen that situation play out, it's very likely that you would not even notice. But let's say you did, let's say you go to introduce yourself to someone and they "freak out", as you put it.
What unreasonable demand has been made on you?
To be fair more people did vote for Hilary than Trump. Boomers are going the way of the dodo and the world will straight up be a better place when its all over. Boomers are terrible. They are a blight. They fucked up this world, and this nation, and now that they're dying out they're all pissy millennials don't want to be harassed at work, or want to live on a burning planet and want a living wage.Batou667 said:
Modern? Are you sure?Batou667 said:
I think it's more that modernity has become very good at snappy, catchy terms to describes things that have long existed to some extent.
The interesting thing is increasingly that one of the main social schisms that has emerged in Western societies is that of age. Chiefly because society has moved in a way that appears to have increasingly worked for the interests of the older generation (more specifically the wealthier end of them, anyway) at the expense of the younger.
It's especially fun since this started off on BBQ.evilthecat said:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qvgkmd/massive-bbq-planned-next-to-home-of-vegan-cilla-carden-who-sued-neighbors-over-meat-smells
A vegan woman tried to sue her neighbors for BBQing in their own yards. So yes, that does happen. I won't say it's common or anything, but there are people who try to force their thoughts on others, and it's not limited to any class of people.
It's kinda hilarious to see them crying foul because of something like this after all the mainstream bad faith criticism and repeated jokes towards millennials. It's funny how people are calling this divisive, and how weird any of this wasn't until the bully got pushed back.
And was duly defeated in court. So, that worked exactly as intended. And ironically if they had gone ahead with that massive BBQ then they'd actually be up for legal issues too because its a deliberate act of malice with no purpose other than to cause someone harm and distress, however intangible it would have been.crimson5pheonix said:
And I agree, her demand was unreasonable as fuck. And a judge fuckin' told her so.
Indeed, but it is also precisely the situation evilthecat says 'literally doesn't happen'. Someone who was so offended by BBQs, that they tried to tell other people not to have BBQs ever.Gordon_4 said:
I think evilthecat's claim concerned a universal proscription on BBQing, not a vegan complaining about someone next door. It is not unreasonable to ask a neighbor to make a special accommodation for you; it can be unreasonable to expect that they must comply.crimson5pheonix said:
I'm mostly going to bite my tongue here, I don't want to sit here are just attack you personally. But if someone tells me they're a woman (cis or trans), she's trying to tell me about herself, the way she thinks and feels. If someone tell me that they are gay, they're telling me how they feel. You gave me 4 different adjectives to work with, and I know nothing at all about the way you think or feel from any of them. Cause like, that isn't a list of your characteristics. It is, as you say, "the words describe the criteria on which you have been made to feel different." I don't find that to be a harmless expression of identity, rather I think that's deliberately combative.evilthecat said:
So, I assume that the solution then is to have some form of government body determining which cases get heard. Whatever they think is frivolous gets quashed.crimson5pheonix said:
I'm sure that is going to work out well.