On Nazis
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I've searched for unit 731 and Stalin. Really sick shit.AssButt said:
The good thing about the nazis its that they are the ultimate bad example. They took hate, racism, and dictatorship to so new horrible levels, that people started to rethink their own values. World War I was, in a nut shell, a bunch of mofos who each thought that their country or race were the best and for that had the right to conquer the world.
Aside from sheer laziness I think the reason why we have so many Nazi shooter video games (as well as a gazillion Hollywood WWII movies) is that it undoubtedly makes the Americans the good guys. As well it gives the video game player free reign to go on a mass killing spree guilt free (for that matter Nazis are only second to zombies), you can bath yourself in Nazi entrails and no one would consider it strange or disgusting because well Nazis are bad m'kay.
As for Saboteur's boobie DLC, well that was just a silly marketing gimmick. Funny though that despite all the effort to make the era the game is suppose to represent period correct that all the burlesque dancers look like modern day skinny ass strippers with boob jobs. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't women of 40's Paris have hips?
As for Saboteur's boobie DLC, well that was just a silly marketing gimmick. Funny though that despite all the effort to make the era the game is suppose to represent period correct that all the burlesque dancers look like modern day skinny ass strippers with boob jobs. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't women of 40's Paris have hips?
On the contrary, my head is placed quite squarely upon my shoulders. You claimed that Hellsing was a god example of Nazis being an interesting set of villains. That is a statement on the writing. The writing is poor. The Nazis in Hellsing are just as one-dimensional as they are anywhere else. The main villain's motivation is "Muahahaha evil is fun, let's be mean to everybody!"crimsonshrouds said:
Now, I will admit, you mentioned Hellsing and I immediately jumped to the conclusion that you are a raving moron, as EVERYONE I know that likes Hellsing is. You, on the other hand, Seem to be of acceptable intelligence and I apologize for lumping you into the group with which I normally associate Hellsing fans. As such, I lost track of my orignial point and went on about the terrible vampire cartoon in question.
We have a difference in taste, sir, and until such time as we can duel each other with nohz or chain or britvah, we shall simply have to disagree.
Little problem there, the V2s produced by Germany were the start of them, and Project Paperclip lead almost directly to The Manhattan Project.Grahav said:
Personally, the Nazi's are less evil when you compare them to say...
Stalin's Communist Regime which killed more people the Hitler would have if he'd killed every Jewish human in Europe..Had more work camps then Hitler, work camps where we still have no idea how the inhabitants die. One of the most spread out Intelligence agencies in the World, if you wanted someone dead they were dead.
As for them being half baked story elements, I could not agree more. Honestly it's getting annoying having to wade through all the Nazi's that eat babies and rape puppies, and kill old grandmas with babies tied to puppies.
Stalin's Communist Regime which killed more people the Hitler would have if he'd killed every Jewish human in Europe..Had more work camps then Hitler, work camps where we still have no idea how the inhabitants die. One of the most spread out Intelligence agencies in the World, if you wanted someone dead they were dead.
As for them being half baked story elements, I could not agree more. Honestly it's getting annoying having to wade through all the Nazi's that eat babies and rape puppies, and kill old grandmas with babies tied to puppies.
This and everything discussing hitler being evil should be titled "Hitler, he's evil because he lost!" because really that's the truth. When compared to someone who did similarly horrible things (Alexander the Great) Hitler's not that bad, except he didnt succeed in what he set out to do, so history is written by the guys he was trying to kill, painting him as evil. Just think, Alexander the Great, wiped out whole cities women and children included simply because they didn't move away from a couple horrible people living there, he invaded and decimated the leadership of over 100 nations, he even oppressed his people, making his generals kiss his hand, a thing considered horribly humiliating to the Macedonians. Inspight of all that, he's Alexander the Great, why? Because, Alexander succeeded in what he set out to do, and his people got to write the history on it.
Hitler wasn't the worst person to have ever lived, he just landed on the wrong side of the win/loss equation.
Hitler wasn't the worst person to have ever lived, he just landed on the wrong side of the win/loss equation.
Are you seriously trying to claim that all the European imperialists were trying to do was spread their idea of civilization to "less-advanced" places, rather than abuse people who were not able to fight back very well in order to take their resources? Sure, spreading civilization had a part in imperialism, but it was rather minor compared to the main goal of "take shit." In fact, one might think it was actually used more as a way to legitimize imperialism than to help other civilizations advance ("advance", of course, being seen in a 19th century European point of view).
Of course there are no video games where you play as a Native American killing those evil invading white European settlers in what is now the U.S.A. and Canada. However I do believe there are a few "western" video games where you can blow away Indians (Native Americans). History (and video games) is written by the victors.
I agree with absolutely every post on this thread, even the ones I disagree with.
Nazis are overdone, and they're an easy escape. We are in the middle of a postmodernist revolution in which the hero is dead, the antihero is rising, morality is gray, and evil looks good. There's no character less realistic than the one that does evil for evil's sake. Even being evil for money's or power's sake is a better choice.
But what about the Fascists? They were the perfect JRPG villains: extremelly evil, flamboyantly well-dressed and completely incompetent. I want more games with Fascists.
Nazis are overdone, and they're an easy escape. We are in the middle of a postmodernist revolution in which the hero is dead, the antihero is rising, morality is gray, and evil looks good. There's no character less realistic than the one that does evil for evil's sake. Even being evil for money's or power's sake is a better choice.
But what about the Fascists? They were the perfect JRPG villains: extremelly evil, flamboyantly well-dressed and completely incompetent. I want more games with Fascists.
"The food at McDonalds is pretty bad"
I know, right! Why is everyone always so eager to eat there?
and on a related note, yeah theres always two sides to one story, but rather than trying to see someone elses side, it's much easier prejudge.
and Nazi have gotten rather Cliche
I know, right! Why is everyone always so eager to eat there?
and on a related note, yeah theres always two sides to one story, but rather than trying to see someone elses side, it's much easier prejudge.
and Nazi have gotten rather Cliche
I like the thought behind the DLC there. But how is getting DLC any different to an adult going and buying something at a shop? Granted there's the whole credit card thing which makes it much harder for the kiddies, but if they include a free voucher for it then it's the same as the shop clerk not recognising if someone is a minor.
"the modern-day United States gets away with two, one, all three an irresponsible lack of support from the liberal media"
Hear those helicopter noises over your house man ? Thats your taxi cab to Guantanamo calling. Send us a postcard you commie bastard!!
Hear those helicopter noises over your house man ? Thats your taxi cab to Guantanamo calling. Send us a postcard you commie bastard!!
Spot on.... Back then some leaders were smart enough to look at the map and realise they had a limited amount of time to grab as much real estate as possible then try and hold onto it. The 18th and 19th century were just then first 20 mins of most RTS's, now we are in the turtle down phase, you know what comes next.SuperMse said:
wondering about a german soldier's family and if he really follows Hitler or just loves his country is all very nice but it doesn't change the fact that National Socialist Germany was intent on, and did, slaughter millions upon millions of people, most countries can afford the luxury to evolve into a better society (step by step like the US after the civil rights movement, its still far from perfect but it improved without millions dying) but Nazi Germany was like a house of termites and had to go. Besides modern Germany isn't half-bad, I'm Jewish and heading there this summer, plus my cousin is living in Heidelberg with her two twins fathered by a German man who is really an outstanding fellow.