Pachter: "Nintendo Is Doomed"

[AzrealMaximillion]

Nintendo has been in business in the games industry for well over, what, 25 years? I think they'll be fine.

Sega has been in the business for 46 years. Look at them now...

Yes Nintendo is doing well now, this is the first time they've seen leading success in 3 console generations, long term saying Nintendo is doomed is a stretch, but they will not be as successful as they are now with home consoles at least. Handheld wise the iPhone/iPod touch is Nintendo's major competitor and are quickly catching up in sales. I personally think Nintendo's third party support (or lack there of) will hurt them long run.

 

[Choppaduel]

I would definitely agree with Iwata about needing less of the bullshit social games and have the devs focus on making real games!

me too, its too bad that theres hundreds of millions of people playing those game who don't even think about it.

 

[Royas]

The fact that it's Pachter saying that Nintendo is doomed, tells me to buy stock in Nintendo immediately, as it is going to prosper for all eternity.

 

[KaiusCormere]

Besides, if that statement about success right after a disappointment were true then the Gamecube would have put them on top because the N64 was also a disappointment.

I thought the Gameboy Advanced was released between those two consoles.

The Game Boy series has always been successful but on the console side of things Nintendo had two bad generations back to back before the Wii put them back on top. Thing is, in the handheld area, they have always been on top.

Maybe I'm from some crazy alternate universe, but the N64 was a great console with a strong library of great games. Whoever says it was a failure? Compared to what? The PS1? PS1 was good, but it wasn't blowing the N64 away. It had better RPGs, N64 had better action. The Xbox wasn't out yet. Now the Sega Dreamcast was a pretty epic failure.

 

[subtlefuge]

It's all idle talk. The combined forces of Zynga and EA can't even begin to grasp how big of a force that Nintendo is in the industry.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Well technically nothing last forever so everyone is doomed eventually but somehow I don't see Nintendo going down and the world of gaming post-Nintendo happening in the very near future. In the next decade or so... maybe. Still, the idea that low-cost social games will hurt the industry is like saying small scale painters selling their products locally are going to hurt the entire art world.

...Doomed? Nintendo?

He might as well say China will have a fair government by noon tommorow and the Moon is infact a Death Star.

*Goes outside to look at moon*
...wait... that's no moon!

 

[Twilight_guy]

Well technically nothing last forever so everyone is doomed eventually but somehow I don't see Nintendo going down and the world of gaming post-Nintendo happening in the very near future. In the next decade or so... maybe. Still, the idea that low-cost social games will hurt the industry is like saying small scale painters selling their products locally are going to hurt the entire art world.

...Doomed? Nintendo?

He might as well say China will have a fair government by noon tommorow and the Moon is infact a Death Star.

*Goes outside to look at moon*
...wait... that's no moon!

..it's a space station...LOL

Anyway, the thing to remember here is that here in the US the industry did crash in 1983 and it was because of crappy, low quality games and consumers lost confidence. It can happen again and IMO social games are both crappy and low quality cash ins. Farmville is a low quality, crappy version of Harvest Moon, for example.

Not to burst your bubble, but the economic, social, and political environment of games has changed. Its now a billion dollar industry and a form of media consumed by millions of people. That's a long ways from where it was in 1983 and I don't think it can crash the same way.

 

[paketep]

Great, more bandwidth wasted with Pachter's BS.

What is worse, Iwata is completely right about social games. You can do quality social games, but quality social games is not what 200-300 million people are playing. They are not wrong (it it EA in the wrong), they just have way too much time in their jobs.

And I expected better from Brian Reynolds. From Civ2, Alpha Centauri and Rise of Nations to Frontierville?. Please... I hope the checks are big, because his talent is completely wasted.

 

[Azure Knight-Zeo]

If anyone's doomed it's Sony and Microsoft. What will happen after their "hardcore" FPS demographic grows up and moves on? Nintendo on the other hand, with their games where anyone can jump in and have fun, will continue to survive.

 

[Nitroklop]

Nintendo is doomed? Haha Pachter, good one.

Wait, your serious...??

Someone please give him his Dayquil.

 

[Ewyx]

Worst case scenario Nintendo uses their own IP for mobile games. Productivity plummets, and they get rich... again.

 

[Ekonk]

Almost happened before, bub.


Iwata's starting to sound like Ken Kutaragi when the PS3 was announced. We saw how that turned out.

I know, basically the reason of what I posted

you just can't truly kill Nintendo XD

How do you kill that which is already dead?

 

[teh_Canape]

How do you kill that which is already dead?

Quake 3, Cadavre

yes, I remember XD

idk, but more than being a zombie, Nintendo is a resurrection =P

 

[griffinmills]

Man, I read four pages of this and nobody has said what this Patcher is. Isn't he Rob Courdreys character on The Office? Duh, he's an idiot!

But seriously what teh is a Patcher, Michael?

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

The Game Boy series has always been successful but on the console side of things Nintendo had two bad generations back to back before the Wii put them back on top. Thing is, in the handheld area, they have always been on top.

I have never really counted handhelds and consoles as seperate divisions, although they clearly are. But I didnt think the N64 was a failure, it did gives games like Goldeneye 64 and Perfect Dark.

 

[BrunDeign]

I think people are just misinterpreting Mr. Iwata. I think he's saying that too many of these social games is going to choke the market, making it harder for the better games to succeed or get noticed. All of these social games are lowering the overall quality of the games industry. And people don't think that a lack of high quality titles will hurt the industry? Get your heads checked people, high quality titles are the only reason the game industry is around.

 

[satorisatya]

Hey guys, did you know that Nintendo is doomed?

I have come to the conclusion that there is only one consistency in the game industry, and it is this: Nintendo is doomed.

No matter what Nintendo?s profits are, no matter what the currency exchange rate is, no matter whether Nintendo is winning in the market or not, only one conclusion is permissible: Nintendo is doomed.

If the sky is blue, if water is wet, if birds sing, then, by all means, Nintendo is doomed.

If you say, "Nintendo is not doomed", you are a fanboy, a viral marketer, one who wishes to upset the applecart ridden by glorious analysts.

I, myself, wish for at least some variety.

One can only hear "Nintendo is doomed" over and over and become bored. Perhaps they ought to switch it around. Maybe twist it to "Doomed is Nintendo?" just for kicks. But alas, I ask too much.

Nintendo was doomed in 2005 ( http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_1/6-The-Contrarian ) so it ought to be doomed today.

Doom-Doom-Dickity-Doom!

 

[D Moness]

Nintendo was doomed in 2005 ( http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_1/6-The-Contrarian ) so it ought to be doomed today.

Doom-Doom-Dickity-Doom!

Fun bit of reading. Specially this bit

That's why the Sony PSP is going to win. Publishers understand it: powerful 3D, familiar controls, absolutely zero innovation. That's how they like it. They can take Ghost Recon and slap it out for the PSP. Why not? It isn't fundamentally different from a PS2 or an Xbox; it's just portable.

Well always easy when looking back at things.
I will like nintendo until the day they do go down. Though i do not think it will be anytime soon. Specially now with the 3ds they will keep the reign on the handheld at least.

 

[marurder]

I think the comments are meant to spurn Nintendo to do some more innovation and forward thinking actions. Hopefully this will translate into some new franchises and deaths of some of the older ones.

 

[Syntax Error]

patcher is an idiot, we all know this

He's paid to "analyze", "read trends" and state the obvious. I'd be an idiot too if I get paid for that.

I agree with the man about Social Gaming being the harbinger of destruction. A "game" should at least have some skill involved. What they make are massive clickfests (I'm looking at you Zynga).

Offtopic: If last year is any indication, I'll wait at my nuke shelter when March Madness officially starts.