Pachter: "Nintendo Is Doomed"

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scottxxxx667 said:
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sub 5hour battery life...
Sorry for quoting from page 1 but I need to clear that bit up as I actually have a 3DS now.

Battery life was only less than 5 hours for me (3 hours 30 mins) when I played with full brightness with constant wifi and 3d turned on at all times playing SSFIV3D. The full brightness setting is freaking blinding too. Brightness down to the lowest setting though I got around 5 and a half hours on wifi with 3d and 8 hours without 3d or wifi on the middle setting.

In short the PR we got was worst case scenario which just means that Nintendo PR sucks when getting the message across.
 

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Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!

Here goes!

"It is I, clairvoyant gypsy Pachter! Analyst Fanboy Extraordinaire! And I have a warning for Nintendo! In the long term, they are doomed! Doomed! Never mind the fact that they've been going for over 25 years, have made more money than God, Jesus and JK Rowling combined, and have beaten off many a competitor, weathered the storms and consistantly re-invented themselves to remain the most dominant, the most important and the most iconic console manufacturer and game developer in history; I say that it'll happen, so it must be true! I'm a professional troll! You people listen to me! I have my own show on GameTrailers! Why do you all make fun of me!?

And you can expect "quality humour" like that on every new Pachter story from me! Seriously though, can we please just ignore the man? Morons like him are like the grown children who put their fingers in plug sockets, they just want to see how people will react.
 

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I predict Pachter will says something that pisses off the gaming community again with 5 years. Make it 10. I want to be close.
 

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..great.. more grandstanding and strange insinuations along with quotes out of context. Awesome.

What's interesting about this is that Iwata doesn't want to compete with social interconnected games on multiple platforms - but on closed platforms for a limited market. That's what Apple is doing, and that's what Nintendo is steering harder and harder towards. They've obviously never done anything outside their own platform - but simply categorically dropping the idea of running DS games as applets on smartphones, or expanding them to web-browser games.. It's interesting that Nintendo would declare that direction so clearly.

Meanwhile, this is the opposite of what Sony is doing with their handheld. It's still typically geared on interconnectivity between their own closed platforms, of course. And no doubt the idiots with the money are going to scuttle any sort of real attempt to integrate services across the different platforms (say, video-services they offer internally, or while offering a platform that covers several devices for external services like Netflix, etc). Same with games - having interfaces on game-devices that are interchangeable, as well as a platform with common interfaces, is going to allow branching out to new market-segments. And get games and digital entertainment into the hands of more people, and different people than we have right now.

So that Nintendo is cutting that off - just categorically stating that their entire "from 6 to 60 years" audience isn't going to extend to social gaming on the internet, or across devices - that's the news here. Pachter may or may not be hinting to this, I guess. But he's only ever on target by accident, so who knows..
 

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manythings said:
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Haaaa, what an idiot.
They've sold 5 times as many DS's than there are Canadians.
Doomed my ass.
Not if he's right in 2015. Just because the DS(etc.) is the shit now doesn't mean nintendo are fuckwit proof, plenty of companies have ruined themselves before with willful stupidity.
Nintendo almost bit the big one with the Gamecube, and the Virtual Boy before it (thanks to Lisa Foiles for sharing that). Nintendo aren't immune to big mistakes, but if history is any indicator then the product that follows any disappointment will immediately put Nintendo at the top of the hill again.
 

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"Long-term, Nintendo is doomed," he said of the company's fight for the handheld market against iOS devices

Pachter didn't say nintendo was going die only lose grip on the handheld market to Apple

Sometimes I really do believe that nobody reads anything below the title

Other than that Iwata is puzzling it was casual internet flash/java games that inspired the Wii's direction in the first place, you people have a strange idea of history if you think Nintendo Wii predates PopCap Games
 

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Man, that would be a great dream wouldn't it... Nintendo dying... sweet. :) I hope they get killed off atleast!
 

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Besides, if that statement about success right after a disappointment were true then the Gamecube would have put them on top because the N64 was also a disappointment.
I thought the Gameboy Advanced was released between those two consoles.
 

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Nintendo is always doomed according to some people, including that clown Pachter. With the 3DS releasing this year they have no worries
 

GeorgW

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I agree with Nintendo, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a bad buissness move. Like it or not, apple is winning.
 

BlindMessiah94

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So if he made the comments at GDC "this week", why does the link to those comments lead to an article written in May 2010? I'm confused.
 

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Trust me, Apple can barely do anything against them. Their games are so terrible and try to suck as much money from people as possible. The reason why it's so popular is because of casual gamers, who need a phone and probably won't buy a DS.
 

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The only Wii game that Nintendo's put out that's genuinely lacking in quality or could be considered "bad", (besides Other M, but at least Team Ninja TRIED, it wasn't like they just didn't care) was Wii Music.

All the shovelware on the Wii pretty much amounts to third parties looking at Wii Sports and Wii Fit, assuming that Nintendo put minimal effort into it just because its not a graphically intense, in depth adventure, and then assign their third string teams to cobble together a "Wii (noun/verb)" series wannabe. Then they start complaining when their game sells poorly and blame Nintendo for "dominating the market" with their own games.

I think Miyamoto actually said something to the effect of "Don't assume our Mii based games are just rubbish we slapped together. We put our top teams into those games, third parties have to do the same if you want to sell well.".

That aside, "Nintendo is doomed" is pretty much par for the course whenever Nintendo's on the verge of their greatest success yet.
 

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As long as Metroid, Mario and Zelda exist, the company will never die. Their games have a unique taste that other games cannot match or copy. To delve further into this, Nintendo is always the innovator, while the others follow in their footsteps.
Kinect and Move would never have happened without Nintendo, never.

That being said, I don't know if I agree with their statement that the market is shifting towards the more casual games while the big titles don't get attention. Mostly because they rarely make non-casual games anymore if at all. Donkey Kong was the only one in recent memory that I remember destroying me over and over again.
 

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Well since nintendo has been around since literally the beginning of the business, I think it's safe to say they'll be fine.

This guy, though, seems like a tool.
 

Tiswas

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Nintendo is dying with these lack of pre-orders for 3DS. DYING!

They'll die even more with release of Pokemon Black and White.