Pakistan Bans Facebook Over "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day"

[RatRace123]

Some idiots going around forcing others to conform to their beliefs. It shouldn't matter what people do, you're religion is not the right one for everyone, no one's is. It's all subjective, but this isn't even really a religious thing, this is about some self enititlement crap that these asses are pushing on everybody.

I support draw Mohammed day.

 

[JaredXE]

As one of those 115,000 fans who actually drew a picture of Mohammed, I say bring it on Pakistan and you other bitchy muslims. Here in the western world, and America especially, we have Freedom of Speach and Expression. Now, unless my expression causes you PHYSICAL HARM, you can ***** all you want but I don't have to do shit to accomodate you. Go ahead and threaten death, I support the rights of any person to say what they want to whomever they want. However, if you act on it, as you crazy extremist muslims tend to do, well then you are commiting an actual crime against an actual person, not a mythic figure that can take care of himself. And that is a big no no, which means you are going to burn in hell, if it actually exists.

...Right. So because you exercised your right to freedom of speech, you violated the religious rights of someone else? Extremist Muslims may have threatened violence but the more peaceful Muslims believe that it is a sin to draw a picture. That's just stupid. Seriously. You're a hypocrite.

The fact you did something that started in South Park says so much about you. This just strengthens my argument that South Park is stupid, out-dated and not funny.

What religious rights? Freedom to worship who and how they want? Well in America you have that, as long as you aren't physically harming someone. But as someone said before, sacrilege isn't a criminal offense in the West. I don't give exaltations to Mohammed, I don't worship that faith, or any faith for that matter. So someone else's idea of sins does NOT APPLY to me in any way, I am not subject to their whims, and they can whine all they want. Yeah, it's purposful antagonizing, but it's also a remark on the idiocy of Comedy Central's censorship and kowtowing to religious extremists. I don't care if muslims think it's a sin, their religious rights have no basis to stop my right to free speech and expression.

South Park was very funny and relevant in pointing this out. Why do muslims get special treatment? Because of the extremists that kill people. If more Christians threatened to blow up people other than doctors for mocking their god, then you'd see a lot more censoring of shows like South Park when they make fun of Christianity.

 

[InsanityRequiem]

And the attack against the Trade Center Towers was an attack against our way of live by Muslim Extremists. The US's history with the Middle East is shorter than every other country. We never invaded except in early 2000 against Osama Bin Laden. Our invasion of Afghanistan was because of his unprovoked Extremist Jihadist attack against our way of life and our belief system.

Muslims can believe what they want. If they get pissed off that people don't follow their rules, their strictures, about depicting Mohammad, that, in essence is their problem in the end. If they don't want us to do it, go India's way and ask nicely like a civilized country. Not Crusade Era/Witch Trail Era times where slaughtering hundreds is acceptable.

"Hey. We don't like this. Can you not do it, please?" Will get you a much better response compared to: "Violate our laws when you are not legally bonded to them and we will cut off your heads!"

 

[OneKlicKill]

Well, the page is ignorant and retarded and personally, I think it should be removed. Idiots should not be tolerated.

So people who stand for free speach and freedom of press are "idiots and should not be tolerated"? I can only assume you are muslum or some other rediculous religous extremist who atempts to impose your views on others. These brave people brought opposition to muslum extremist who needed to be reminded that they can belive what they want. Don't attempt to convice the world that they are correct in their views by threatening death to all who oppose them. They brought this upon them selves with the death threats, hopefully isolation from major internet sites will make them realize there foolishness. And if not at least I will no longer have to deal with them online...

 

[dreadedcandiru99]

People are so quick to jump on the "freedom of speech" gimmick while completely neglecting the perspectives of anyone who might take offense from it.

Two points:

(1) There is no such thing as the inalienable right to never have your feelings hurt.

(2) I dispute the notion that freedom of speech is a "gimmick." It's in the First Amendment for a reason, you know.

 

[chaos order]

Well, the page is ignorant and retarded and personally, I think it should be removed. Idiots should not be tolerated.

So people who stand for free speach and freedom of press are "idiots and should not be tolerated"? I can only assume you are muslum or some other rediculous religous extremist who atempts to impose your views on others. These brave people brought opposition to muslum extremist who needed to be reminded that they can belive what they want. Don't attempt to convice the world that they are correct in their views by threatening death to all who oppose them. They brought this upon them selves with the death threats, hopefully isolation from major internet sites will make them realize there foolishness. And if not at least I will no longer have to deal with them online...

you make these people sound liker hereos even though they are complete dicks. although you may think religion is "ridiculous" but the majority of the world does not. this may be a message against muslim extremism but its also an insult to muslims in general. This pretty much makes everyone who has participated on that page somewhat of a douche. especially since they know they can do this without reprimand. this isnt "brave as you call it, its simply a page to spread hate and ignorance. AKA trolling

 

[CaseySmith]

Islam is a messed up path anyway, whole bunch of do as I say, or I kill you!

As opposed to do as i say otherwise after you die i will torture you forever.

Or the do as the law says or be sent to jail

The first is direct intentional harm to someone other than yourself.

Second is a self-induced mentality.

Third; most laws are against the harm of another.


I like the third better. =D


But hey, nothing will be done about the Muslim religion, because the PC people point the finger at every given opportunity; disregarding the intolerances the religion brings, as a dismissable stereotype. If you research about the Islamic faith, and follow the 2,500 years of islamic based conflicts - that are still present and persistant to this day, you begin to see that a lot that goes on is dreadful.

You can't be tolerant of something that promotes intolerance; it's self-defeating. IE: Sharia Law being injected into european countries, not making headlines because of the fear of the PC crowd. Sharia Law is not something any sane person would strive for.

One other thing people don't seem to understand is that, yes, these followers of Islam do infact read the Qur'an, and at least partly abide by it. Otherwise they're not Muslim. And are thus promoting what the Qur'an teaches in some manner. Yes there are different interpretations of the Qu'ran, but they usually don't stray too far away from each other.


The "do as I say, or I kill you!" as mentioned above is no exaggeration, there are many other intolerant and repressive teachings within this book.


If in doubt about what I say, have a good look around the internet; there's many reports all over the world, more notably in the UK, France and Germany, of which the Islamic faith being used as a tool to repress government authority.


As long as it's still perceived as the norm to grant political and social immunity to groups with the intention of protecting the individual, this will continue.

 

[Miumaru]

Maybe they want me to be pro kicking their asses.
Its this kind of stuff that I would be more for going in and changing them. I dont think every place needs democracy, but every human deserves equality.

 

[OneKlicKill]

Well, the page is ignorant and retarded and personally, I think it should be removed. Idiots should not be tolerated.

So people who stand for free speach and freedom of press are "idiots and should not be tolerated"? I can only assume you are muslum or some other rediculous religous extremist who atempts to impose your views on others. These brave people brought opposition to muslum extremist who needed to be reminded that they can belive what they want. Don't attempt to convice the world that they are correct in their views by threatening death to all who oppose them. They brought this upon them selves with the death threats, hopefully isolation from major internet sites will make them realize there foolishness. And if not at least I will no longer have to deal with them online...

you make these people sound liker hereos even though they are complete dicks. although you may think religion is "ridiculous" but the majority of the world does not. this may be a message against muslim extremism but its also an insult to muslims in general. This pretty much makes everyone who has participated on that page somewhat of a douche. especially since they know they can do this without reprimand. this isnt "brave as you call it, its simply a page to spread hate and ignorance. AKA trolling

Heros no, hate speach no, dicks yes (everyone is in one way or another thats life), and it is a retaliation against muslum extremists correct, are other muslums offended correct. But in any fight, there will always be some included that are hurt but not the targets. And brave yeah. will you sighn your name to a page, with information about you linked to it? When extremists are threatening to kill those who draw mohammed. Yes most will go without reprimand, maybe all. But that is the point they are getting across. You can't threaten freedom of speach or press with death and hold your threat. There is religious satire on every religion why should the muslum faith be excluded? They all have their books and their gods they belive to be the truth. No I do not support any religion i do think it is ridiculous, but my opinion on religion has nothing to do with my support of the rights of free speech or free press. This includes the right to make satirical art of a religious figure.

 

[ShadowsofHope]

..Yeah, hypocritical hits the head on the nail.

Goddamned Islamic Fundies, I'll draw your bloody prophet all I damned well want!

..And evade the next 10 trains.

 

[chaos order]

Islam is a messed up path anyway, whole bunch of do as I say, or I kill you!

As opposed to do as i say otherwise after you die i will torture you forever.

Or the do as the law says or be sent to jail

The first is direct intentional harm to someone other than yourself.

Second is a self-induced mentality.

Third; most laws are against the harm of another.


I like the third better. =D


But hey, nothing will be done about the Muslim religion, because the PC people point the finger at every given opportunity; disregarding the intolerances the religion brings, as a dismissable stereotype. If you research about the Islamic faith, and follow the 2,500 years of islamic based conflicts - that are still present and persistant to this day, you begin to see that a lot that goes on is dreadful.

You can't be tolerant of something that promotes intolerance; it's self-defeating. IE: Sharia Law being injected into european countries, not making headlines because of the fear of the PC crowd. Sharia Law is not something any sane person would strive for.

One other thing people don't seem to understand is that, yes, these followers of Islam do infact read the Qur'an, and at least partly abide by it. Otherwise they're not Muslim. And are thus promoting what the Qur'an teaches in some manner. Yes there are different interpretations of the Qu'ran, but they usually don't stray too far away from each other.


The "do as I say, or I kill you!" as mentioned above is no exaggeration, there are many other intolerant and repressive teachings within this book.


If in doubt about what I say, have a good look around the internet; there's many reports all over the world, more notably in the UK, France and Germany, of which the Islamic faith being used as a tool to repress government authority.


As long as it's still perceived as the norm to grant political and social immunity to groups with the intention of protecting the individual, this will continue.

You make Islam sound like this intolerable tyrant religion which it isnt. let clear up somke misconceptions that people have about Islam The quran respects most religions especially Jews and Christians even calling them protected people. during the middle ages Islam gave more rights to people of other religions and women within their territories than any other religion. THe whole Islam is sexist thing is bunk to its no more sexist than any other religion. there is NO mention of women having to wear the hijab or the burka. The quran states that the wives of the prophet had to speak to other men from a veil not all women. the quaran states the women should dress modestly not completely covered. THe reason y the hijab is pushed so hard on other religions is beacause of this misinterpretation, the hijab isnt part of ISLAM. you also say that there are alot of violence lines in the quran it would seem that you have taken a lesson from fitna and have taken lines out of context, you most likely took the lines from the infamous "sword" verses of the quran

 

[Kurokami]

Well, the page is ignorant and retarded and personally, I think it should be removed. Idiots should not be tolerated.

If all retarded pages were removed from facebook than safe to say you may as well block its entirety. Some would say its also retarded to attack citizens who had nothing to do with the original incident as well (Denmark in mind). Obviously it doesn't justify the provocation of Muslims who weren't involved in it but if they did it out of spite its at the very least understandable.


I'm against censorship (pro honesty however, I won't defend a word or sentence constructed of lies) so my position remains to keep it up, however I also feel that the moment it starts imposing itself on users it should be removed, If there's a thumbnail of Muhammad for example. On the other hand I can't culturally understand what it means to a Muslim, so a pop up suggestion advertising the page could be just as insulting/offensive to them as if we or our kids were to see some kind of fetish or rape page being presented to the site.

 

[chaos order]

Well, the page is ignorant and retarded and personally, I think it should be removed. Idiots should not be tolerated.

So people who stand for free speach and freedom of press are "idiots and should not be tolerated"? I can only assume you are muslum or some other rediculous religous extremist who atempts to impose your views on others. These brave people brought opposition to muslum extremist who needed to be reminded that they can belive what they want. Don't attempt to convice the world that they are correct in their views by threatening death to all who oppose them. They brought this upon them selves with the death threats, hopefully isolation from major internet sites will make them realize there foolishness. And if not at least I will no longer have to deal with them online...

you make these people sound liker hereos even though they are complete dicks. although you may think religion is "ridiculous" but the majority of the world does not. this may be a message against muslim extremism but its also an insult to muslims in general. This pretty much makes everyone who has participated on that page somewhat of a douche. especially since they know they can do this without reprimand. this isnt "brave as you call it, its simply a page to spread hate and ignorance. AKA trolling

Heros no, hate speach no, dicks yes (everyone is in one way or another thats life), and it is a retaliation against muslum extremists correct, are other muslums offended correct. But in any fight, there will always be some included that are hurt but not the targets. And brave yeah. will you sighn your name to a page, with information about you linked to it? When extremists are threatening to kill those who draw mohammed. Yes most will go without reprimand, maybe all. But that is the point they are getting across. You can't threaten freedom of speach or press with death and hold your threat. There is religious satire on every religion why should the muslum faith be excluded? They all have their books and their gods they belive to be the truth. No I do not support any religion i do think it is ridiculous, but my opinion on religion has nothing to do with my support of the rights of free speech or free press. This includes the right to make satirical art of a religious figure.

i have no problem with "teasing" religion i find it hilarious at times but this page is simply there for shock and nothing more. i dont think that the muslsim faith should not be excluded seeing as that would make people avoid islam all togethor, however this site clearly just wants to bash the muslim faith. If this was truley an attempt to show the extremists that they were not afraid of them then they would atleast attampt not to insult the faith as whole which ecompases over 1 billion people

 

[OneKlicKill]

Well, the page is ignorant and retarded and personally, I think it should be removed. Idiots should not be tolerated.

So people who stand for free speach and freedom of press are "idiots and should not be tolerated"? I can only assume you are muslum or some other rediculous religous extremist who atempts to impose your views on others. These brave people brought opposition to muslum extremist who needed to be reminded that they can belive what they want. Don't attempt to convice the world that they are correct in their views by threatening death to all who oppose them. They brought this upon them selves with the death threats, hopefully isolation from major internet sites will make them realize there foolishness. And if not at least I will no longer have to deal with them online...

you make these people sound liker hereos even though they are complete dicks. although you may think religion is "ridiculous" but the majority of the world does not. this may be a message against muslim extremism but its also an insult to muslims in general. This pretty much makes everyone who has participated on that page somewhat of a douche. especially since they know they can do this without reprimand. this isnt "brave as you call it, its simply a page to spread hate and ignorance. AKA trolling

Heros no, hate speach no, dicks yes (everyone is in one way or another thats life), and it is a retaliation against muslum extremists correct, are other muslums offended correct. But in any fight, there will always be some included that are hurt but not the targets. And brave yeah. will you sighn your name to a page, with information about you linked to it? When extremists are threatening to kill those who draw mohammed. Yes most will go without reprimand, maybe all. But that is the point they are getting across. You can't threaten freedom of speach or press with death and hold your threat. There is religious satire on every religion why should the muslum faith be excluded? They all have their books and their gods they belive to be the truth. No I do not support any religion i do think it is ridiculous, but my opinion on religion has nothing to do with my support of the rights of free speech or free press. This includes the right to make satirical art of a religious figure.

i have no problem with "teasing" religion i find it hilarious at times but this page is simply there for shock and nothing more. i dont think that the muslsim faith should not be excluded seeing as that would make people avoid islam all togethor, however this site clearly just wants to bash the muslim faith. If this was truley an attempt to show the extremists that they were not afraid of them then they would atleast attampt not to insult the faith as whole which ecompases over 1 billion people

I disagree with the idea that this page was ment to "Bash" the muslum religion. The original idea was to defend the right to freedom of speach and press extending to the right to create religous satire. Now i do understand that some took this draw mohammad day as an excuse to "bash" the muslum faith and to them I agree are idiots. But to the true objective of the page, the concept of the day, and the true idealsits who understood the point they were trying to convay I profoundly support.

 

[duchaked]

so silly to get so upset over this

so if I drew say...a stick person

and made a group where every day of the week that stick person REPRESENTS some significant figure...and say Monday was Mohammad...oh dear! BANHAMMER controversyomfgzers(?)

 

[L-J-F]

Another important point to make is this: EBMD seperates the extremists from the average muslims, a very good thing. The extremists should be looked upon like some kind of plague ridden corpse, now if only there was a way to do the same about fanatical christians ...

 

[Cliff_m85]

"Everybody Draw Muhammad Day" is an example of abusing freedom of speech. I don't believe in any censorship or that anyone should have their freedom of speech restricted; but if you participate, you're essentially being a douche to 1/6 of the world's population because a few extremists want to censor South park.

As for Pakistan banning Facebook over it...was this a democratic decision, that the people agreed upon? Or is it an imposition of the state upon the people? I support peoples' right to self-determination, but not the state as it arbitrarily imposes undemocratic laws upon the people.

So you'd be ok if 98% of the country demanded banning Facebook and not care about the logical 2%? Interesting.

 

[Cliff_m85]

i think that the page should not be censored(i feel a bad burning sensation inside), however i find that everyone on that page is being a little bit of a dick. thy are simply doing this in order to piss people off without discretion. they dont care if they insult normal muslims or extremists ,they just want to insult muslims in general.


on a side note: alot of people here rag on religion, saying it is obsolete and we have the miracle of science to explain how the world works. Although i do somewhat agree with you ( as a muslim im saying this with clenched teeth). But people fail to realize that religion has brought alot of science into the world. we wouldn't have astronomy or even biology without religion for that matter. Yes during the earlier ages these sciences were basic but religion set the ground work for people to try and understand the world and universe around them. i wouldnt go so far as to say without religion we wouldnt have science without religion but religion did help ALOT to help sciences start. YES religion has attempted to stop science (like with evolution) but i think of it as the student surpassing the teacher, the teacher doesn't like it too much.

Religion may have "caused" the death of millions over the ages but it wasn't the religion it self that caused the death it was people reinterpreting their faith in order to further their political or personal goals. I think i'd like to use the NRA's slogan with this (although i dont like them either) in that religion dont kill people, people kill people. science is relatively new compared to other religions so it hasnt gone through this bastardization that religion has gone through. i mean i can think of one example were science has been used to negatively catagorize others. during the enlightenment(the time being when science began to gain popularity as the main tool in explaining the world) jews were labeled as an inferior species rather than a religion and that their death or segregation from society will benefit humanity as a whole. this is the best example of how science can also be the cause of violence, and death towards people.

so yes science has replaced religion as the main tool for explaining the world and that religion should be kept in ones home and not in politics, but it has done great things as well, like spreading morality and ethics towards each other and it is the extremists or the irrationals that choose to ignore such teachings. SO religion DOES deserve respect in my opinion event to athiests, they should at least respect religion similiar to that of a museum piece that has benefited humanity more than being a detriment to it.

really? remember the dark ages? hundreds of years with literally no scientific advancements because of religion? sorry i dont mean to sound like a dick but religion has not helped science

yes im not going to deny the dark ages was a dark time for religion (see what i did there?) but as i said in my earlier post, biology and astronomy were pretty much started because of religion. When kepler calculated that the planets rotated in an ellipse rather than a circle he was driven by a religious feeling that he would be closer to god by knowing more about the universe. Now that is an example of how religion has helped science. without religion driving kepler we wouldnt have been able to go to the moon or send satelites into space.

No it's not. It's an example of a religious individual helping science. Newton, for instance, was tossed in jail for going against the Bible. Religion deserves no respect. It shows time and time again that actual fact-based research gets fought against due to bronze-age faith.

The dark ages was a wonderful time for religion, it was a purely religious time. For science, however, not at all. You know why religion tries to stop science. It's not because the 'student is exceeding the teacher'. It's because science points to one 'scary' thing....that the religious hokum in holy texts is....well....hokum.

 

[Cliff_m85]

so silly to get so upset over this

so if I drew say...a stick person

and made a group where every day of the week that stick person REPRESENTS some significant figure...and say Monday was Mohammad...oh dear! BANHAMMER controversyomfgzers(?)

@:'D

Mini-muhammad.

 

[Vitor Goncalves]

Well...cant say imn surprised. After what happened to that newspaper dude and he now has people trying to kill him...

One nation that seriously over-reacts...dont see Israel banning stuff of depictations of Jesus...

Jesus means nothing to Israel, they are Jews, so I don't see any reason for Israel to ban it.