Parents call cops, worried their son forgot to take his medicine. Cops shoot him to death.
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You know, I find it rather offensive that people are criticizing America as a whole. Not all of us are gun toting hicks who drink beer all day and drive our pick-up truck like hell all over the country roads... Just look at how much more "civilized" California is...
OT: I demand more sources before I give an opinion on this matter good sir!
OT: I demand more sources before I give an opinion on this matter good sir!
And I go again with the MORE RESEARCH schpeal. In 2009 Tazers for police were still new and NOT widely used.Mad1Cow said:
Also as a last resort this can be seen as because the car could have had all the windows rolled up and that my friend would not be good thing for a tazer since they have no ability to go through things like glass.
This is just an aside, but I love hearing when a police tazers someone and that person dies and then the media jumps all over the police because they need more training and shouldn't be using tazers all willy-nilly. And tazers get the raw deal and there is a call for even less non-lethal methods.Krion_Vark said:
Yeah I do find it funny. I said it in a previous post but my dad is a state cop in Mass. He does not carry a tazer because of the funding behind it and they are usually the last in the country to get the stuff a couple of weeks ago he said pepper spray still works and its less lethal than a tazer.bdcjacko said:
And as a side note I told him I want him to taze me when he does get a tazer. I wonder if he will actually tazer me.
Because its the internet. Hell every source is a credible source here. I mean if someone got their information off 4chan it is considered credible and YES I have seen that on here before and laughed at the absurdity.jumjalalabash said:
Use tragedy to make sweeping statement about a country; typical escapist forum rat.Daystar Clarion said:
[Time to leave before this thread gets anymore convoluted... Or turns into an America vs The World flame war]
Agreed.
Wha-wha-whaaaaat?
Wait, stupidity is one thing but why did this happen? What the fuj!?
He got asked to give him meds so he ran him off the road and shot him? It's pretty damn obvious something isn't being explained.
Wait, stupidity is one thing but why did this happen? What the fuj!?
He got asked to give him meds so he ran him off the road and shot him? It's pretty damn obvious something isn't being explained.
Ditto >_>CommonSense1013 said:
Oh, oh! Pick me! Pick me! I read them!Irridium said:
Then again I almost always read the comments and linked articles. I bet I could post a link to an article about proper pony maintenance, say it was some cop walking into a bar and shooting five underage drinkers in Atlanta, and have the first five people respond with "only in America, dah, hur."
Erm I'm pretty sure The Hangover was joking about the police having tazers and that film came out in 2009. I'm also pretty sure that's when they started selling certain tazers to women, either that or around early 2010. I'll find a source when I can be bothered.Krion_Vark said:
Anyway back to the main point, there are other options then just killing him. Now to my knowledge they were by his pick-up truck when he was off-roaded. They were no negotiations (and don't say they had reason to not negotiate because a guy went on a killing spree in Britain and they still pulled out the megaphone rather than the gun when he had a gun and was threatening the cops.) and also if the window was down he could have shot the glass or simply the tyres. OH NO I'M GONNA GET RUN DOWN WHEN YOU HAVE SO MANY FLATS!!!
I've also been studying policing methods before and came across what they used to teach you in the academy (about the 70s). They too used to always ALWAYS scream out the gun is a last resort weapon. The example they use is that there is an asian at an airport, holding a bag with wires in it. You approach him to ask him to put the bag down, he still keeps walking. You start running up to him, he starts running away. You scream for him to stop, he STILL keeps running. Until eventually someone says "I shoot him". That guy was a foreign electric maintenance man, looking to gain some experience in other industries and now he's dead, you've got to go to court to face his family and you will go to jail for life for misconduct. They used to teach it, I'm pretty sure it's not taught anymore, probably just a lesson in firearms usage and then saying "please only use this as a last resort" which is not going to stop people from using it. The point is police are too trigger happy nowadays and take a life for granted.
Did I say that Americans are morons? No. I simply asked why America gives gun to idiots.CommonSense1013 said:
If you use a gun in a scenario like this, and end up killing someone, you're a moron.
If you give police guns then they're just that much more likely to use them in a situation that doesn't demand it.
Try to play the wounded stereotype better next time, 'kay?
For people who will no doubt be demanding evidence for tasers being sold to the general public:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0YihXE6xzo
I know it's a little ridiculous but I remember hearing the pink stinger story and I'm pretty sure by searching for it in like the BBC you'd find a news report on it. Also check the date of the video, clearly before 2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0YihXE6xzo
I know it's a little ridiculous but I remember hearing the pink stinger story and I'm pretty sure by searching for it in like the BBC you'd find a news report on it. Also check the date of the video, clearly before 2009.
The term police state describes a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of the population. A police state typically exhibits elements of totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive.GWarface said:
If you think for a second that the US government is running a police state, take off your tin foil hat and thank God you don't have to live in North Korea or a Middle Eastern dictatorship. The fact that you are even allowed to post that the US is a police state is proof enough that you have freedom of speech.
Again I say research more.Mad1Cow said:
If you shoot out the tires when a car is at a dead stop it can still go pretty freaking well. It will cause near irreversible damage to car which is VERY expensive to fix.
Also we do not know how many times Joey was shot but it is actually taught to aim for NONFATAL areas to subdue. But then again Joey was behind a 2 ton killing machine.
Also I am pretty sure that the reason they don't teach it with your example anymore because of the fact that the person WOULD NOT be in jail for life because even in that example he followed all procedure and only discharged his weapon as a last resort.