Parents Group Denounces Supreme Court Decision

[Madara XIII]

For petes sake...

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You see these? These are on the front and back cover of every video game being sold today. They determine whether or not a game is appropriate or not for a young child. We DON'T NEED a law to enforce this kind of thing.

Besides, stores like GameStop are already required to not sell games that are M rated to minors. Unless a parent is there to buy the game for them. In which case, the employee will warn the parent ahead of time of the content within the game. Which is described on the BACK OF THE BOX. So if anything, it's your fault for buying the violent video game for them in the first place.

Honestly, it's just common sense.

However you seem to forget a good majority of people lack that mystical ability known as common sense

One wonders why it's called "common sense" then.

I think Deadpool can put things into a better Perspective than I can


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[Beautiful End]

It's funny because with all these stupid arguments, it seems the video game industry can be compared and go hand by hand with the porn industry! Or maybe drug trafficking!
Seriously, are video games such a bad thing according to these guys?! Parents are just getting SO. FUCKING. RETARDED these days.
When I was a kid, I was only allowed to play 1 hour per day. Would I have wanted to play more? Yeah, of course. But I gotta admit that forced me to go outside more too. I also wasn't allowed to play M rated games when I was a kid. Was I tempted to play them? Yeah, and perhaps nothing bad would have come out of it but still. I think I can grasp the point better now.

My point is that if parents don't want their kids playing M rated games, then DON'T FUCKING BUY THEM! No one should sell an M rated game to a minor. But assuming they get their hands on one of them (Come on, they're kids!), then they should put attention to what they're playing! Force them to show you the disk (Come on, they're kids!) or sit down and watch them play to see if you approve! No one can tell you how to raise your child but by heavens, your kid won't educate himself! Don't let him just do whatever; get involved in what they're doing!

Games CAN be addicting, just like anything else. But with good parent supervision, they can't do a thing to your kid. So stop being a lazy ass, grab your kid by their ear and toss that M rated game out the window if you're so pissed! There, problem solved! Didn't even have to go to Supreme Court to settle that.

Fucking lazy parents. I swear they get on my nerves, the little pricks. -_-;

Sorry for my bad French. It just gets on my nerves. You know they're gonna keep on bitching about it.

 

[Redd the Sock]

The real funny part of this: with digital distribution moving forward the whole ruling is pointless.

"Sir, may I buy this copy of Mass Effect 2?"

"Sorry, you have to be 18."

"The can I buy 3 $20 PSN cards?"

"sure."

(kid goes home to download the game he couldn't buy)


My two point to these partent groups:

1) even governmental laws won't keep "bad" material from your kids. There have been laws for years about cigarettes, booze and porn not being sold to minors, and even at 12 we could easially find the vendors willing to take our cash and ask no questions (for the record, I only partook in the porn)

2) You have to be a parent, and that means more than being a permenent censor in your child's life. It's about providing context about right and wrong. I you don't want kids to do these things, you have to tell them why, not shelter it from them.

 

[TurboPanda]

I fully agree with the PTC. As a conservative parent i do not understand video games. Instead of spending time to either understand or play video games i'm going to do the logical thing and presume they are morally devoid and the people who make them are communists who are funded by BP and the Taliban.

I don't know what a PEGI rating is. I don't know how advanced concepts such as "parental controls" work. How am i meant to know that a game with a vague title such as Grand Theft Auto or Modern Warfare is in fact a murder simulator?? If my little kid guns down an airport or walks around in a white hooded top stabbing corrupt Templars or starts recruiting a team of the Galaxies best warriors to take down the collectors because of one of these monstrosities you call games I WILL do the responsible thing and blame someone else.

 

[Irridium]

"This ruling replaces the authority of parents with the economic interests of the videogame industry. With no fear of any consequence for violating the videogame industry's own age restriction guidelines, retailers can now openly, brazenly sell games with unspeakable violence and adult content even to the youngest of children," Winter said.

But, they don't do that, haven't done that, and won't do that.

PTC claims that the law put forth by Rep. Leland Yee was flawless in its execution, despite even the dissenters in the Supreme Court calling out its vagueness as a problem. "The carefully-worded California statute would not have interfered in any way with the rights of the creators of adult games or the adults who wish to buy them; and in fact, it would not interfere with parents who wanted to purchase such a game for their children. Rather, the measure only would have prevented an unaccompanied minor child from buying or renting the product."

Which is already done by retailers.

In fact, the FTC found that the ESRB system is one of the most successful ratings systems, compared to other major media. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/103555-Retailers-Turn-Away-80-of-Kids-Trying-to-Buy-M-Rated-Games]

Precisely. What about television? Any kid with a remote can watch whatever they damn well please(provided their parents are subscribed to the channels). Plenty of kids watch porn late at night on cinamax. Or did, before the internet. How about you get your own medium under control, before attacking a medium that's far better than you at keeping violent/pornagraphic material away from kids.

 

[Siege_TF]

You seem to be working under the assumption that the PTC doesn't have at least as much rancour for television and the internet. This is obviously a group of individuals that are highly motivated in, and involved with all forms of forcing the government to raise their kids for them.

 

[Hawkmoon269]

This just in: parents group complains about having nothing decent to complain about

 

[xXDeMoNiCXx]

Spoiler: I think that such an illogical, incorrect, one-sided and generally ignorant argument deserves only one response

[HEADING=1]U Mad?[/HEADING]​

Spoiler: I think that such an illogical, incorrect, one-sided and generally ignorant argument deserves only one response

^This right here.

 

[crossgenesis]

"This ruling replaces the authority of parents with the economic interests of the videogame industry. With no fear of any consequence for violating the videogame industry's own age restriction guidelines, retailers can now openly, brazenly sell games with unspeakable violence and adult content even to the youngest of children," Winter said.

[HEADING=1]THEN FUCKING WATCH WHAT YOUR KIDS PLAY, ASSHOLE![/HEADING]

Excuse me, couldn't help myself.

Really, these parents need to shutup. No one replaced the parents' authority to watch what their kids played.

Personally, I say you lost, get over it. Because when the highest court in the land practically says shut up and go away. Maybe you should. Thank you for saying that as well. There is more violence in the 6 o'clock news than a video game.

 

[BoogieManFL]

The law didn't agree with you so it's wrong, hmm? That's a good impression for your kids.

Okay, if your kid is so young to not know it's a game how are they buying the game? If they are old enough to earn their own money and buy it themselves then GUESS WHAT do some parenting and be aware of what your child is doing.

This whole thing just pisses me off with it's stupidity.

"This ruling replaces the authority of parents with the economic interests of the videogame industry. With no fear of any consequence for violating the videogame industry's own age restriction guidelines, retailers can now openly, brazenly sell games with unspeakable violence and adult content even to the youngest of children," Winter said.

What? Replaces the authority of the parents? So the game company can come into your house and tell the child they can play a game you don't approve of? Really?


"Countless independent studies confirm what most parents instinctively know to be true: Repeated exposure to violent videogames has a harmful and long-term effect on children."

Yeah? All my friends and I have been playing games since the 80s and we're all perfectly normal people. My real life experience trumps your bullshit "studies".



If you can't control what games your child plays then you shouldn't be a parent. Maybe YOU are the problem.

 

[onikaze26]

my thoughts exactly, I just don't get this kind of stance, people are stupid

 

[Redingold]

For a group preaching about the authority of parents, they sure don't seem willing to exercise it and check what their kids buy.

 

[Zing]

Unspeakable violence? lolparents..

 

[badmunky64]

Of course their going to think the supreme court succumbed to economic pressures.

If they don't they'd have to admit that they're wrong and only have themselves to blame that their kids are violent/stupid.

 

[Daestar]

Really parents? Going to put all this energy into organizing a group and making a "serious business" name and spend all of it to complain? It's the god damn judicial system! You can't argue with a third of the government if your only excuse is, "We don't like this." At least try to use some way that proves that the amount of censorship is necessary and without everyone would become God of War level killing machines. But of course, that's not likely to happen because there is no way that works because of more responsible people than these people pretending to know what they're talking about.

 

[steampunk42]

this is baloney! the retailer still has to follow the rating system guidelines, its not like they can just sell grand theft auto to a 8 year old yet. and the parent still can just not let the kid play it. the California law was meant to target the sale of mature rated games...PERIOD (least thats how ive interpreted it)

 

[imperialreign]

The Parents Television Council, or PTC, has been protecting children from "sex, violence and profanity on television and in other media" since 1995 . . .

Wow . . . really? They obviously haven't done that great of a job of it, TBH. Why, come to think of it, movies and TV shows have only become increasingly more violent over the last 16 years, and there haven't been any major breakthroughs in protective measures. I certainly don't remember this group being behind the "V-chip," nor behind the advocacy of any parental controls built into TVs and current DVR/DVD or other media devices . . .

Come to think of it, even though such control measures are in place, I can't personally think of anyone I know who uses them with their children - mostly because they claim the features tend to be too much of a hassel to have to deal with disabling for when they want to watch things (don't know from personal experience, though, simply basing this on what's effectivelly hearsay) . . .

Then, let's not forget the intranetz and the wonderful plethora of media that it allows children access to - even with parental controls in place. I've met many a youngster that already knew the method of connecting via proxy, or some other means around "nanny software."

Good job, PTC - you've done an excellent job at protecting our children!!! Instead of trying to protect children from the various forms of media, you might want to consider protecting them from their own parents who seem to be the ones negligent in doing their job of restricting access to certain media, or doing their research into what their child is interested in wanting to watch and/or play. Bravo! My hat's off to you for being yet another shinning example of an organization that has so deluded and egotised itself that it feels the need to embark on senseless and pointless crusades that are completely contradictory to what the organization set out to do in the first place.

 

[Hugga_Bear]

Wait wait wait. The Parent's Television Council? They're complaining about video games?
Oh lordy. You think someone should tell them what TV does to you?