I would very much like to know how you manage to spend £80 per week on food, on yourself! That is over £10 per day! Do you eat out all the time? Do you live on takeaway?!molesgallus said:Wait... What? £20 is considered a lot for food? I spend at least £80, a week. That's me at my most frugal. I own my own flat, next to the Uni, so I suppose I have that expense covered. But, still. £20 a week? That's under £3 a day? I'm desperately confused here. That is Ramen' territory. £1 for each meal. How can people live like that?RobCoxxy said:£100 a month is nothing, I was paying £60 a week in student accomodation, then £20 for food (I LIKE TO EAT) then £10/20pm for electricity, £10-15pm for broadband and £10pm for my phone.
So £100pm is a steal for rent.
Yeah, but it's still more than £100 a month. £100 a month for rent and food and internet and electric is really cheap, and if he wants to pay more, then that's fine. Still seems pretty dumb to me if your home life is good.Abandon4093 said:The students that live in halls an flats usually get accommodation loans. If you're going to get an accommodation loan you may aswell move out.theflyingpeanut said:How many university students don't pay rent? I imagine they would have £100 a month spare if they budgeted for it.Abandon4093 said:What university student just happens to have a spare £100 a month?ravensheart18 said:I bet he can't get rent anywhere else for 100/month. Sounds like she is giving him a deal.Abandon4093 said:I'd just move out if I were you.
IF your parents can afford it, its not unreasonable to expect a free ride during University. If however they can't, it is not at all unreasonable to ask for a small amount like that to help cover the costs they are incurring for you, such as food and utility costs.
You are 18, so be an adult. Agree to the rent, calmly discuss the 700 they owe you, and strike a deal for that to cover the first 7 months.
You may aswell just apply for a housing loan and move out.
I would not ever advise anybody to take a loan when there is such a bloody good alternative available.Abandon4093 said:The students that live in halls an flats usually get accommodation loans. If you're going to get an accommodation loan you may aswell move out.
Having to spend £100 out of £500 isn't too unreasonable, I think, even though it feels like a lot. The advice I've been given (when it comes to actual jobs and actual non-family renting) is that housing costs should be about 1/4 to 1/3 of your total income, so you're still not exceeding that. For example, I currently make about $2000 a month and spend $550 on rent for my apartment (splitting the total of $1100 rent with my roommate.) Being able to save any money is pretty nice, and having almost £400 a month to save or spend as you like is downright luxurious for a student! ;pDavih said:She's pretty hard to talk to in general, we don't get along too well, and I don't think asking her for 7 months free to clear what she owes me would go down too well, since that would mean that the whole point in asking me for money is redundant pretty redundant.
I suppose I should add that i don't have to pay her in months I don't get any money which I think it's from June-August which is more than fair. I was more annoyed when creating the topic and have calmed down a bit. I think £100 a month is too much when I'm only getting £500 month.
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18 onwards he's no longer a child, there are children in the house who deserve supporting more as they are children, and benifits are being reduced due to his being over 18.Abandon4093 said:If she wasn't prepared to do that then she shouldn't have had a child.archabaddon said:She did raise you for 18 years, diapered your ass when you were crapping yourself as a baby, fed you when you couldn't feed yourself, etc. I think £100 is a trivial fee to pay rent.
He didn't decide one day that he should just be born and inconvenience her with nappies and crying.
Your logic is flawed, that is what is expected of every parent. Paying upkeep whilst you're studying shouldn't be expected of any child.
i never said they should relinquish all responsibility at 18. but their priorities should shift as his age changes, and teach him a little bit about surviving in the real world, give him a little responsibility. parents obligation to raise their child goes beyond throwing money at them.Abandon4093 said:As someone else in this thread said.Mr Ink 5000 said:18 onwards he's no longer a child, there are children in the house who deserve supporting more as they are children, and benifits are being reduced due to his being over 18.Abandon4093 said:If she wasn't prepared to do that then she shouldn't have had a child.archabaddon said:She did raise you for 18 years, diapered your ass when you were crapping yourself as a baby, fed you when you couldn't feed yourself, etc. I think £100 is a trivial fee to pay rent.
He didn't decide one day that he should just be born and inconvenience her with nappies and crying.
Your logic is flawed, that is what is expected of every parent. Paying upkeep whilst you're studying shouldn't be expected of any child.
Also, parents have a reasponsibility to prepare you for the real world. it'd cost him alot more to move out
A parents responsibility doesn't just disappear once the child turns 18. You only stop being a parent when you're mentally or physically incapable of being one.
If he can't afford £100 a month then what is he to do? He's left with the option of dropping out of uni to pick up a paying job. Not exactly the most parental ultimatum to give a child is it?
That's pretty cheap to be honest. Just pay it and rail her about getting a fucking job every time you hand the money over. Since I was 17 I've paid my own and my sister's child support because my deadbeat dad left my mom and then got fired from his job when they found weed in his system. For over 4 years I've been paying what amounts to £500 every month.Davih said:To start, I'm gonna give you some background about me. I live in Scotland and that I am 18. 10 people live in my house, my Mum, Step-dad, sister, 3 Step-Sisters, 1 Step-Brother, my Cousin and my Cousin's 3 year old son. And of course me. I finished school in June and my Sister nad Step-Sister finished school June 2010.
I start University on Monday and I get money from SAAS/SLC for doing so. I get ~£550 a month from them combined, and just over £1000 in September combined (I don't know why more in September, i guess for books and stuff.)
To keep costs down going ot Uni (by the time I finish my course I'll be ~£16000 in debt, possibly more, since the Government pay for 4 years of University) I decided to stay at home, thinking my Mum was reasonable since my Sister has been at Uni for a year and didn't have to give my Mum anything.
Anyways, she turned round to me, my Sister, and my Step-Sister today and said the she needs £100 a month of us in "rent". I don't mind giving her money, but she owes me ~£700 from the money I've let her borrow over the years since i was about 14. Her reasoning is that the three of us left school, her income has been decreasing because of the money she gets from the government when we are at school. My Mum and Step-Dad also don't have a job, so I think it is compeltely unreasonable to siphon money from us because they are too lazy to go out and get a job. It just pisses me off that she refuses to get a job.
Should i give her the money? Do you or did you have to pay your parents rent whilst doing your studies? How much did you have to pay them?
He's getting £500 a month. How can he not afford £100? I get the same, and I can afford to pay £200. I still have plenty left over for travel, and after that, I can afford to have a lot of fun. The idea that he can't contribute to the house if they need him to is bullshit. They're not asking him to give up all his money, he's got plenty left over. If he has to travel so far that he can't afford to do so on that budget with plenty left over, then it would be cheaper to simply get a flat nearer the uni.Abandon4093 said:If you can't afford £100 a month without getting an accommodation loan how can you just pay them?theflyingpeanut said:Yeah, but it's still more than £100 a month. £100 a month for rent and food and internet and electric is really cheap, and if he wants to pay more, then that's fine. Still seems pretty dumb to me if your home life is good.Abandon4093 said:The students that live in halls an flats usually get accommodation loans. If you're going to get an accommodation loan you may aswell move out.theflyingpeanut said:How many university students don't pay rent? I imagine they would have £100 a month spare if they budgeted for it.Abandon4093 said:What university student just happens to have a spare £100 a month?ravensheart18 said:I bet he can't get rent anywhere else for 100/month. Sounds like she is giving him a deal.Abandon4093 said:I'd just move out if I were you.
IF your parents can afford it, its not unreasonable to expect a free ride during University. If however they can't, it is not at all unreasonable to ask for a small amount like that to help cover the costs they are incurring for you, such as food and utility costs.
You are 18, so be an adult. Agree to the rent, calmly discuss the 700 they owe you, and strike a deal for that to cover the first 7 months.
You may aswell just apply for a housing loan and move out.