PC Gamers Beat Console Crowd to Bad Company 2 Vietnam Map Unlock

loc978

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Canid117 said:
Does the game still run like crap on normal PC's? Ran like garbage on mine because of the particle effects and I will not play unless I can turn the damn dust effects down so I can play without lagging horrifically every time a grenade goes off.
Define a "normal" PC...
 

Geo Da Sponge

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Hang on, don't you have to unlock repair tools, ammo boxes, health kits and defibrillators? You did in Bad Company 2. So doesn't that mean that PC gamers were still at a huge advantage for having the game a few days earlier? The only other explanation that seems logical to me is the same reason people can get achievements so quickly on TF2 :p.

I'm not getting sore about this since I don't own the game on any platform, but I find it hard to believe that there's such a huge discrepancy purely because PC gamers are 'more team friendly'. Especially if the statistic that PC gamers have less time clocked on the game in total is true.
 

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heheheh

PC gamers are more organized than consol gamers as we don't make fun of each other as much, and don't make rude comments nearly as often. (maybe that's just a fear of being hacked though... Also, no offense to those who do that.)
What PC games have you been playing? Ever third comment on BBC2 and TF2 is either a racist remark or some shithead 12-year-old threatening violence or sexual abuse against me. (granted, it's because i'm owning the idiot, but still.)

Seriously. Am i just playing on the douche-bag servers or something? Hell, it happens even on my gaming community's server.

We are, however, more organized than the console crowd. And we don't have matchmaking to contend with. I almost feel sorry for them. But they made their choice, so they can live with all the poorly balanced consequences.
 

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So much for PC gaming being "Dead". =P Now console players need to find another excuse as to why PC gaming sucks. Will they rely on the always true upgrading problem, or will they try to make up something new? I need to write this down...
 

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loc978 said:
Canid117 said:
Does the game still run like crap on normal PC's? Ran like garbage on mine because of the particle effects and I will not play unless I can turn the damn dust effects down so I can play without lagging horrifically every time a grenade goes off.
Define a "normal" PC...
How about an HP in the $900-$1100 range.
 

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To be fair, I hadn't even heard of this and I've been playing Vietnam quite a bit on the 360.

Seriously, have I been removed from it all or have other people playing not heard of this as well?
I haven't heard of it either.

Still, I wouldn't mind an extra map. Xbox 360 is in the lead now! Woot! :p
 

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Ironman126 said:
Seriously. Am i just playing on the douche-bag servers or something? Hell, it happens even on my gaming community's server.
Yes you are. Unless I play with friends I barely see any conversation. And I've only run into a single person that muttered something over the microphone.

One. Single. Person.
 

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A Pious Cultist said:
Released an hour ago, PC has about half the amount of hours played. Face it, this victory was staged by people running modified servers. Even if the hours on PC were even anywhere near the consoles it is still to suspiciously fast.
Even someone who isn't playing directly against you is cheating when they beat you, eh? I'll assume you have proof you just haven't shown yet since you have made quite the claim over something that barely matters.
 

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PeePantz said:
Being released to the PC a few days before obviously gives them an unfair advantage. By the time the challenge date of the console release, PC gamers have already gathered enough steam and had more people come back to the game. New players have also had three days prep. Also, they've had a chance to get the feel of the game such as maps and weaponry.
They started counting on the 22nd. lrn2read

http://www.youn00b.com/local.php?image=1233979984
 

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Ironman126 said:
What PC games have you been playing? Ever third comment on BBC2 and TF2 is either a racist remark or some shithead 12-year-old threatening violence or sexual abuse against me. (granted, it's because i'm owning the idiot, but still.)

Seriously. Am i just playing on the douche-bag servers or something? Hell, it happens even on my gaming community's server.
Yeah, you are. May I suggest looking for other servers? I wouldn't guarentee that no dicks will use any specific server (this is the internet, after all), but I certainly know servers where that sort of thing is rare in my experience).
 

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On behalf of the die-hard PC gamer community, I would like to take this opportunity to point and laugh. But please, don't feel too badly about it; the numbers are rising quickly and I'm sure that console gamers will be playing "Operation Hastings" any day now. In the meantime, we'll try not to have too much fun without you.
you're joking right? I understand PC Fanboyism, I even own BFBC2 and vietnam for the PC but this a bit harsh and unesscary.
Harsh? I wouldnt say harsh. Just true. LOL
 

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In fairness, it's pretty staggering how far behind both consoles are. Though I think he was joking, at least a bit :p Really though, this can be broken down quite simply.

In my experience, console gamers and PC gamers, as a general rule, have considerably different mindsets when playing multiplayer games. Because consoles are so widespread and accessible, you'll get a large variety of people who play it. Because of this, you'll get a lot of people who simply don't care about being part of a team (usually kids), and they'll go free for all. On PC, there's usually an older and more mature crowd for most games, so they're more likely to use tactics and work together.

I tend to agree with this - I've seen it myself numerous times over the years . . .


One thing, I think, that isn't taken into account - PC gamers tend to stick with one or two specific servers (usually those with the lowest ping rates), and one or two game styles (TDM, CTF, F4A, etc.) and as such, we tend to see a lot of the same players over and over again. When you play numerous matches alongside the same players every day, you get accustomed to their playing style, and the get accustomed to yours. Even though you don't exactly realise all this is going on . . .

An example, you join a match and see 10 players you recognize, 4 of which are on your team . . . with your team, you know that bub_rub and lil_s1s are uber-1337 players, and tend to play more of an assault role, while r1ck_r011 always plays a sniper role and 101_c47 tends to be more of an inflitrator. You can then assume a role that will be supportive of these players, and their roles will be supportive of yours. Meanwhile, you know on the opposing team, ped0_beer, 4ch4n and an0n play defensively, grouped together watching each other's backs (easy pickens for explosives) . . .

From my experiences with console MP, I don't see a lot of the same players over and over again like you do with PC matches.

That can have a lot to do with how drastically different the numbers are.
 

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icame said:
PeePantz said:
Being released to the PC a few days before obviously gives them an unfair advantage. By the time the challenge date of the console release, PC gamers have already gathered enough steam and had more people come back to the game. New players have also had three days prep. Also, they've had a chance to get the feel of the game such as maps and weaponry.
They started counting on the 22nd. lrn2read
You should follow your own advice. He's not saying that PC gamers had an earlier start for the count, but when the count started they already knew the maps, knew the best ways to help each other and had unlocked more stuff.

Seriously people, the PC version has had half as much total time spent playing on it and yet has had roughly four times as many team actions. Are you really suggesting an eight fold difference in the number of team actions is just because PC gamers are 'more team orientated'?
 

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icame said:
PeePantz said:
Being released to the PC a few days before obviously gives them an unfair advantage. By the time the challenge date of the console release, PC gamers have already gathered enough steam and had more people come back to the game. New players have also had three days prep. Also, they've had a chance to get the feel of the game such as maps and weaponry.
They started counting on the 22nd. lrn2read

http://www.youn00b.com/local.php?image=1233979984
Hahahahahaha. The irony is killing me right now! Go ahead. Reread my post. Actually I'll highlight it. You see sir, the expansion was released on the PC about three days before consoles. The counting started when they released it to the consoles.
 

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Canid117 said:
loc978 said:
Canid117 said:
Does the game still run like crap on normal PC's? Ran like garbage on mine because of the particle effects and I will not play unless I can turn the damn dust effects down so I can play without lagging horrifically every time a grenade goes off.
Define a "normal" PC...
How about an HP in the $900-$1100 range.
wipe the hard drive and install a clean operating system without HP bloatware and it should do just fine.
 

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God above. I thought the elitism was bad here. Taken from the offical forums for dice.

I would like to thank all my PC brothers in arms for holding it down out there. i'm easily one of the better PC players and i haven't touched vietnam because of lag issues. But being a PC gamer i know that my boys always have my back and when i'm not there to give it 110% my team will be.

sadly, console players will never rise to this level (even combined) because their resolve is weak. PC players kill quickly and without mercy. we rarely speak because we already know what to do. we do not compromise when it comes to equipment. and most importantly we do not stop. every PC player here knows what makes the grass grow: BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD.

console players only play when their junk stops working because they've watched too many 'adult internet movies' and then come onto these forums to make excuses about EVERYTHING.

seriously, if there was an excuse making contest consoles would win everytime. if you didn't want to spend $1000 on a gaming station I call that weak resolve. if you don't want to play everyday I call that weak resolve. go ahead and brag about your 'life' but don't EVER expect to be better at a video game than a PC user.

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/60/4577955.page

And this is why we can't have nice things =/
 

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A Pious Cultist said:
Released an hour ago, PC has about half the amount of hours played. Face it, this victory was staged by people running modified servers. Even if the hours on PC were even anywhere near the consoles it is still to suspiciously fast.
So, you're telling me that in 9 days or so, PC gamers played 54,951,555 hours? Never mind the 89,996,493 hours PS3 players have supposed to have played in that time, or the 94,868,509 hours for 360 players? You're having a laugh mate, that's overall stats [http://www.battlefieldbadcompany2.com/globalstats?platform=pc] you're talking about. Not even Call of Duty can pull that kind of play time in such a short space of time.
 

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Delusibeta said:
A Pious Cultist said:
Released an hour ago, PC has about half the amount of hours played. Face it, this victory was staged by people running modified servers. Even if the hours on PC were even anywhere near the consoles it is still to suspiciously fast.
So, you're telling me that in 9 days or so, PC gamers played 54,951,555 hours? Never mind the 89,996,493 hours PS3 players have supposed to have played in that time, or the 94,868,509 hours for 360 players? You're having a laugh mate, that's overall stats [http://www.battlefieldbadcompany2.com/globalstats?platform=pc] you're talking about. Not even Call of Duty can pull that kind of play time in such a short space of time.
I think the point there is how has the PC got more team actions in that shorter amount of time? It's argueable that the consoles shold have gotten more actions purely because more hours have been played, even taking into account the less team based gameplay on consoles.
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
Hang on, don't you have to unlock repair tools, ammo boxes, health kits and defibrillators? You did in Bad Company 2. So doesn't that mean that PC gamers were still at a huge advantage for having the game a few days earlier? The only other explanation that seems logical to me is the same reason people can get achievements so quickly on TF2 :p.

I'm not getting sore about this since I don't own the game on any platform, but I find it hard to believe that there's such a huge discrepancy purely because PC gamers are 'more team friendly'. Especially if the statistic that PC gamers have less time clocked on the game in total is true.
In Vietnam it carries over your rank and stats. So if you have all the medic gadgets unlocked in Bad Company 2 you'll have them all unlocked in Vietnam.
 

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Wow, I didn't even know about this. Probably gonna get the expansion tomorrow for 360, how is it anyway?