PC Gamers Launch Crysis 2 Petition

[Price0331]

Did anyone hear about how 4 DLC maps were included as well? Why isn't that getting any coverage? How about looking into how developers consistently churn out broken games only to release DLC content, that was made well before release, that you have to pay for, to play the game in it's complete form.

I understand that this might just be the "trend", but I believe it's a terrible one, and that as a consumer, you aren't getting your money's worth. I'm not going to say I won't, but I seriously doubt that I'll buy this game. (Albeit, I really enjoyed the first one.)

 

[The Rockerfly]

Since I've seen a lot of these posts, I'd like to respond.

People underestimate the value of moral support. Yes, the pledge doesn't have any financial effects until the game comes out and the people on the list go out and purchase the game. I understand that, and I think everyone signing the pledge understands that. Despite that, it doesn't make it pointless. It's a show of support for Crytek, a reminder that they still have a PC fanbase that gives a damn about their games and what happens to the company.

The true test will still come in the few weeks after the game releases, but for now, this is the best way we can show our support.

Not all of mine are for financial support but I wonder if the developers would even ever hear about it, let alone care about it. A letter or e-mail shows that you put a lot more effort then just signing a petition and I know personally I would prefer a few letters over more petitions. Having said that, it isn't a bad thing but I just feel there are better ways to show your appreciation.

I agree though, it will be interesting to see the sales figures when this game is released

 

[Woodsey]

Do these people know what a petition is? This isn't a petition

They're putting their names down and showing support.

Whether it's a petition or not (you can class it as a petition against the pirates) is irrelevant.

I won't pirate it, but I'm not planning on buying it either. Crytek has done perilously little to prove to me this isn't another consolized shooter.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/crysis-2-crysis-2/710533

All the gameplay elements of the first, with a stronger focus on narrative and a prettier PC version - what more do you want, exactly?

They've not stripped anything out.

 

[mikecoulter]

I'd sign it if I had a computer worth running it on. I have good computers, but if I can't run Crysis on max, I wont run it at all.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Such a petition is a stupid thing. What, "sign" "internets" to show you care? Write the developer by snail mail or e-mail for that matter, put time and effort to show how much you care, not click a button and send a petition which can be tampered with.

I dislike this.. "comfortable" approach. Sure, intellectual theft happened, but clicking a button on a website would mean shit to me as a developer. Its this sort of help that (probably, its only a stereotype) people prefer to do out of pity - just like giving money to some foundation to cure cancer while most of the money goes to its "operational expense" tab.

Do meaningful things! I sent them a postcard. You can do that too!

(I'd like to get support if someone would steal from me too)

Oh indeed. "Online Petitions" are irrelevant. A group of anonymous names are making demands...so what? I can write a script to click that petition button, and permutate the connection to the point where you wouldn't be able IP-screen it. One person could generate thousands of false "petitioners".

While the premise behind this group is sound, their execution is meaningless except maybe as a token gesture.

 

[RicoGrey]

I would sign a pledge saying I wont pirate the game, but I wouldnt sign a pledge saying I will buy. I loved crysis 1, and its expansion. Crysis 2, however, I simply have very little interest in, so I doubt I will be buying it at all.

 

[Wolfram23]

I think signing a petition to buy the game is pretty stupid. Yes, it's great to speak out against this kind of piracy and all but this is like the fanboy thing where gamers will just keep buying sequels and repeats over and over, which is slowly killing the industry. I'll say that I will buy Crysis 2, but only if the reviews are positive!

 

[theaceplaya]

I was signer #530. I don't even have a PC to play it on and had planned on getting it for 360 but I'm gonna buy a PC copy and give as a gift to a friend. I totally respect the petition and will support it.

 

[teh_gunslinger]

But I don't think it follows that we/I have to pledge to buy a game.

You don't "have to," obviously. But this isn't about buying the game, it's about reminding Crytek that while the PC as a platform may have a disproportionate number of pirate douchebags, there are still a lot of us who don't roll that way and who happily pay for the games we want. That's all. And I really think that's a worthwhile goal.

I think I may have come across too bombastic. Apologies. I'm all for reminding Crytek that some of us do buy our games. I did that buy buying all the games they've released so far. And I don't want to slag on them as their response on their forums seems measured and reasonable. I think I read somewhere that the first game sold about a million copies though, so I don't think they should doubt that they have a strong backing among PC players.

And as I said, if they care to release a single player demo for the sequel I'll check it out and see if I'll get it on release or wait for it to drop in price. If they have maintained the quality of the first I'll buy it pretty fast.

This whole situation is crap though. I think the reason I came across the way I did is general paranoia. These days it seems like every developer who makes quality PC games can't wait to jump for the consoles for whatever spurious reason they care to name.

And I don't like that. I haven't used either of my 3 consoles for months due to the general lower quality of games on them, so I'm worried whenever a strong PC dev makes any moves that indicates console games. See also CDP with the next Witcher game, Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 2 and so forth. So my apologies for letting my paranoia getting the better of me.

 

[Something Amyss]

Can I pledge simply to not pirate it?

The only reason I'm not buying it is lack of interest in the title. I oppose piracy and believe in purchasing my titles.

 

[Andy Chalk]

And I don't like that. I haven't used either of my 3 consoles for months due to the general lower quality of games on them, so I'm worried whenever a strong PC dev makes any moves that indicates console games.

I don't care for the trend either. But it's the reality of the market today: consoles are where the money's at. But at the same time, I don't like seeing game makers vilified for doing what they have to to survive. And honestly, the sense of entitlement I see in a lot of gamers drives me absolutely nuts. It's as though they have some divine right to play videogames and if a publisher dares to put out a game that's less than absolute perfection, or charges more than somebody thinks they should, or doesn't put out a demo that includes at least 50 percent of the game's content, it's a green light to steal it.

I guess we all have our sore spots.

 

[drivel]

Isn't it Crytek's responsibility to make sure their betas don't end up on the Internet? They should be finding the thief within their walls and smacking him down.

All-in-all, the petition is nice. I'll sign it. But, like dogstile, I'll probably wait for the price to drop before buying the game.

 

[teh_gunslinger]

And I don't like that. I haven't used either of my 3 consoles for months due to the general lower quality of games on them, so I'm worried whenever a strong PC dev makes any moves that indicates console games.

I don't care for the trend either. But it's the reality of the market today: consoles are where the money's at. But at the same time, I don't like seeing game makers vilified for doing what they have to to survive. And honestly, the sense of entitlement I see in a lot of gamers drives me absolutely nuts. It's as though they have some divine right to play videogames and if a publisher dares to put out a game that's less than absolute perfection, or charges more than somebody thinks they should, or doesn't put out a demo that includes at least 50 percent of the game's content, it's a green light to steal it.

I guess we all have our sore spots.

While I agree that a oversized sense of entitlement gets us nowhere I'd argue that it's acceptable to want to be able to play 15-30 minutes of a game, if for nothing else to see if my computer can run the game. In the case of Crysis that seems even more relevant.

Edit: and by that I mean, playing a demo. Not pirating it and playing it. Just to make it clear.

Pricing is another matter though. Any dev or publisher are of course free to price their game however they like. But I think it's also entirely reasonable to make up our own minds if a game is worth the price at release. I know I may be overly sensitive on that point, but games here in Denmark cost more than in the US.

It's silly to demand perfection. I will put myself through hilarious amounts of bad game play and bugs if the game is good. I hold Far Cry 2 as one of the best games of the last 5 years, but good grief is it annoying at places. But the game tried to do something different in a lot of ways and for that I love it. Hell, my favourite game these days is Shadow of Chernobyl. That's not what any sane mind would call bug free. But the game is seven shades of awesome. (Any one who disagrees should read just about everything Jim Rossignol has written on STALKER over at Rock, Paper, Shotgun.)

So I don't demand perfection. But I do like to see devs pushing things (and sometimes failing).

I'd like to make clear though: I don't like piracy (and I don't do it). I just think it's all too often an excuse for shafting the people who do pay.

So I see where you are coming from. And I imagine that you'd see more of that sense of entitlement than I do, seeing as you work for a games magazine.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

Sure, I'll probably buy it.
In a few months. When it's on sale. Like all gamers.

 

[gideonkain]

A many gigabyte file doesn't just accidentally get out of the hands of a developer -- they should be focusing on securing and identifying their own internal security leaks.

Calling it an "incomplete beta" is also kinda lame, considering games go GOLD and off to manufacturing about a month b4 release, hence the Day 1 updates and addons.

 

[brazuca]

A game gone gold leaks in the internet generating a lot of media coverage. An unknown thief still at large, Crytek says "please dont pirate this one like before"? Uh? Publicity stunt anyone?! Well my copy will be legit, but only in xmas. Gonna save me some money now. Put like 250 US dollars to buy games on steam sales.

 

[geizr]

This may be off-topic, but, you know, reading some of the comments about how people won't buy the game until it becomes significantly cheaper brings a question in my mind whether AAA gaming is sustainable. It costs a lot of money to make these games as big(or long), complex, and graphically detailed as they are, and if the developer/publisher is discounting the game in response to poor sales, that usually means they are simply trying to get as many sales as possible to cut loses. Maybe they will get lucky with the cheaper price to obtain enough volume on sales to balance things out and still make a profit, but that seems a long shot. If the developer/publisher is repeatedly absorbing such loses with no means to counteract(say, by diversifying to other, less costly games), then it seems to me they are left with only two choices, stop making such games or stop making games altogether(they go out-of-business). Piracy seems to only exacerbate the problem.

 

[Danpascooch]

Do these people know what a petition is? This isn't a petition

They're putting their names down and showing support.

Whether it's a petition or not (you can class it as a petition against the pirates) is irrelevant.

I won't pirate it, but I'm not planning on buying it either. Crytek has done perilously little to prove to me this isn't another consolized shooter.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/crysis-2-crysis-2/710533

All the gameplay elements of the first, with a stronger focus on narrative and a prettier PC version - what more do you want, exactly?

They've not stripped anything out.

How is it irrelevant? I was just saying it's stupid to call this a petition because it's not a petition, I didn't say that influenced whether I think it's a good idea to do this or not. What exactly is my post irrelevant to? It's not like at the front of this thread it was stated we can only talk about whether we support this or not. I just thought I'd point out that this isn't a petition.

Petition ?noun
1.
a formally drawn request, often bearing the names of a number of those making the request, that is addressed to a person or group of persons in authority or power, soliciting some favor, right, mercy, or other benefit: a petition for clemency; a petition for the repeal of an unfair law.
2.
a request made for something desired, especially a respectful or humble request, as to a superior or to one of those in authority; a supplication or prayer: a petition for aid; a petition to god for courage and strength.
3.
something that is sought by request or entreaty: to receive one's full petition.

This isn't a request, it's a pledge not a petition.

Whether my post is stupid or not is up to you, but it's not irrelevant, it's about the article after all.

 

[Woodsey]

Do these people know what a petition is? This isn't a petition

They're putting their names down and showing support.

Whether it's a petition or not (you can class it as a petition against the pirates) is irrelevant.

I won't pirate it, but I'm not planning on buying it either. Crytek has done perilously little to prove to me this isn't another consolized shooter.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/crysis-2-crysis-2/710533

All the gameplay elements of the first, with a stronger focus on narrative and a prettier PC version - what more do you want, exactly?

They've not stripped anything out.

How is it irrelevant? I was just saying it's stupid to call this a petition because it's not a petition, I didn't say that influenced whether I think it's a good idea to do this or not. What exactly is my post irrelevant to? It's not like at the front of this thread it was stated we can only talk about whether we support this or not. I just thought I'd point out that this isn't a petition.

Petition ?noun
1.
a formally drawn request, often bearing the names of a number of those making the request, that is addressed to a person or group of persons in authority or power, soliciting some favor, right, mercy, or other benefit: a petition for clemency; a petition for the repeal of an unfair law.
2.
a request made for something desired, especially a respectful or humble request, as to a superior or to one of those in authority; a supplication or prayer: a petition for aid; a petition to god for courage and strength.
3.
something that is sought by request or entreaty: to receive one's full petition.

This isn't a request, it's a pledge not a petition.

Whether my post is stupid or not is up to you, but it's not irrelevant, it's about the article after all.

I said whether it's a petition or not is irrelevant, not your post, fucking hell.

Petition sites are just the easiest way to do this, and you could argue that they're petitioning against the pirating of the game anyway - even if that's not what's written in the pledge.

 

[Thedayrecker]

Too bad it's not a game worth buying (IMO)