Peaceful World of Warcraft Player Hits Max Level Without Kills

[The_ModeRazor]

That's... quite nutty. Congratulations and stay the fuck away from me, lady.

 

[jpblade666]

If it can be done it will be done, simple as that. Kudos for doing somthing no one had done before . I don't even like WoW and I'm impressed

 

[mew4ever23]

Wow. That's quite the feat. Not killing anything, no quests, just leveling without killing anything. I wonder what she plans to do with the druid - keep it's kill record pristine, or engage in end-game content like a normal 85?

 

[Catalyst6]

Ten bucks says that this Everbloom person is actually Hideo Kojima...or Vash the Stampede.

Not the first one, of course. After all, if you do nothing but run around picking flowers and screaming about The Patriots and the war economy then you'll get declared a bot in no time flat.

...actually, that might be a fun bot to make.

OT: Cool idea, I've heard of people trying this before. But cripe, there isn't much XP to harvesting... she must have had an Everquest-level grind.

 

[Dr. Pepper Unlimited]

That's...that's so much time. I can't even imagine.

I give this player props for completing it and sticking it all out. That's an ungodly amount of dedication right there.

 

[Eldarion]

I wonder if its still possible to get to max level only killing boars......

 

[MGlBlaze]

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I am older than you therefore I'm your elder.
How can we be discussing societies views on something if you've been diagnosed with a disorder which means you will suffer with problems in social interaction? A paraplegic from birth can't talk about the wonders of running...This makes any debate with you entirely futile and irrelevant. This isn't an ad hominem but a hard truth.

For that I have only your word. Regardless, you being older or younger holds absolutely no meaning to me.

Also; it is Ad Hominem as you have, rather than actually made arguments to defeat my own arguments, immediately pointed to a disorder I have and says that, without any basis whatsoever, renders my points irrelavent.

Also; drawing a simile with someone with a physical disability holds no ground. One could also argue that such an individual can talk about the wonders of running as well, as long as they have the powers of observation.

You also appear to be attempting to distract me from your continuing inability to lay down something concrete which defends your own points or refute mine.

People will do what people do*, I will accept that, but exactly what is wrong with the way the player has chosen to enjoy themselves? And no, don't mention it being repetitive again; some people find repetitive tasks theraputic and people can set their own goals to make things fun.
*Be idiots.

And actually, looking back, another user has been kind enough to pull this from a thread on Blizzard's site;

Everbloom explains a bit more how this all happened:

I started her shortly after the xp for gathering thing came out, played her for a few days, got to about 12 or 15 and thought to myself "This is going to take forever, I'll never be the first to do this" and more or less put her on the back burner, she was my collector, I only took her out if I needed stuff for alts, or if I was watching TV on the laptop I would fly around doing archaeolgy.
Totally blown away that I was first, I keep checking this thread waiting to see a "I did this 2 months ago!!" post.
I didn't work at this 24/7 for the last 6 months, once you get the hang of it the XP (especially with rested xp) is awesome.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2353107047?page=16 post#302

Hope you don't mind, Jymm.

So, since Everbloom is a character that (it seems) was played only occasionally, it seems likely that there were enough breaks and other things in between going on to stop things getting boring as well.
Wait, this changes a few things that I wasn't anticipating. Er... Looks like that argument has kind of gone nowhere. Shit.

Although this does seem to suggest that, like I said, the player probably didn't waste a lot of time doing this. Questions about what you said also still remain; namely, how would this be needless as opposed to anything else in pretty much any game out there? Why is it not possible to find repetitive tasks fun or at least relaxing? Why did you assume this was all done at the expense of everything else?

I have also yet to hear your explanation on why avoiding and getting away from the mobs is easy - as I already explained, I'm not familiar with how a druid plays.

 

[TitsMcGee1804]

and only completed 1 quest by accident when she opened a letter that came in the (virtual) mail. She plans to do it again, but without opening her mail this time.

Im all for nerds wasting their time on wow, I did myself for a few years

this though is excessive and the woman needs to get a life what a waste of time just because you got one quest done

 

[aashell13]

this seems like it belongs in the category of things labelled 'sure, you COULD do it, but why bother?'

 

[restoshammyman]

Funny i recently thought of games you could beat without killing anything and WoW didnt sprign to mind.


Impressive?

you cant really beat the game. there is no THE END *roll credits*.

 

[MGlBlaze]

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I am older than you therefore I'm your elder.
How can we be discussing societies views on something if you've been diagnosed with a disorder which means you will suffer with problems in social interaction? A paraplegic from birth can't talk about the wonders of running...This makes any debate with you entirely futile and irrelevant. This isn't an ad hominem but a hard truth.

For that I have only your word. Regardless, you being older or younger holds absolutely no meaning to me.

Also; it is Ad Hominem as you have, rather than actually made arguments to defeat my own arguments, immediately pointed to a disorder I have and says that, without any basis whatsoever, renders my points irrelavent.

Also; drawing a simile with someone with a physical disability holds no ground. One could also argue that such an individual can talk about the wonders of running as well, as long as they have the powers of observation.

You also appear to be attempting to distract me from your continuing inability to lay down something concrete which defends your own points or refute mine.

People will do what people do*, I will accept that, but exactly what is wrong with the way the player has chosen to enjoy themselves? And no, don't mention it being repetitive again; some people find repetitive tasks theraputic and people can set their own goals to make things fun.
*Be idiots.

And actually, looking back, another user has been kind enough to pull this from a thread on Blizzard's site;

Everbloom explains a bit more how this all happened:

I started her shortly after the xp for gathering thing came out, played her for a few days, got to about 12 or 15 and thought to myself "This is going to take forever, I'll never be the first to do this" and more or less put her on the back burner, she was my collector, I only took her out if I needed stuff for alts, or if I was watching TV on the laptop I would fly around doing archaeolgy.
Totally blown away that I was first, I keep checking this thread waiting to see a "I did this 2 months ago!!" post.
I didn't work at this 24/7 for the last 6 months, once you get the hang of it the XP (especially with rested xp) is awesome.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2353107047?page=16 post#302

Hope you don't mind, Jymm.

So, since Everbloom is a character that (it seems) was played only occasionally, it seems likely that there were enough breaks and other things in between going on to stop things getting boring as well.
Wait, this changes a few things that I wasn't anticipating. Er... Looks like that argument has kind of gone nowhere. Shit.

Although this does seem to suggest that, like I said, the player probably didn't waste a lot of time doing this. Questions about what you said also still remain; namely, how would this be needless as opposed to anything else in pretty much any game out there? Why is it not possible to find repetitive tasks fun or at least relaxing? Why did you assume this was all done at the expense of everything else?

I have also yet to hear your explanation on why avoiding and getting away from the mobs is easy - as I already explained, I'm not familiar with how a druid plays.

If we are discussing the social implications of this action, how can you give an accurate reply based that you have a disorder meaning your understanding of social normality is limited? It's not an ad hominem in any way, shape or form. It's saying that you cannot discuss something you do not understand. I can't discuss Quantum Physics or the intricacies of teenage life in Germany as I have no understanding, or very limited understanding of them. Your disorder means you have problems with social skills meaning you are going to be limited on how you can discuss the social repercussions of actions.
As for the running, my example as meant to be that a paraplegic cannot talk about the wonders of actually physically running as he has never participated in the activity.
What was done was an unnecessary time sink and so monotonous that it would not be conceived as normal behaviour for the average person. The fact that if you engage in extremely repetitive activities is an indicator of disorders goes to show that such actions are not normal.
If the person needed so many items for their accounts, well again this isn't good, as it shows how long they must have been playing WoW for, once again labelling this under the 'nerd' sterotype umbrella, helping to increase the social stigma of WoW.

Yet those of us that can run almost invariably never think about it - to us, it's just something we use to get around.

And yes it as Ad Hominem as once again you point to the fact that I have Aspergers Syndrome rather than make a real argument beyond some more Argumentum ad Nauseum. I have also already stated that while there are some things I don't get, I also have far less social trouble than you seem to think I have - case in point, I have friends and we go out and do stuff together, as friends do.

If you play World of Warcraft you should know how resource-heavy some professions are. Alchemy, Inscription, Blacksmithing, Mechanics and probably some others are all very dependant on things you get from mining or herbalism - even with one production-only character it is conceivable that it would require a lot of resources. So that is potentially as little as two characters. Once again, a person can have multiple characters and still not actually put so much time into the game that their real lives begin to suffer. I'm at University, I play World of Warcraft only on the weekends, I have only been playing for a little over a month, and yet I have a paladin at level 66 with herbalism and alchemy, and a mage at level 25 with tailoring and enchanting. This is of course taking into account that I have other things to do at the weekends as well.

So tell me, do you actually play World of Warcraft? I'm starting to believe that you really don't. It would certainly explain your continuing failure to explain how escaping from the mobs would be easy and how you seem to lack knowledge on how the professions work.

Another point to counter how you say it must have been so repetitive - have you ever played a game on-and-off? As in a game that might be large, and it's something you play for a little bit every now and again and you eventually get through it? That's kind of like how the player went through the pacifist Night Elf. It wasn't a waste of time and it was unlikely to interfere with their real lives. How about games like Tetris, Bejeweled, Angry Birds or other such games? They're repetitive as all hell, but they're only meant to be quick little time-wasters. There's another potential explaination for how the player used the Night Elf.

Now, you have made so many posts constantly asserting how it MUST be boring and it MUST be abnormal and it MUST be pushing stereotypes even though very few people will likely care that another person got to level 85 but in a different way. You have yet to give any response that suggests to me that you are either in fact an intelligent human being or that you are in individual who is not merely trolling.

And this actually isn't Ad Hominem because I have also been trying to make an actual argument in addition to the insults. What I'm doing is simply being a bit rude.

 

[DeathChairOfHell]

i'd blow my brains out from boredom! that is some patience right there!

 

[Baradiel]

Very impressive. Now he should go outside and say hello to the sun!

 

[RobfromtheGulag]

This falls into the same category as beating Final Fantasy 7 sans materia, and other time sink [arguably pointless] pursuits. I can't chock this up to skill because anyone could do it with little more than a novice's understanding of the game. It just takes obscene amounts of time.

I guess the one thing to be said is she/he really likes WoW.

 

[MGlBlaze]

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If you have never ran, you can't comment on it. I'm failing to see how you can actually make that more complex than it is.
If you have a disorder that causes difficulties in social understanding, how can you comment on the effect an action will have socially?
To use so many resources to get someone to level 85, the person must have been spending an absurd amount of time on WoW, helping reinforce negative sterotypes. Yes I played WoW. I quit when I realised it was extremely monotonous & unchallenging, and therefore boring.
Oh wow you are being rude. Nice to see that credible cherry on the top of your argument.

It's simple, really - some social reactions are rather predictable. Others aren't, but that has nothing to do with me having Asperger's Syndrome. Can the majority of people really say that they understand how any given individual acts or will act? For that matter there are many changes in societal perceptions all over the world, and some things one finds fine another would find unthinkable (The fact that so many Americans are opposed to public health care for some reason comes to mind, though I'm not sure on how that situation has developed).
It doesn't take much to know that a lot of people succumb to pressure from those around them if enough do it, and that many people buy into things they perceive as being reliable or having some authority. Why so many people can believe something an arbitrary celebrity says or the results of the Milgram experiment, for example.

Also, it's professions that require resources, not character levels.
How long ago was it that you played World of Warcraft, also? The further back you go the less accurate your assessments will be, not only because of changes to the game over time but also because ones own opinions can become polarised and inaccurate. If you stopped playing before Cataclysm then you should know that - based on what I have heard - the game mechanics have changed significantly. Also you yourself admit that you believe the game is monotonous, unchanging and boring which is fair enough, but you come across as being unable to accept that other people might find the game fun or relaxing in spite of the 'monotony', which is behaviour that can frequently be seen in various 'Hate-doms'. A significant number of people in fact, looking at how many people play WoW. They are no less entitled to their own opinions of the game than you are. The problem is that you appear to be holding your own opinion as fact.

Which offers one probable explanation for why you are so doggedly repeating how repetitive and boring it must have been and then drawing a conclusion from that in which there must be something wrong with the player - though it does not explain your apparent refusal to consider that the person did not waste a lot of time and let their own lives suffer during the course of it all.

How are you defining an 'absurd amount of time', anyway? As opposed to what? Are we talking a couple of hours a day? If so, that is far from absurd unless the individual has A LOT of other things going on, in which case they would probably be very stressed out individuals. Also, even at a little bit every day, you said yourself that it is only a matter of time. A person can spend several months worth of time on a game and still be considered healthy if the game entertains them and they spread it out over enough time.

Any chance you're going to offer an explanation for why you say this will reinforce negative stereotypes? Who's going to care about this news? Will this event even get into standard media?

 

[Lenteja]

Why would you do that

Seriously

To prove it can be done.

now what?

 

[Jyggalag]

Hardcore. Seriously that's sick.

EDIT- I've heard that the "deathknights" start at a high level making it a lot easier to achieve. I don't actually own the game so I have no clue what it means to put in time to level up.