Peaceful World of Warcraft Player Hits Max Level Without Kills

DarkxFatal

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Jymm said:
Everbloom explains a bit more how this all happened:
I started her shortly after the xp for gathering thing came out, played her for a few days, got to about 12 or 15 and thought to myself "This is going to take forever, I'll never be the first to do this" and more or less put her on the back burner, she was my collector, I only took her out if I needed stuff for alts, or if I was watching TV on the laptop I would fly around doing archaeolgy.
Totally blown away that I was first, I keep checking this thread waiting to see a "I did this 2 months ago!!" post.
I didn't work at this 24/7 for the last 6 months, once you get the hang of it the XP (especially with rested xp) is awesome.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2353107047?page=16 post#302

I just have to quote this because I can't believe that people are still posting that she wasted 6-7 years leveling from 1-85, when there's evidence that she didn't. According to several posts in this very thread, Professions giving XP only started after Cataclysm, which only came out a few months ago.

Sure, she did play WoW for 6-7 years, but she wasn't grinding on one character for that long.

tl;dr: Read through a thread before you post.
 

Azmael Silverlance

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Axaxaaxaxaxa that is truly insane! I bet a new NPC is coming soon to salute this girl/guy!
Still damn insane...that mustve taken fordamnever.
 

MGlBlaze

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Mazty said:
MGlBlaze said:
Mazty said:
MGlBlaze said:
If you have never ran, you can't comment on it. I'm failing to see how you can actually make that more complex than it is.
If you have a disorder that causes difficulties in social understanding, how can you comment on the effect an action will have socially?
To use so many resources to get someone to level 85, the person must have been spending an absurd amount of time on WoW, helping reinforce negative sterotypes. Yes I played WoW. I quit when I realised it was extremely monotonous & unchallenging, and therefore boring.
Oh wow you are being rude. Nice to see that credible cherry on the top of your argument.
It's simple, really - some social reactions are rather predictable. Others aren't, but that has nothing to do with me having Asperger's Syndrome. Can the majority of people really say that they understand how any given individual acts or will act? For that matter there are many changes in societal perceptions all over the world, and some things one finds fine another would find unthinkable (The fact that so many Americans are opposed to public health care for some reason comes to mind, though I'm not sure on how that situation has developed).
It doesn't take much to know that a lot of people succumb to pressure from those around them if enough do it, and that many people buy into things they perceive as being reliable or having some authority. Why so many people can believe something an arbitrary celebrity says or the results of the Milgram experiment, for example.

Also, it's professions that require resources, not character levels.
How long ago was it that you played World of Warcraft, also? The further back you go the less accurate your assessments will be, not only because of changes to the game over time but also because ones own opinions can become polarised and inaccurate. If you stopped playing before Cataclysm then you should know that - based on what I have heard - the game mechanics have changed significantly. Also you yourself admit that you believe the game is monotonous, unchanging and boring which is fair enough, but you come across as being unable to accept that other people might find the game fun or relaxing in spite of the 'monotony', which is behaviour that can frequently be seen in various 'Hate-doms'. A significant number of people in fact, looking at how many people play WoW. They are no less entitled to their own opinions of the game than you are. The problem is that you appear to be holding your own opinion as fact.

Which offers one probable explanation for why you are so doggedly repeating how repetitive and boring it must have been and then drawing a conclusion from that in which there must be something wrong with the player - though it does not explain your apparent refusal to consider that the person did not waste a lot of time and let their own lives suffer during the course of it all.

How are you defining an 'absurd amount of time', anyway? As opposed to what? Are we talking a couple of hours a day? If so, that is far from absurd unless the individual has A LOT of other things going on, in which case they would probably be very stressed out individuals. Also, even at a little bit every day, you said yourself that it is only a matter of time. A person can spend several months worth of time on a game and still be considered healthy if the game entertains them and they spread it out over enough time.

Any chance you're going to offer an explanation for why you say this will reinforce negative stereotypes? Who's going to care about this news? Will this event even get into standard media?
Tl;dr
Learn to be more concise and not to repeat your points.
My original points stand. To do such a task takes a ridiculous amount of time, so much so people will label it as nerdy, harming the image of WoW.
So, how many of my posts have you not bothered reading because they were long? I've been making an effort to bring up some new things to argue against what you're saying each time, though it is kind of hard to refrain from repeating yourself if you are being ignored.

You are also a hypocrite - you criticise me for apparently repeating my points over and over when you've been doing the exact same thing the entire time, so obviously you don't think that same clause applies to you.

Your origonal 'points' don't still stand because they never got up off their asses in the first place. It has been shown repeatedly through this thread that it didn't take a 'rediculous amount of time'. Furthermore many people play World of Warcraft including 'celebrities' - two of which I'm aware of would be Mr. T and Ozzy Ozbourne. Yes, they featured in those advertisements for reasons other than a PR move by Blizzard, so I doubt it will cultivate any more of a reputation for being a 'nerd' activity than it or indeed all of gaming has right now.

Why do you care about WoW's image, anyway, if you admitted that you thought it was monotonous and boring?

What one single player has done will not have any impact whatsoever on World of Warcraft's perception among the general populace.
 

Shjade

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Nautical Honors Society said:
People do this all the time.

Just get to level 15 through professions and exploring then Queue as a healer until level 85.

In my book healing allies while they kill enemies isn't killing enemies
It's enabling killing enemies, therefore making you just as responsible for their deaths as the people hacking away at their bodies.

Doesn't wash.

This is a nifty trial and all, but I have to wonder why she'd want to do it again. Okay, you proved it's possible and that's pretty awesome...but why do it all over again? It's the same exact grind as the first time: pick herbs, break rocks, dig up artifacts, repeat. What's the point of doing it more than once?
 

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She's not the first to do this. In fact with the changes in Cataclysm it's even easier to do this. In the WoW magazine they had a 3 page article of people leveling to 80 in unconventional ways and there had already been several who did it before Cata, the one I found most impressive was a warrior leveling to 80 with no gear or weapons.
 

DevilWolf47

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HA! Damn, i thought i was bad for actually going through the trouble to get Beelzemon in Digimon World Dawn. I guess DS monster gamers are still second to MMO gamers. Still, going through WoW with minimal bloodshed really is an interesting accomplishment.
 

Jymm

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I started a night Elf druid today and took a look at how it works. One thing I didn't do was NO QUESTS. I just did the ones that didn't involve killing X number of this and gather Y number of body parts.

First of all just running the character from the starting area to the docks to go to Stormwind I made level 2. Then I found out you can get mining and herbalism at level 2. So most of the time I spent was spotting nodes looking for mobs I might aggro waiting for them to clear then scooting in gather and retreat.. The Night Elf Shadowmeld ability came in handy a lot. I decided to get a few quests in SW and then went of to the starting areas for the Humans and Draenei. Spent a couple of hours on Azuremyst Isle and before I knew it I was level 5.

The feel for leveling this way for was almost a stealth type of avoidance type game play. But obviously my "stealth" was just not getting close enough to attract the attention of mobs. What also helped was Lifeblood that I got from herbalism.
Killed zero mobs and critters.
Died once trying to do "A Small Start" quest from Admiral Odesyus. :)

Will I continue with this character? Maybe for a while and then I don't know.
 

MGlBlaze

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Mazty said:
MGlBlaze said:
What was done was a)pointless and therefore b)it's going to be regarded as nerdy.
This person has proven nothing and merely damaged the image of WoW.
Wow, you're like a broken record.

The fact that the player found it an interesting experience shows that it wasn't pointless. Perhaps you could argue that the time would have been better spent on other more productive things, but the case would almost certainly be that if it wasn't used on this 'pointless' persuit then it would have been used on a different 'pointless' persuit. People do not generally use their leisure time for work.

Also, even if it is going to be regarded as nerdy; so what? A lot of us use 'nerd' as a badge of honour or a compliment, and a lot of people considered computer games as a whole to be nerdy until quite recently. Perhaps it even still happens. More reasons why it won't matter; in the face of the gaming culture (I don't use the term ironically, though perhaps I should sometimes) as a whole, this event is just ripple - especially to anyone outside the gaming culture, who probably won't even hear of it - and will almost certainly be forgotten after a while except for a few comparitively small groups of people.

It could also be argued more cynically that, if those steriotypes you kept badgering on before about are as deeply ingrained as you made them out to be, there's no way in hell that WoW's reputation is going to get worse than it already is.

Also;
Brother-Link said:
She's not the first to do this. In fact with the changes in Cataclysm it's even easier to do this. In the WoW magazine they had a 3 page article of people leveling to 80 in unconventional ways and there had already been several who did it before Cata, the one I found most impressive was a warrior leveling to 80 with no gear or weapons.
Thank you for posting this - I had no idea similar things were done before. It's a little disappointing to me that the pacifist level-cap isn't quite the feat I thought it was before, but still, it's interesting to see player creativity in something that is often criticised for being repetitive.

Anyway, back to Mazty;
People have already leveled up in unconventional (and sometimes absurd) was before? How many people have heard of these before now? I certainly haven't. This further suggests that (at least to any non-gamers, probably to quite a few gamers as well) this new event is going to matter about as much as a boolean variable used for absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. I.E. it won't matter.

People also go to various other rediculous lengths in games all the time - some bonus bosses in RPGs come to mind, or the people who insist on completing their Pokedex's, people doing speedruns, people doing very hard games with 0 deaths on file, people exploring to find glitches, people figuring out quirks in game mechanics, people who like to just 100% everything, various other Self Imposed Challenges [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SelfImposedChallenge]... the list goes on.

And when's the last time you remember hearing about one of these many individuals that damaged the game in question? Or gaming as a whole for any great length of time?

I'm willing to bet you'll be hard-pressed to outside of those stories about mostly-asian players being super-obsessed, playing for some rediculous length of time solid and ending up dying because of exhaustion, though even those stories don't seem to have had that great an impact.

Quot Erat Demonstrandum.
 

Yureina

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Hah.... she looks like my night elf character. The difference here, of course, is that my elf was a murderous psychopath. XD