people drive person to suicide for not drawing characters right.

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

Haven't clicked on links, due to them only being twitter and tumblr, instead of...oh I dunno, a news source. Many emotionally troubled people on social media use it for their "last" message, when they decide on an attempt. I used to be one of those, and yes, it is an embarrassment to remember. OP seems to be reaching far for some agenda here...can't quite put my grubby little depressed finger on it. Either way, she requires emotional help, talks, councelling, psychological assessment, she certainly should not to be used as a tool for a barely veiled attempt at fuelling some flame wars.

I didn't want to do that, that's why I said I didn't want to turn this into a sjw bloodbath, I just wanted to talk about Online harassment and how I'm sick of it

 

[Lightspeaker]

I think that, and you might disagree with this, everyone who tries to commit suicide for whatever reason is not fully mentally sane.

So today I learned from the internet that having depression is considered being insane. Cool.

Call it "mentally healthy", and the point still stands.

You don't go from a perfectly healthy, functioning member of society to suicidal after a few people write nasty things to you over the internet.

Mental health isn't equivalent to sanity. Its just factually not the same thing. You can have some pretty serious mental health issues and still be perfectly sane.

 

[Bobic]

I think that, and you might disagree with this, everyone who tries to commit suicide for whatever reason is not fully mentally sane.

So today I learned from the internet that having depression is considered being insane. Cool.

Call it "mentally healthy", and the point still stands.

You don't go from a perfectly healthy, functioning member of society to suicidal after a few people write nasty things to you over the internet.

Mental health isn't equivalent to sanity. Its just factually not the same thing. You can have some pretty serious mental health issues and still be perfectly sane.

While it may not 'factually' be the same thing, it's probably worth giving the guy the benefit of the doubt, and assuming he was just using 'mentally ill' and 'not entirely sane' interchangeably. Which, again, is incorrect, I just browsed wikipedia's 'insanity' article to double check, but, it's more of a genuine mistake in word definitions than any actual ill meaning judgement. So, it'd probably be best to politely correct and move on.

And for the sake of openness, I'm trying to be polite, and defuse an argument, and I hope I came off that way. I used to suffer from pretty heavy depression (not-insane), with a side order of psychosis (very much insane), and it was certainly the depression that came miles closer to killing me off, regardless of sanity.

 

[cleric of the order]

Do you blame 8Chan? 4Chan? Reddit?

please don't assocaite me with reddit.

Which other platforms do you blame for the actions of some people on it?

Let me again reiterate that I believe the system created for tumblr is conducive for this manner of egoism, far outside of plebit and any chan.
Yes anonymous image boards are conducive towards a different kind of ugliness but there ugliness is expected for a place that doesn't try to make itself good.

Lets not act like Tumblr is mostly crazy SJW's.

from what I know there is a shop lifting fandom and over shit like that.
I mena if that shit is par for the course there is more autists over there than on my slice of the internet.

Tumblr is mostly teens and mom's showing pictures of their shit and food.

Aren't there over sites for that?
Like legitimately dedicated or well known for that.
I thought tumblr was like 4chan 40% porn
40 people examine things within their interests good or bad
10-20 radical poltical ideas
The difference is the /pol/ folks do crazy shit for humor's sake not a mistaken some prig notion of good. And to date I don't think anyone besides /b/ has killed anyone. Mind you a guy that was convinced to flush a live grenade.....
But it is a conundrum each site has their own manner of acting as per their meduim.
In 4chan i literally cannot blame the people on it for an action unless it is nebulous or they use a tripcode/name.
but with tumblr these people have blogs, identities and followers linked to their actions and yet toxicity still exists.

Reddit is mostly people talking about nothing.

I agree

4Chan is a cesspool.

Untrue, /b/ is a cesspool, other boards are okay on a case by case basis. Back in the day /tg/ was the shit man.
The rest is just your opinion man.
Also food for thought, i have had more shit slung at me in this website which has far more restrictions on your methods of speech than 4chan. And yes i can get somewhat crass on 4chan. like everyone else.
As long as you are smart, polite when you need to be and humble when you need to be not much will happen, beside an occasional "fucking idiot" directed towards you.
Also if you do ever plan on going there Lurk. see how people behave, talk and the like so you don't sound like NEW.

8Chan is where people go to see things that are only technically legal.

no.
It isn't
But thanks for implicating me in semi illegal shit man.
Many of us were just sick of the mods on 4chan, who have sucked for a while and suck even harder now.
Unless you consider freedom from data mining to be only technically legal
I go to the /tg/ because there are no quest, sjw-mra-plebbit-tumblr fights, shitty mods, shitty generals, quests or quests. (the following list is representational of how much quests used to make up the board before i left).
I go to /tg/ to talk rpgs, table top traditional games, etc.
Nothing with grey legacy
And I know many poeple do too.
the /v/igrins and /pol/ folks (who are a biggest boards) do it to be free of the mods.
Monster is there so it can post it's writing.
/sp/ is there to Shit Post (we still bros sp)
/x/ sucks
/fring sucks/
The boards about porn are often legal barring the two you'd indicate and btw those are the smallre boards of the ones that have traffic.
4getexists to get gets from 4chan
frankly everything but b and the two pedo boards are frankly no more legal than 4chan.
And considering Fredrick has kept the rule to be no illegal stuff those two don't have much teeth.
I think /b/ might even have less illegal stuff than 4chan because of it's smaller size.

look man, believe what you want, but you are frankly wrong here.

Everyone knows this shit.

Everyone's an idiot my friend.
when you get the sum total of human intelligence you do not get anything more than the lowest common denominator.

 

[cleric of the order]

1.guys let's stop pretending this is someone else's problem. This is everyone's problem, and things aren't going to get better until we knowledge that

I'm sorry but i have no power over this problem, it is not from a community i frequent and even if it was i would have no power to sway my fellow anons.
do not shove this on me.
Furthermore if you believe that we do hve the power, i'd like you to go to my fellow anons and say so. See how that turns out.

2.the same thing happened on 4Chan a while back(I forget the incident was) so I don't see how this proves 4cahn/8chan is the better entity.

There were a numbler o cases but some of them were frankly Darwinian.
A man flushed a grenade. He took /b/s advice and flushed a grenade.

3. I don't think acknowledging that you're a douche bag means that it's okay to be a douche bag.

No but it means you have less justification for your actions when compared to the prigs that say they are doing it for the greater good.

Spoiler: 4chan meets tumblr

I'm not talking about being the fun Crossing the line twice douche bag. I mean the people who laugh over someone committing suicide douche bag.

I don't remember my board ever doing that, i could see /b/ doing it but /b/ is literally it's own separate community
This in retrospect sounds slightly more disingenuous considering an hero but that was not our site that did that or posted it, trolls brought it into our lexicon

I don't care how you justify it unless that person was Adolf Hitler or a school shooter you can go Fuck yourself.

See I'd like to see who and where the celebrations took place.
Because in this day and age we could not get away with that.
After a handful of anons left tumblr a wreck, gawker's been up Jewts ass and he removed a number of mods lots of them to the social progressive sides of things.
The type that ban people in pol for their speech. (I mean it's pol, pol is that sort of place)

Eitherway this ain't our problem anymore.
This is the second time tumblr's done this recently over SU
And the first was that energetic Gashi-Gashi and his colour palate for garnet (which was how Japanese people apparently colour that demographic)
See like this shit doesn't happen where I'm from because we don't give a fuck.
This is ideological
this is destroying wrong think (because they are well known for changing the size, shape, race, sex or gender of the characters they wish to when it suits their ideology)
And it's going to keep happening until they either scare people into doing what they want.

AND YOU KNOW FUCKING WHAT M8.
THAT IS A FUCK TON WORSE THAN MY IMAGE BOARDS.
WE DON'T TRY FOR INTIMIDATION OR CONTROL.
WE DON'T ATTEMPT TO STRONG ARM PEOPLE'S ART
AND WE DON'T DO IT OVER SO LITTLE.
we have a dark sense of humour and a disproportionately large amount of the mentally infirm.
That is it.
And not the modstorm has put on so much safety foam that this will not happen very often again.
Take care of the sjws they actually do this alot

 

[9tailedflame]

This is awful. Trolling is so dead at this point, i remember back when it was about having fun, not being a political douche or trying to make people kill themselves, but to create a big, confusing spectacle and make people wonder just what the hell is going on.

Plus, this just shows how hypocritical people are. People are so quick to talk crap about 4chan, which is in reality about 90% filled with a bizzare self-aware shittyness coated in who-knows how many layers or irony which is completely harmless. Meanwhile, people at tumblr are at least as vicious, and with none of the self-loathing self-awareness or irony that generally comes when dealing with 4chan. Don't get me wrong, there are legitimately shitty people on 4chan, as anywhere else, but it's an odd and complex culture that goes far beyond just a bunch of evil people trying to destroy the world like the inexperienced person might think.

It's actually really easy to tell the difference between awful harassment like this and trolling/disagreeing if you look. The problem is, nobody actually cares. Harassment is bad, yes, but the cause has never really been lauded to actually end harassment. It's always used as a way to try and garner sympathy for various groups as a part of a giant identity-politics war, and harassment needs to be treated universally, with no regard for these identity politic bullshits, if we're ever going to actually make any headway.

 

[Something Amyss]

What interests me here is that this story has no verification, but there's a lot of dogpiling going on here. The dogpiling doesn't seem too terribly different from the attitude that led to this alleged suicide, which people are ostensibly against. I'm kind of seeing a problem here. Well, a couple.

1.guys let's stop pretending this is someone else's problem. This is everyone's problem, and things aren't going to get better until we knowledge that

In a nutshell. The problem is, tribalism is a very powerful thing and very pervasive within our culture. Liberal v conservative. Sox v Yankees (insert your own local feud/sport here). Hell, even Coke v Pepsi (when we all know RC Cola is superior!). Or the fights this and other gaming sites feature over what platform you play your games on. Us v "the other."

The reality is, I expect the internet to be a lagging indicator here.

Either way, "eye for an eye" and "it's okay when we do it" are seriously old school, and not easily done away with.

Either way, she requires emotional help, talks, councelling, psychological assessment, she certainly should not to be used as a tool for a barely veiled attempt at fuelling some flame wars.

And yes, that's the other bit. There's a human getting lost in all this. And more like that one.

 

[9tailedflame]

1.guys let's stop pretending this is someone else's problem. This is everyone's problem, and things aren't going to get better until we knowledge that

I'm sorry but i have no power over this problem, it is not from a community i frequent and even if it was i would have no power to sway my fellow anons.
do not shove this on me.
Furthermore if you believe that we do hve the power, i'd like you to go to my fellow anons and say so. See how that turns out.

2.the same thing happened on 4Chan a while back(I forget the incident was) so I don't see how this proves 4cahn/8chan is the better entity.

There were a numbler o cases but some of them were frankly Darwinian.
A man flushed a grenade. He took /b/s advice and flushed a grenade.

3. I don't think acknowledging that you're a douche bag means that it's okay to be a douche bag.

No but it means you have less justification for your actions when compared to the prigs that say they are doing it for the greater good.

Spoiler: 4chan meets tumblr

I'm not talking about being the fun Crossing the line twice douche bag. I mean the people who laugh over someone committing suicide douche bag.

I don't remember my board ever doing that, i could see /b/ doing it but /b/ is literally it's own separate community
This in retrospect sounds slightly more disingenuous considering an hero but that was not our site that did that or posted it, trolls brought it into our lexicon

I don't care how you justify it unless that person was Adolf Hitler or a school shooter you can go Fuck yourself.

See I'd like to see who and where the celebrations took place.
Because in this day and age we could not get away with that.
After a handful of anons left tumblr a wreck, gawker's been up Jewts ass and he removed a number of mods lots of them to the social progressive sides of things.
The type that ban people in pol for their speech. (I mean it's pol, pol is that sort of place)

Eitherway this ain't our problem anymore.
This is the second time tumblr's done this recently over SU
And the first was that energetic Gashi-Gashi and his colour palate for garnet (which was how Japanese people apparently colour that demographic)
See like this shit doesn't happen where I'm from because we don't give a fuck.
This is ideological
this is destroying wrong think (because they are well known for changing the size, shape, race, sex or gender of the characters they wish to when it suits their ideology)
And it's going to keep happening until they either scare people into doing what they want.

AND YOU KNOW FUCKING WHAT M8.
THAT IS A FUCK TON WORSE THAN MY IMAGE BOARDS.
WE DON'T TRY FOR INTIMIDATION OR CONTROL.
WE DON'T ATTEMPT TO STRONG ARM PEOPLE'S ART
AND WE DON'T DO IT OVER SO LITTLE.
we have a dark sense of humour and a disproportionately large amount of the mentally infirm.
That is it.
And not the modstorm has put on so much safety foam that this will not happen very often again.
Take care of the sjws they actually do this alot

So much this. 4chan has never been evil, not even /b/ imo, it's at worst been the imageboard equivalent of a ridiculous orgy. Sure, bad shit might go down, but it's just a byproduct of all the fun everyone is trying to have, and the anonymous nature of the place.

Tumblr (or more fairly i suppose, the SJW side of tumblr) meanwhile, is the internet cultural equivalent of the third reich. They have an idea of what race is the correct or incorrect race to be, they have and idea of what speech or art are "acceptable" and which should be censored, and hey have an image of the race that is evil and needs to be eliminated (the straight cis white male is their equivilant of hitler's jew).

 

[9tailedflame]

This is awful. Trolling is so dead at this point, i remember back when it was about having fun, not being a political douche or trying to make people kill themselves, but to create a big, confusing spectacle and make people wonder just what the hell is going on.

Plus, this just shows how hypocritical people are. People are so quick to talk crap about 4chan, which is in reality about 90% filled with a bizzare self-aware shittyness coated in who-knows how many layers or irony which is completely harmless. Meanwhile, people at tumblr are at least as vicious, and with none of the self-loathing self-awareness or irony that generally comes when dealing with 4chan. Don't get me wrong, there are legitimately shitty people on 4chan, as anywhere else, but it's an odd and complex culture that goes far beyond just a bunch of evil people trying to destroy the world like the inexperienced person might think.

It's actually really easy to tell the difference between awful harassment like this and trolling/disagreeing if you look. The problem is, nobody actually cares. Harassment is bad, yes, but the cause has never really been lauded to actually end harassment. It's always used as a way to try and garner sympathy for various groups as a part of a giant identity-politics war, and harassment needs to be treated universally, with no regard for these identity politic bullshits, if we're ever going to actually make any headway.

Trolling has always been the same, you probably just grew up.

No, it really hasn't.

Making african-american avatars with grey-suits and giant afros for habbo hotel, and flooding the little game with an absurd amount of these identical characters, while spouting weird inside jokes and memes, that's trolling.

Getting enough people to turn justin bieber's world tour poll to vote north korea as the winning country, that's trolling.

These things are 100% harmless, nobody kills themselves, at worst a server breaks down from too much traffic, regular traffic, not ddos.

Just because 99% of people don't know how to do it, doesn't mean it can't be done, or that it's inherently something else, but becuase it's such an esoteric culture, it becomes an easy whipping-boy target for people to prop up their dumb politics.

 

[cleric of the order]

Perhaps it's the sites I frequent, but it's quite the opposite. I've never once heard a single positive word from anyone about Tumblr.

I meant to characterize the nature of the people preforming these actions.
When /pol/ or /b/ is doing something to fuck with people they go, this will be fucking funny.
When tumblr does it's wildly different.
Sjws getting mad and directing their anger where it has to be directed. It is characteristic of people that love to take offense and we are people who like to offend. Funny that.

The most I've heard, and a sentiment I share based on my limited experience with the site, is that it's a harmless generalist website wherein you generally get exposed to exactly what you go looking for.

It's also a blogging site in the case of tumblr, that's important for reasons.

I hear seething condemnation of it routinely...here, on Reddit, on Imgur, generally anywhere 20 somethings congregate in large numbers to shoot the shit.

Fuck reddit.

4Chan is almost universally celebrated.

well if you don't go to 4chan then you are getting the fucking edgy NEW. there's a reason why we've been calling this the eternal summer.

Oh sure, it's acknowledged as being the asshole of the internet, but in a wink-wink, "we own that reputation", half-fond sort of way.

We don't actually do it. I know some boards like my own hate it because there have been a bunch ofs shitty new members drawn in because of it.
Post quality is down bro.

Their misdeeds are endlessly characterized as harmless monkeyshines, or excused off-hand because they were the product of a search for lulz, rather than genuine conviction.

that is actually true.
When we have conviction shit gets done.
And sometimes we have conviction and fucking do it for the lulz too.
Humour is the basis for a lot of the site's early actions, something we inherited from the SA goons that came over.
A lot of our early stock was made up of the least autistic SA goons you know.
So a lot of our actions were carried out to do thing for the sake of humour.
The sum total of 4chan is that we are nihilists
WHERE IN GODS NAME DO YOU THINK THE PHRASE NOT YOUR PERSONAL ARMY CAME FROM

They're glorified and celebrated and presented as zero-guff frontiersmen full of infinite wit and a dashing disregard for the stuffiest social norms.

The fuck do you frequent to get that idea?
WE call ourselves neck bearded autists
fucking wastiods.
r9k calls themselves robots for their social deformity.
The people that you hang out with are NEW
ignore them.

So I see one website with a SERIOUS hero-complex, and a second website that is a generic catchall.

See the problem here is that when i read what you say i see Tumblr on the left and 4chan on the right.
and that's an issue because those statements could through your reasoning and mine be applied to both.
4chan is a generalist thing, we have boards for different interests and we handle it that way.
tumblr on the over hand is a mircoblogging site where people can actually dress up and act like a hero. there are persons that can primp and preen and be prigs.

Which makes it quite convenient, since people can easily find any bogeyman they care to when they go searching for it.

I don't know man.
I don't see otherkin on other websites yet.
Sjws are only coming into 4chan and reddit now.
when someone draws a character differently than normal 4chan they edit it and send it right back at the owner to piss them off (there was actually a large initiative to do that on one of the boards and they'd been shit posting around)
it's that simple really.
tumblr goes on a crusade, 4chan laughs and mocks them.

 

[cleric of the order]

1.guys let's stop pretending this is someone else's problem. This is everyone's problem, and things aren't going to get better until we knowledge that

In a nutshell. The problem is, tribalism is a very powerful thing and very pervasive within our culture. Liberal v conservative. Sox v Yankees (insert your own local feud/sport here). Hell, even Coke v Pepsi (when we all know RC Cola is superior!). Or the fights this and other gaming sites feature over what platform you play your games on. Us v "the other."

No.
This isn't my problem.
That is half the point of 4chan, we are a collective of persons.
And we keep the latter.
we are not anyone's personal army as the old saying we created goes.
We by nature.
1) cannot target wrong thinking individuals in our community to remove them
2) have no power over the individual actions of our members
3) ain't a fucking bloging site
And the moment you try to clean up 4chan is the moment everyone laughs or shits on you.
It ain't my problem and it's not one anything but major internet restrictions can fix.

 

[9tailedflame]

This is awful. Trolling is so dead at this point, i remember back when it was about having fun, not being a political douche or trying to make people kill themselves, but to create a big, confusing spectacle and make people wonder just what the hell is going on.

Plus, this just shows how hypocritical people are. People are so quick to talk crap about 4chan, which is in reality about 90% filled with a bizzare self-aware shittyness coated in who-knows how many layers or irony which is completely harmless. Meanwhile, people at tumblr are at least as vicious, and with none of the self-loathing self-awareness or irony that generally comes when dealing with 4chan. Don't get me wrong, there are legitimately shitty people on 4chan, as anywhere else, but it's an odd and complex culture that goes far beyond just a bunch of evil people trying to destroy the world like the inexperienced person might think.

It's actually really easy to tell the difference between awful harassment like this and trolling/disagreeing if you look. The problem is, nobody actually cares. Harassment is bad, yes, but the cause has never really been lauded to actually end harassment. It's always used as a way to try and garner sympathy for various groups as a part of a giant identity-politics war, and harassment needs to be treated universally, with no regard for these identity politic bullshits, if we're ever going to actually make any headway.

Trolling has always been the same, you probably just grew up.

No, it really hasn't.

Making african-american avatars with grey-suits and giant afros for habbo hotel, and flooding the little game with an absurd amount of these identical characters, while spouting weird inside jokes and memes, that's trolling.

Getting enough people to turn justin bieber's world tour poll to vote north korea as the winning country, that's trolling.

These things are 100% harmless, nobody kills themselves, at worst a server breaks down from too much traffic, regular traffic, not ddos.

Just because 99% of people don't know how to do it, doesn't mean it can't be done, or that it's inherently something else, but becuase it's such an esoteric culture, it becomes an easy whipping-boy target for people to prop up their dumb politics.

You can always cherry pick the "good old days", but it's just nostalgia. The debates over trolling today are identical to old ones, right down to the suicide debate. You can try to 'No True Scotsman' trolling too, but that just doesn't work. Trolls have always mostly been dysfunctional children acting out, with a smattering of dysfunctional teens and adults doing the same.

Idk, i feel like it comes from a totally different mental place. I mean the damage can be more-or-less identical, but the mindset of "lolol these people have no idea wtf is going on" is radically different from "GRR I HATE THIS PERSON THEY NEED TO DIE!!". Oversimplifying things never solved anything is my point, and i do feel like you're oversimplifying things.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Snip

This isn't a criticism, and I'm not even sure you're aware you're doing it, but this is exactly what I'm talking about.

Even the deprecation is self-congratulatory. Everything you're saying is an argument for why 4Chan is awesome and Tumblr is shite.

As I don't subscribe to these ridiculous website slap and tickle wars, I don't have an opinion either way. All I'm saying is I'm constantly getting 4Chan users proselytizing about why their website is The Best, and I've never heard from ANYONE who even IDENTIFIES as a "Tumblrite". I wouldn't even know such a person existed if the Channers and Redditors and Imgurites and Escapists could ever shut up about them.

 

[cleric of the order]

You're a random collection of people with no unifying principles that aren't post hoc. Please stop preaching.

God that's actually somewhat funny in retrospect, sleep dep is onhellava drug.
Still as far as I understand ain't my problem.
Ain't 4chan's either.

This isn't a criticism, and I'm not even sure you're aware you're doing it, but this is exactly what I'm talking about.

you responded to me, I responded to you.
You said that this was your preservative as someone from the outside so i gave an insider's perspective.
But the attribution of bias I believe to me seems a bit unfair.
or at least that's what I was trying to scrub free when i mentioned quite blatantly our social problems
that isn't a good thing, that isn't an untrue thing and that isn't some wink wink bad thing either.
Someone or many people actually said that 4chan is the most autistic place on the internet and that's fucking true
it has some fucked up people, and not just in the sociopathic sections.
It has some serious social untouchables from racists to flat out neonazis
The mods are fucked, we have datamining problems and the like.
I understand if you think my general disdain for tumblr is me pushing out great 4chan is but seriously. I hate Tumblr more than 4chan, I dislike 4chan as a rule of thumb, i left that pile of autism

Even the deprecation is self-congratulatory. Everything you're saying is an argument for why 4Chan is awesome and Tumblr is shite.

No it isn't again I seriously meant there is some fucked up shit here.
We have some pretty fucking weird shit.

All I'm saying is I'm constantly getting 4Chan users proselytizing about why their website is The Best, and I've never heard from ANYONE who even IDENTIFIES as a "Tumblrite".

And I don't go to reddit or imgur.

I wouldn't even know such a person existed if the Channers and Redditors and Imgurites and Escapists could ever shut up about them.

I disagree there will always be a term for a community
though i think there is a kernel of truth there.
they would likely just filed under the social justice blanket term because in all honesty that's what the term is meant to be more or less.
But the breed of JS community there is different.
you see otherkin and the like there so in the very least you will have to have some name for that species.

They need some excuse for their bad behavior, some totem for their lack of a cause.

I'd like to see more of that logic there friend

 

[Erttheking]

I love how people assume that Tumblr as a website is "a problem" yet when people shit on 4chan the response is "omg it's only /b/ and /pol/ that are bad!" Please.

Just hypothesizing, but it's probably because the 4chan mob freely admits to being a bunch of assholes, whereas the tumblr equivalent keeps trying to claim to be on the side of good. Not justifying /b's actions in the slightest, but moral hypocrisy does tend to rile people up more than being a dick for the sake of being a dick.

If that's all there is to it, then the SJW witch hunters are really getting hung up on trivial matters.

OT: Great. Just great. Someone nearly killed themselves and we're turning it into an SJW matter. For. FUCK'S! SAKE! Yes, some people take criticism of the depiction of women, ethnic minorities and sexual minorities way too far, there I said it, are you happy now? This is a universal problem though. MRA activists do it, Republicans do it, Liberals do it, everyone who is an asshole about how great they think they opinion is does it, gamers do it (No one would EVER suggest that gamers bullying someone and telling them to commit suicide was a sign of problems with gamers, oh no, NEVER!) because it's a problem with online culture and human beings generally sucking. We have a lack of empathy towards others online and demonize people who disagree with us.

Focusing on Social Justice right now is completely and utterly missing the fucking point.

 

[Erttheking]

Tumblr (or more fairly i suppose, the SJW side of tumblr) meanwhile, is the internet cultural equivalent of the third reich.

Do they advocate for mass genocide? Do they advocate for one master race? No, they don't. And please. Show me the extermination of the straight white male that's being talked about seriously in massive amounts of numbers. Because most people don't advocate for extermination that results in the extinction of the human race. Oh, also, hundreds of thousands of feminists on Tumblr noted this post that calls out misandry. I doubt you ever looked for anything like that because you made up your mind that Tumblr feminists hated men.

http://kitkatinahat.tumblr.com/post/98452472514/ero-miki-putting-down-confident-girls-is-not

And this one

http://kitkatinahat.tumblr.com/post/89739085499/sameatschildren-co8alt-thief

I know people like to play Godwin's law to stereotype people they disagree with into faceless monsters, but reality is never, nor will it ever be, that simple.

 

[Adeptus Aspartem]

So today I learned from the internet that having depression is considered being insane. Cool.

Somehow I don't think you're an actually qualified psychologist though. Because you don't seem to have a clue what you're talking about.

Well, i have/had depression too and maybe callin' it "not mentally sane" is a tad harsh but it's definitly "mentally ill". Jeah, there are stupid stigmata attached to havin' psychological problems but sugar-coating it won't help either.
If you've depressions, you're a mentally/psychological ill person.

 

[Rastrelly]

Trolling has always been the same, you probably just grew up.

Nope, trolling is trolling, and harassment is harassment. Trolling was about cunning and thread terrorism. It was leading to rage, not depression. Mostly trolling was creating some funny discussions on controversial topics. This case has nothing to do with trolling. Trolling requires wit. This -whether it actually led to suicide or not - was a collective attack on a person which was made possible by implanting false ideals into people's heads which conrain to few brainmass to comprehend those ideals are false.

 

[Lightspeaker]

So today I learned from the internet that having depression is considered being insane. Cool.

Somehow I don't think you're an actually qualified psychologist though. Because you don't seem to have a clue what you're talking about.

Well, i have/had depression too and maybe callin' it "not mentally sane" is a tad harsh but it's definitly "mentally ill". Jeah, there are stupid stigmata attached to havin' psychological problems but sugar-coating it won't help either.
If you've depressions, you're a mentally/psychological ill person.

Mental illness (which it is) is not the same thing as sanity (which is an entirely separate thing). This is something I know from reading psychology papers on the subject after being diagnosed with clinical depression myself a few years ago and having to take three months out of my work for therapy.

Its actually quite an important distinction to make, legally speaking.

 

[cleric of the order]

Your endless rambling defense and propagandizing says otherwise.

Rambling and otherwise being a blithering moron is par for the course with me
In fact it is one of my key defining traits, you find it everywhere with me.
And I did leave 4chan, you know this went to 8chan.
And while there are a lot of fucking things that make me upset about the website i believe you fellows are not giving it a fair shake.
The propagandizing seems a bit weird, having gone over my old posts i think you have to point that out.
I have problems understanding how people take my statements and as far as I understand this is untrue.
I mean I stated 4chan was filling with sjws.
I some of my arguments included with these websites being largely the same their differentiation being their medium

It's no more complex than the subject.

well I'm a simple man man and a slow one too
please if you wish to spell it out for me that would great.