I don't hate PETA because it's the "cool thing to do", I hate PETA because I honestly believe that they are some of the worst people on earth. They ran a campaign where they trivialized the holocaust. Seriously, they compared jews with animals? What the fuck? They financially supported Rodney Coronado, an arsenist and member of ALF (Animal Liberation Front). Ingrid Newkirk, founder and leader of PETA, actually called him "a fine young man". What?llafnwod said:PETA does not want animals to have the same rights as humans, and the idea behind euthanasia is that it is better for the animals to die painlessly than continue to suffer or starve to death.Trucken said:A difference between animal cruelty and animal euthanasia? Sure. But PETA, the People for Ethical Treatment of Animals KILLS animals. The organization that wants animals to have the same rights as people KILLS animals. Doesn't that make them mass murderers?llafnwod said:Some helpful reading:Trucken said:Also, it's a real fucking kicker that PETA hates Vick seeing that they themselves euthanised 1325 cats and dogs a few years ago. Dumbasses...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_euthanasia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_cruelty
My main problem with the responses in this thread is the fact that people are honestly putting aside Vick's actions, actions they self-admittedly abhor, because PETA is the group complaining is exactly the sort of cliched "Hitler was a vegetarian" bullshit I thought everyone grew out of by the seventh grade. You could make the argument that his personal life should have no bearing on whether he shows up on the cover of a game, but I doubt anyone would be if it were bums instead of dogs he was dragging off the street and torturing.
I hope.
This is an excellent prospect.gigastar said:PETA, alot of people want things, but very few among them actually get things.
Speaking of the Madden Curse, EA is supposedly making a comedy movie based on it.
Again, it doesn't make a bit of difference that PETA is the group decrying Vick's appearance on the game cover. I don't approve of PETA's practices, nor even many of their goals, either. If you're going to make an argument, you have to do so from a position other than "the people protesting this are douchebags, therefore it should happen", because despite the opinion of most people on this thread that isn't actually an argument.Trucken said:I don't hate PETA because it's the "cool thing to do", I hate PETA because I honestly believe that they are some of the worst people on earth. They ran a campaign where they trivialized the holocaust. Seriously, they compared jews with animals? What the fuck? They financially supported Rodney Coronado, an arsenist and member of ALF (Animal Liberation Front). Ingrid Newkirk, founder and leader of PETA, actually called him "a fine young man". What?llafnwod said:PETA does not want animals to have the same rights as humans, and the idea behind euthanasia is that it is better for the animals to die painlessly than continue to suffer or starve to death.Trucken said:A difference between animal cruelty and animal euthanasia? Sure. But PETA, the People for Ethical Treatment of Animals KILLS animals. The organization that wants animals to have the same rights as people KILLS animals. Doesn't that make them mass murderers?
My main problem with the responses in this thread is the fact that people are honestly putting aside Vick's actions, actions they self-admittedly abhor, because PETA is the group complaining is exactly the sort of cliched "Hitler was a vegetarian" bullshit I thought everyone grew out of by the seventh grade. You could make the argument that his personal life should have no bearing on whether he shows up on the cover of a game, but I doubt anyone would be if it were bums instead of dogs he was dragging off the street and torturing.
I hope.
Vick is no saint, he did horrible things. The difference between him and PETA is that he's trying to make good and pay for his crimes while PETA continues to terrorise and abuse people that they don't agree with.
It is, though maybe not one you like. Any decision is made by analyzing the costs and benefits. Even if you don't like Vick and see him being honored with a Madden cover as an undesirable thing, you may get enough personal enjoyment out of PETA being embarrassed or being denied their way that it outweighs it.llafnwod said:Again, it doesn't make a bit of difference that PETA is the group decrying Vick's appearance on the game cover. I don't approve of PETA's practices, nor even many of their goals, either. If you're going to make an argument, you have to do so from a position other than "the people protesting this are douchebags, therefore it should happen", because despite the opinion of most people on this thread that isn't actually an argument.
It's honestly gotten to that point. As soon as I see PETA I get pissed off.NoDamnNames said:Hmmm If anyone OTHER than PETA had pointed this out id be apt to agree, but agreeing with them would just make me feel dirty....