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sooperman

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LordMalachi said:
Actually since it has a built in fore grip it is meant to be used with 2 hands. Thus it is an SMG, with a small magazine. Whereas a machine pistol is simply a pistol (1 hand) that fires in full auto (or burst)
Steyr TMP, my good man. Two-handed machine pistol, just like this one.
Stickyreiss said:
Don't taze me bro!
You know, I tried to make a Tazer for my non-lethal line-up, but it didn't work.

This, however, is awesome. Indeed, very nice use of blending.
 

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The fore end took me about 2 hours, completely from scratch.

 

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sooperman said:
LordMalachi said:
Actually since it has a built in fore grip it is meant to be used with 2 hands. Thus it is an SMG, with a small magazine. Whereas a machine pistol is simply a pistol (1 hand) that fires in full auto (or burst)
Steyr TMP, my good man. Two-handed machine pistol, just like this one.
Wow... ok... everything I've been taught about this topic has just been proven wrong... >.< So how do you tell the difference between MP and SMG?

And here, critique this ^.^

Created for use in a contest for unconventional firing mechanisms on Flickr. So yes, I realize the concept is over done, that was the point :)

When the last round in the front mag is chambered a switch is flipped with a one shot delay so the next round fired will be using the gas tube instead of the direct blowback. (NOTE: The order shown in the picture has been deemed backwards, there would be more pressure from the gas system so the gas system shall be used for the rear mag. Just move the lil gas port explosions to the right spot in your head ;) Thank you Ryan for helping me with that)

The switch is needed to keep fire rate roughly the same between the mags as the bolt will require more force to retract to the second mag.

I will be doing a part two showing how the GL works as well ^.^

And yes Ik it has no sights. I'm focusing on the internals atm.
 

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LordMalachi said:
Wow... ok... everything I've been taught about this topic has just been proven wrong... >.< So how do you tell the difference between MP and SMG?
I always classify SMG vs. machine pistol by loading mechanism. If mags are inserted into the grip, it's a pistol, fully-auto or not. A separate magwell makes it an SMG.

The ammo size can exempt guns from this rule, but it's a safe rule of thumb.
 

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sooperman said:
LordMalachi said:
Wow... ok... everything I've been taught about this topic has just been proven wrong... >.< So how do you tell the difference between MP and SMG?
I always classify SMG vs. machine pistol by loading mechanism. If mags are inserted into the grip, it's a pistol, fully-auto or not. A separate magwell makes it an SMG.

The ammo size can exempt guns from this rule, but it's a safe rule of thumb.
It's about what kind of layout it uses. An SMG is just a rifle that uses a pistol calibre, and a machine pistol is just a complicated pistol. Compare the MP5 and the TMP.
MP5 has a rifle-style layout, and the TMP is a complex and slightly warped pistol shape.
 

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Stickyreiss said:
What series is that from and just what exactly is trigger discipline? I keep hearing on and on about it.
 
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Here we have a sniper/grenade launcher. For when you want to put a lil extra hurt on em.


Maybe I'll try an OMGWTF impractical weapon next. And yes that is a knife.
 

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NimbleJack3 said:
sooperman said:
LordMalachi said:
Wow... ok... everything I've been taught about this topic has just been proven wrong... >.< So how do you tell the difference between MP and SMG?
I always classify SMG vs. machine pistol by loading mechanism. If mags are inserted into the grip, it's a pistol, fully-auto or not. A separate magwell makes it an SMG.

The ammo size can exempt guns from this rule, but it's a safe rule of thumb.
It's about what kind of layout it uses. An SMG is just a rifle that uses a pistol calibre, and a machine pistol is just a complicated pistol. Compare the MP5 and the TMP.
MP5 has a rifle-style layout, and the TMP is a complex and slightly warped pistol shape.
Oh... ok

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Stickyreiss said:
What series is that from and just what exactly is trigger discipline? I keep hearing on and on about it.
i believe it to be the placement of the index finger in the pic. Notice where it is. I think it's "proper" position for "not firing".
I think.
 

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fromthemist said:
my shot at a Famas. best i could do with what is given.
Not bad. I like how you've noticed the bipod, because I didn't up until just now.
Try using blending and cutting bits off with white shapes to achieve a better resemblance.

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dalek sec said:
Stickyreiss said:
What series is that from and just what exactly is trigger discipline? I keep hearing on and on about it.
i believe it to be the placement of the index finger in the pic. Notice where it is. I think it's "proper" position for "not firing".
I think.
Trigger discipline is the concept that if you are not intending to fire immediately, then you finger should not even be touching the trigger. It's very important in armed, enclosed spaces like an APC or a helicopter. Ideally, your finger should be placed just like the maids' in the picture, over the trigger guard.
 

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NimbleJack3 said:
It's about what kind of layout it uses. An SMG is just a rifle that uses a pistol calibre, and a machine pistol is just a complicated pistol. Compare the MP5 and the TMP.
MP5 has a rifle-style layout, and the TMP is a complex and slightly warped pistol shape.
I'm not sure that's right. There isn't really a clear definition of what a machine pistol is or where the line is drawn; it's not just where the mag goes, since the Skorpion is generally regarded as a machine pistol despite having the mag in front of the grip like the MP5. Also, there's some contention over which category the TMP is; it's called "Tactical Machine Pistol," but it's usually classified as a compact SMG.
 

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Evil Tim said:
NimbleJack3 said:
It's about what kind of layout it uses. An SMG is just a rifle that uses a pistol calibre, and a machine pistol is just a complicated pistol. Compare the MP5 and the TMP.
MP5 has a rifle-style layout, and the TMP is a complex and slightly warped pistol shape.
I'm not sure that's right. There isn't really a clear definition of what a machine pistol is or where the line is drawn; it's not just where the mag goes, since the Skorpion is generally regarded as a machine pistol despite having the mag in front of the grip like the MP5. Also, there's some contention over which category the TMP is; it's called "Tactical Machine Pistol," but it's usually classified as a compact SMG.
Huh, I suppose you're right. The Mauser Broomhandle makes the same case as the Skorpion - It had it's magazine in the front, and not it the grip (Although it wasn't automatic).
But I'm pretty sure that the Skorpion is usually classified as an SMG. Perhaps we'll never define it, just like the battle rifle.
 

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NimbleJack3 said:
Evil Tim said:
NimbleJack3 said:
It's about what kind of layout it uses. An SMG is just a rifle that uses a pistol calibre, and a machine pistol is just a complicated pistol. Compare the MP5 and the TMP.
MP5 has a rifle-style layout, and the TMP is a complex and slightly warped pistol shape.
I'm not sure that's right. There isn't really a clear definition of what a machine pistol is or where the line is drawn; it's not just where the mag goes, since the Skorpion is generally regarded as a machine pistol despite having the mag in front of the grip like the MP5. Also, there's some contention over which category the TMP is; it's called "Tactical Machine Pistol," but it's usually classified as a compact SMG.
Huh, I suppose you're right. The Mauser Broomhandle makes the same case as the Skorpion - It had it's magazine in the front, and not it the grip (Although it wasn't automatic).
But I'm pretty sure that the Skorpion is usually classified as an SMG. Perhaps we'll never define it, just like the battle rifle.
the term "submachine gun" usually refers to larger automatic firearms scaled down from that of a full-sized machine gun, while the term "machine pistol" usually refers to a weapon built up from a semi-automatic pistol design.

A battle rifle is a military service weapon that fires a full power rifle cartridge. While the designation of battle rifle is usually given to post-World War II select fire infantry rifles such as the H&K G3, the FN FAL or the M14, this term can also apply to older military bolt-action or semi-automatic rifles such as the Mosin Nagant or the M1 Garand.

Sniper rifles are technically battle rifles with a better barrel and an optics system
assault rifles use an intermediate cartridge
 

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Stickyreiss said:
the term "submachine gun" usually refers to larger automatic firearms scaled down from that of a full-sized machine gun, while the term "machine pistol" usually refers to a weapon built up from a semi-automatic pistol design.
Yeah, I checked Wikipedia too, but that's even worse as a definition since you're not going to find an SMG in the world that's a scaled down machine gun, though some (UMP, MP5, MP7) are scaled down assault rifle actions.

It's not really a helpful definition since most of the examples that fall in the middle aren't scaled-up or scaled-down versions of anything. There's also reverse cases like the compact Uzis, machine pistols which are scaled-down SMGs.

The one for battle rifle is even worse since last I checked every definition I'd found offline was that a battle rifle had to be at least semi-automatic while firing a full-sized rifle round, with most specifying the weapon as initially designed be select-fire; the Wikipedia article has "citation needed" tags on both parts of the definition, you'll notice. Also has a few vague cases like the BAR which couldn't really decide if it was a really light machine gun or a really heavy automatic rifle.
 

sooperman

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Evil Tim said:
Stickyreiss said:
the term "submachine gun" usually refers to larger automatic firearms scaled down from that of a full-sized machine gun, while the term "machine pistol" usually refers to a weapon built up from a semi-automatic pistol design.
Yeah, I checked Wikipedia too, but that's even worse as a definition since you're not going to find an SMG in the world that's a scaled down machine gun, though some (UMP, MP5, MP7) are scaled down assault rifle actions.

It's not really a helpful definition since most of the examples that fall in the middle aren't scaled-up or scaled-down versions of anything. There's also reverse cases like the compact Uzis, machine pistols which are scaled-down SMGs.

The one for battle rifle is even worse since last I checked every definition I'd found offline was that a battle rifle had to be at least semi-automatic while firing a full-sized rifle round, with some specifying select-fire. Also has a few vague cases like the BAR which couldn't really decide if it was a really light machine gun or a really heavy automatic rifle.
My vote for the BAR is that it's a really heavy assault rifle; a 30-round mag isn't going to lay down covering fire or defend anything.

Machine pistol vs. SMG, though? It looks like we have to call it on a case-by-case basis until we get a better definition. :/