How is the weather way up there in your ivory tower?Mimsofthedawg said:For most guys? It's because they're pervs.
part thisManji187 said:I find the concept of a woman kicking ass so much more appealing than a man kicking ass. Men kick ass (and get their asses kicked) all the time...it is rather boring.
and part this, but mostly the first oneJaceArveduin said:Well, as it was said to me by one guy:
"If I'm going to be staring at a characters ass for hours on end, might as well make it a nice ass"
I don't want to be stating the obvious here, but isn't the reason women aren't frontline soldiers because a fit man will almost always be faster/stronger than a fit woman, and the US army wants to have the most capable soldiers on the frontline? I really don't mean to be sexist, but assuming that all soldiers are roughly equal in terms of firing accuracy and knowledge of what to do in a gunfight and other learned soldiering skills, wouldn't an all male squad be expected to be most successful due to advantages in moving between locations, carrying any extra necessary supplies, or whatever other advantages that would be conferred by better fitness?Fappy said:boag said:THe only thing you need to think about is POW and youll quickly agree that woman in that situation is going to have a much worse time than a man.Fappy said:One theory is that most of them revolve around the US military and while females are allowed to serve they ARE NOT permitted to serve as frontline soldiers. Fun fact a lot of people don't know about. Sounds sexist at first glance but I have heard very compelling arguments from men and women why this is actually a good thing. Not sure how I feel about it honestly.Wolfram01 said:Never really understood why most recent FPS games only allow male models, and in many cases you don't choose any aspects of how it looks either.GoaThief said:Really don't understand why people complain about gender, insecurities of their own?
I quite fondly recall getting verbal abuse from other players I'd be smashing in a couple of competitive FPS from yesteryear; rude enquiries into why would I pick a female model? Was I a flaming homosexual? The truth is I quite enjoyed the slightly smaller models but the main reason was preferring to hear a female grunting and moaning in my ear whilst bunny hopping for hours on end and sustaining damage, instead of a male one. Who was the supposed gay one again, not that it really matters?
As much as it is hard to imagine how one POW can have a shittier time than others I have to agree with you. Women would definitely be more vulnerable to sexual abuse due to the fact that their captures would likely be >90% male and not bound by international laws regarding torture. [Insert quip about Guantanamo here].
The best argument I have heard is that a female comrade going down in a combat situation would be more damaging to a male soldier's composure than would a male comrade going down. It makes a lot of sense when you think about our (America's) culture. Protecting women/keep them safe and all that. I am not saying its fair, but its impossible to deny that is how our society works here in the US.
Launcelot111 said:I don't want to be stating the obvious here, but isn't the reason women aren't frontline soldiers because a fit man will almost always be faster/stronger than a fit woman, and the US army wants to have the most capable soldiers on the frontline? I really don't mean to be sexist, but assuming that all soldiers are roughly equal in terms of firing accuracy and knowledge of what to do in a gunfight and other learned soldiering skills, wouldn't an all male squad be expected to be most successful due to advantages in moving between locations, carrying any extra necessary supplies, or whatever other advantages that would be conferred by better fitness?Fappy said:boag said:THe only thing you need to think about is POW and youll quickly agree that woman in that situation is going to have a much worse time than a man.Fappy said:One theory is that most of them revolve around the US military and while females are allowed to serve they ARE NOT permitted to serve as frontline soldiers. Fun fact a lot of people don't know about. Sounds sexist at first glance but I have heard very compelling arguments from men and women why this is actually a good thing. Not sure how I feel about it honestly.Wolfram01 said:Never really understood why most recent FPS games only allow male models, and in many cases you don't choose any aspects of how it looks either.GoaThief said:Really don't understand why people complain about gender, insecurities of their own?
I quite fondly recall getting verbal abuse from other players I'd be smashing in a couple of competitive FPS from yesteryear; rude enquiries into why would I pick a female model? Was I a flaming homosexual? The truth is I quite enjoyed the slightly smaller models but the main reason was preferring to hear a female grunting and moaning in my ear whilst bunny hopping for hours on end and sustaining damage, instead of a male one. Who was the supposed gay one again, not that it really matters?
As much as it is hard to imagine how one POW can have a shittier time than others I have to agree with you. Women would definitely be more vulnerable to sexual abuse due to the fact that their captures would likely be >90% male and not bound by international laws regarding torture. [Insert quip about Guantanamo here].
The best argument I have heard is that a female comrade going down in a combat situation would be more damaging to a male soldier's composure than would a male comrade going down. It makes a lot of sense when you think about our (America's) culture. Protecting women/keep them safe and all that. I am not saying its fair, but its impossible to deny that is how our society works here in the US.
If being a pilot or intel officer or whatnot could be done better by one gender, then I'd assume (and for the good of our country expect) that the military would only take that gender for that role. However, those jobs require intelligence or dexterity which are distributed evenly between genders. Male benefits from different body structure are the only differences between genders that matter to the military, and that difference is being exploited where it is most important, which is the frontline.
I don't mean to say that woman POWs would not be treated worse (I wholeheartedly agree with that view) or that male soldiers would not be upset at the death of a female soldier in their troop, but I think women accept all inherent risks of the military when they enlist, and I think the army will put out the most effective unit possible in any branch of the military without being too emotional on the matter.
I'll say that's all well and good, and I realize you aren't projecting this view onto others. But for example when I play an RPG I do not get into the role as if it were me. I play it like I'm reading a book, I'm just a puppet master. If my puppet is a good looking girl or a beefy meatbag of a guy (War from Darksiders lol) I don't really care. But if I have a choice I sometimes pick one, sometimes the other. I might feel awkward having to do very feminine things, like if the game made you do your makeup (I don't know what kind of game that would be...). Fortunately most games do not care if you are a guy or girl besides maybe a different perk here and there like in Skyrim. Which, btw, I played as a male mage first then a female sneak.Scrustle said:I think it has something to do with the "role playing" aspect of an RPG. I have no problem playing as Faith in Mirror's Edge (actually I really love that the character is female) but there's something disturbing to me about assuming the persona of a female. It's kind of like digital transvestitism in a way. I don't personally object to transvestites, but I don't want to be one. Also there's the tendency for female characters in games to be sexualized, which is something I don't want to play as. That's another reason why I really like Faith, she's not sexualized at all. She's not being used for eye candy in any way shape or form.
For Saints Row I always try and recreate Dr Girlfriend so a little of both there. Also, I kind of think of SR as Dr Girlfriend's prequel.Otaku World Order said:Given a choice, I usually play as female characters myself. In stuff like Fallout, it doesn't make much difference though.
In Saints Row, it's kinda hilarious and awesome since the dialogue always seems to be written with a heavy dose of testosterone.
I think it is the (silly and outdated) concept that you the player MUST see the video game character you are playing as some sort of avatar for yourself.Fappy said:**snip**