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[Beryl77]

I liked Pokemon as a kid and I still like them. I don't think the games have gotten worse, in fact I think that the gameplay has improved a lot over the decade. When I go back and play blue, I feel really limited. It's not that fun anymore and not because of the graphics but because I'm used to the much better mechanics of the newer games.
As I've stated in several other similar threads about Pokemon, I don't think the designs have gotten worse, they're just different. Partly because they don't have the graphical limitations of the old gameboys and of course things just change after a while.
Whether you like it or not is up to you of course but I don't see why it should end just because you believe they're not as good anymore. It will end if enough people don't like them anymore and stop buying the games, which doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon.

 

[Palademon]

...I'd just like more of those 3D Pokemon games with a story, I like those.

 

[Terminate421]

Hoho, it looks like another "Terminate421 defends Pokémon with his entirely unbiased viewpoint thread!
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Now that's just rude. In all honesty.

You only see me go rageface on haters who have no legitimate reason about it.

 

[DubiousJackson]

Something that I'd love to see brought back is the Pokemon following you from Yellow and SoulSilver, I really like it and would be good to see in the 3d layout games. If they ever were to run out of ideas they could release one HHHHUUUGGGGGGEEEE game and have all the islands or most of them in it, don't know how they would do it, but I would buy it hands down!

 

[LittleJoeRambler]

I just want them to make a mega-game that allows you to travel between all of the regions, not just Kanto/Johto.

And get rid of all the trade/event/weird item thingies you need to get all the pokemon. Just let me go catch the little bastards! Let me have an epic adventure where I track all of them down and finally catch them all in one game. No Pal Park, no transferring, just me and a few thousand pokeballs.

It'd probably need to be a console release though; not sure if handhelds can do all that or not.

 

[Something Amyss]

Pokémon B&W is probably my favourite iteration yet. I'm not going to flame or whine, but even with lackluster Pokés, I say if they've got that caliber of game in them, rock on.

 

[DubiousJackson]

Well I suppose that would at least mean better graphics (theoretically). If it came out on handheld it would be great but I do agree that it may not be able to handle it. And I definitely agree on the events thing, just have each of them in some dungeon/quest etc thing. Just give me a lot of boxes, copious amounts of pokeballs and a new pokeball for no apparent reason other than I want a new one to exist!!!

 

[Trippy Turtle]

I'm still enjoying the new Pokemon games and I like it for being the one franchise Nintendo puts out still worth buying. Mario, Zelda and Pokemon all are basically retextured versions of the originals but at least Pokemon feels more like an expansion then a really old game that was photoshopped.

 

[Innegativeion]

Gen 5 has pokemon modeled after trashbags leaking shit and ice cream cones. It's obvious they're out of ideas. The last best thing they could do is make a huge, immersive MMO, but nintendo fucking blows at making new games/using new ideas, so they'll probably just keep cranking out the same old bullshit.

Gen 1 has a pile of mud and just renamed animals. They were obviously out of ideas back then *sigh*. Please come up with an argument that you did not read somewhere and kept on repeating it over and over again.

I also love some of the evolved forms in gen 3.

Dugtrio... is FUCKING 3 diglets! It's just 3 fucking diglets! ITS JUST THREE DIGLETS!!! :O

Oh yeah and let's not forget the classic; the ball with eyes. Which involves into...

*drumroll*

...

...

an INVERTED ball with eyes!

 

[ThePenguinKnight]

I stopped enjoying and paying attention to Pokemon after Sapphire and Ruby however Pokemon Conquest has sparked my interest. I tried the Dungeon series and it was alright, but nothing I'd beat or buy sequels of.

 

[GangstaPony]

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When you agree with the above...
I will agree with you and personally destroy the Pokemon franchise

 

[Kahunaburger]

Nintendo has discovered what is essentially crack for 5th graders. Why would they stop making it?

How is it that it stays appealing to the 5th graders even as time passes though? Do new 5th graders get on board, or do the 5th graders from R/B days still play it? The latter has not been the case in my experience, I just wonder how it still has appeal and exposure to young audiences in this constantly changing atmosphere.

If this graph:

is anything to go by, I'd say a little of both. I've got a younger cousin playing pokemon now, and it seems to me that the core components that appealed to me and my friends at her age (collectible monsters that look cute and/or awesome, strong social elements, well-designed progression mechanics, and good marketing) are the elements that appeal to her.

 

[TheNamlessGuy]

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[Dfskelleton]

Oh crap, do you know what you've just done?
Here, take this:

So much flame...
Just reading the first page his singed my eyebrows through my computer screen.
I would say something about opinions and all that, but I value what's left of my eyebrows.

 

[Smeggs]

Nintendo has discovered what is essentially crack for 5th graders. Why would they stop making it?

How is it that it stays appealing to the 5th graders even as time passes though? Do new 5th graders get on board, or do the 5th graders from R/B days still play it? The latter has not been the case in my experience, I just wonder how it still has appeal and exposure to young audiences in this constantly changing atmosphere.

The anime is still going, to my knowledge. I believe it airs at like 7 or 8AM on CN or something, which is usually about the time children are getting up to get ready for school/eating breakfast, including (I think) a new episode sometime on Saturday and I know that around noon on Saturdays they always have like two episodes on.

Not to mention that the TCG is still going strong, I'm not sure where exactly, but it's still alive and kicking pretty well if the cards are still being made along with full CG commercials for each new iteration of cards.

All in all it has the exact same appeal as it did for us when we were young as the new generation has now. "Woah, this guy has a cool pet with super powers! I want one! Wow, he's on an adventure to become the Pokemon Master instead of sitting in boring old school!"

Honestly, that's why everyone watched the show. Ash, unlike us, got to go on adventures with monsters and his friends instead of sitting in school. It made us feel like we were on the adventure ourselves.

This is also why the anime hasn't changed, and they have now begun to replace all key characters except Pikachu, and why he is always so weak, and why you never even really hear about Ash's other Pokemon or exploits in other regions (Seriously, does nobody recognize the guy who has reached at least the semi-finals in every league, beaten every gym so far, defeated every battle frontier, and the Orange league?) In fact, the only time you actually ever see or hear about Ash's other Pokemon anymore is usually the League battle section of the newest season, where he always brings over two or three older-STRONGER-faces to fight with. I'm not even sure if he talks to Oak or his own mother anymore.

Because this way, it's fresh, and it's new for the new generation of viewers. GF finally realized that after four generations that most of the original viewers probably aren't watching it anymore.

I'm rambling.

TL;DR

Kids will always like what kids have always liked. It's not the quality of the show, but how it is presented.

 

[Syzygy23]

SUDDENLY: OPINIONS EVERYWHERE

Pokemon was an enormous part of my childhood, though I generally stopped paying attention after gen 2, sticking with R/B/Y and G/S/C. Black and White revived my interest in the series, and I'm genuinely looking forward to B/W 2 as it looks like they have a chance to be the best Pokemon games I've ever played.

You grew up. You got older. And now, you don't enjoy the new games as much as you enjoyed the older games when you were a kid. Sounds like you have a TRAGIC variation of Star-Wars-Fan-Itis.

Just because you don't like the series anymore doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. It's bigger than it's ever been, and it'll continue to grow whether you like it or not.

That analogy doesn't work because the prequels were objectively complete shit. No, you can't argue against it, Red Letter Media made it a fact already.

Pokemon died for me after the ones with Regi things. Y'know, those golems that required a ridiculously unintuitive sequence of events to make appear and then required at least 60 attempts to capture with ultraballs.

 

[Smeggs]

That analogy doesn't work because the prequels were objectively complete shit. No, you can't argue against it, Red Letter Media made it a fact already.

Pokemon died for me after the ones with Regi things. Y'know, those golems that required a ridiculously unintuitive sequence of events to make appear and then required at least 60 attempts to capture with ultraballs.

Nobody will ever argue they were not.

 

[Yopaz]

Edit: quoted the wrong post. I hate this new forum look with a fiery passion.

Totally agree. I loved the Mystery Dungeon games.

OT: Opinions presented as facts. A successful series which generated a lot of income for Nintendo should be discontinued. I wont bother to go into more details why this thread is stupid.

 

[Buizel91]

Oooh great, Another thread, of someone else not liking the GEN 5 Pokemon's. *Sigh*

I admit, i haven't been on Black or white for ages, but that's because i have pretty much done everything. However when BW2 comes out in England i'm going to be bossing it!

Gen 5 added some of the best Pokemon around, such as Axew's evolutionary forms, Joltik and his evolution, and Snivy's forms and Oshawotts. Tepig is awesome but his evo's are meh.

Also we got Dark/Dragon type, and a Bug/fire type, which completely shakes things up from a competitive stand point, plus the new moves that are included are awesome (Now Electrode finally has a use instead of just his speed with Electro-ball)

Oooh plus, BW2 is a sequel, not a new game entirely, someone should do research on Serebii or something, because BW2 looks to be the best thing that ever happened to Pokemon, it's the first time a region has been completely changed and has had different gyms, plus Hardmode (which im guessing is like New game +) looks to shake things uo even more!

 

[Innegativeion]

Know what I'd love to see in a pokemon spinoff game?

Real-time combat.

Like, you travel the overworld, then are transported to a themed arena when you run into a pokemon/trainer. I imagine smash bros./mega man (x,zero,zx) style combat with your pokemon's 4 move translating to the 4 B moves of a smash bros. character.