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Casual Shinji said:
I don't like to brag, but do I have a good one.

In The Terminator Kyle says that the time displacement device would ony allow living matter to go back in time. The T-101 is a machine surrouded by living tissue so it's able to enter. But the T-1000 from T2 is pure metal so what the hell went wrong there.
They built a new one?

henritje said:
ok here is a plot CRATER: the fact that Skynet exist in Terminator 3 since ALL research prototypes and even the procesor from the first terminator got destroied
Isn't the whole point of Terminator 3 that actually, despite all the efforts the contrary, Skynet will be / is created and the war with the machines will / does start? Because otherwise the first two films are a total paradox of the standard "Why go back in time to fix the past if it's fixed... but then it fails so you've already died and can't go back?" sort of manner.
 
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MisterLister said:
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How do sterile Vampires get thier Human girlfriends preggers?

I've not read the books, but heard enough about about this paticular plothole to want an explanation.

The way I understood it, he was still fertile, it just the females become sterile. Their bodies can't change in the way a pregnancy would require. The males, however, could still feasibly produce viable sperm. They have to replenish venom and process nourishment, so some biological activity still must be going on. Since this is a fantasy style novel, there is no reason to assume it is impossible.
While your explanation might just make sense, Stephanie Meyer's offical word on the subject is actually less plausible.

Vampire males continue to have semen stored in their testicles, which when heated to core body temperature of a normal human, 'reactivates' the semen and allows it to impregnate a fertile human female. I'm just going to leave biologist to gnash their teeth and cry over that little announcement.
 

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the entire plot of citizen kaneNo one is in the room when the word "rosebud" is said, in fact the maid doesn't even find the man's body until several minutes later rendering most of the plot impossible.
 

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SonicKoala said:
I never understood why in District 9 the aliens were such wimps and never fought back against their human oppressors, despite the fact they had a gi-normous ship (which undoubtedly would be filled with totally awesome alien technology), far better weapons (despite looking like fancy Nerf guns), and they were extremely strong and agile - and there was apparently A QUARTER OF A MILLION OF THEM.
There were riots but the army always put them down, they could not organize into a collective force, and if they had they probably would have nuked the place, plus most of them were high on Cat food
 

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MisterLister said:
Revelo said:
How do sterile Vampires get thier Human girlfriends preggers?

I've not read the books, but heard enough about about this paticular plothole to want an explanation.

The way I understood it, he was still fertile, it just the females become sterile. Their bodies can't change in the way a pregnancy would require. The males, however, could still feasibly produce viable sperm. They have to replenish venom and process nourishment, so some biological activity still must be going on. Since this is a fantasy style novel, there is no reason to assume it is impossible.
Nuh-uh.

The book clearly states no biological activity goes on inside his body. Yet he still manages to get her pregnant. This is my favourite plot hole by the way, it totally skews the entire story.
 

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Disaster Button said:
MisterLister said:
Revelo said:
How do sterile Vampires get thier Human girlfriends preggers?

I've not read the books, but heard enough about about this paticular plothole to want an explanation.

The way I understood it, he was still fertile, it just the females become sterile. Their bodies can't change in the way a pregnancy would require. The males, however, could still feasibly produce viable sperm. They have to replenish venom and process nourishment, so some biological activity still must be going on. Since this is a fantasy style novel, there is no reason to assume it is impossible.
Nuh-uh.

The book clearly states no biological activity goes on inside his body. Yet he still manages to get her pregnant. This is my favourite plot hole by the way, it totally skews the entire story.
IMMACULATE CONCEPTION! STEPHANIE MEYER IS PLAGIARISING THE BIBLE AND THEREFORE MUST BE A SATANIC PRIEST OF DOOOOOOOOOOOOM
 

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JemJar said:
Disaster Button said:
MisterLister said:
Revelo said:
How do sterile Vampires get thier Human girlfriends preggers?

I've not read the books, but heard enough about about this paticular plothole to want an explanation.

The way I understood it, he was still fertile, it just the females become sterile. Their bodies can't change in the way a pregnancy would require. The males, however, could still feasibly produce viable sperm. They have to replenish venom and process nourishment, so some biological activity still must be going on. Since this is a fantasy style novel, there is no reason to assume it is impossible.
Nuh-uh.

The book clearly states no biological activity goes on inside his body. Yet he still manages to get her pregnant. This is my favourite plot hole by the way, it totally skews the entire story.
IMMACULATE CONCEPTION! STEPHANIE MEYER IS PLAGIARISING THE BIBLE AND THEREFORE MUST BE A SATANIC PRIEST OF DOOOOOOOOOOOOM
I always knew she wasn't smart to come up with a plot of her own.. well more of an abortion than a plot really
 

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Douk said:
What I always wondered was in Deathnote when Mikami comes at the end and finishes the series, why'd he come in the first place? Did Light tell him to, I don't remember him being told about the meeting. How did everyone know Mikami was gonna arrive.
because mikami had to see them to kill them and near and light both knew this
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqVD0swvWU

Damn eagles too busy off cleaning their feathers for most of the story.
Also, in addition to what everyone else has said, Gandalf wanted to speak with the head of his order. It's implied he had a plan, and would catch up with them after that. The fact that Sauroman was already corrupted obviously put a damper on things, thus his last minute rescue.

I have a question about Twilight myself. Maybe it's explained in the books or movies (I haven't watched more than the first hour of the first movie), but what the hell are X00 year old vampires doing in high school? That just causes more problems than it solves. After all, if they bounce from high-school to high-school every four years, someone would get suspicious. Every time they transfer, they'd need transcripts from the old school if for nothing else than record keeping. Even if they claimed they were home schooled, the government strictly regulates that and requires periodic testing to make sure they are on par for their age level. Even if they use the old chestnut "Oh, the last place burned to the ground with all our records" someone would have noticed that either a)there are a lot of fires in records buildings every few years, b)said place doesn't exist, or c) said place exists, never had a fire, and has no idea who these people are. No matter what their excuse, somewhere in the chain of authority someone should have said "Hey, this doesn't add up."
 

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MisterLister said:
Revelo said:
How do sterile Vampires get thier Human girlfriends preggers?

I've not read the books, but heard enough about about this paticular plothole to want an explanation.

The way I understood it, he was still fertile, it just the females become sterile. Their bodies can't change in the way a pregnancy would require. The males, however, could still feasibly produce viable sperm. They have to replenish venom and process nourishment, so some biological activity still must be going on. Since this is a fantasy style novel, there is no reason to assume it is impossible.
Problem though. He's undead right? His heart doesn't beat then? Thats the definition of undead. But to get it up that part of the body needs blood to rush to it. So there is no way he can get anyone pregnant since he can't get it up. Doesn't matter if he fires blanks or not if his gun is missing the trigger.
 

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TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
Why didn't the summon all the Jedi to the temple first, instead of having the beacon put in place afterwords, leading to a galactic manhunt. Fewer would have gotten away
Considering the only Jedi that survived were Obi-won and Yoda, I'd say their plan was pretty successful.
Many more survived. Those are just the ones that show up in the movies.

Puzzles said:
Harry Potter and the lack of guns. Seriously, one gun would have ended most of the conflicts.
They are British, guns are the greater evil.
 

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Nautical Honors Society said:
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For example, I don't understand fully why Shepard betrayed Task Force 141 in CoDMW2. I know it was to increase recruits and nationalism, but why did he kill British soldiers?

Can someone explain this to me?
Shepard was behind the whole fiasco: he leaked the intel on the undercover operative in the mission 'No Russian' (airport shooting), he was the mastermind who laid the groundwork for the war and provided the opening spark. Task Force 141 was getting close to uncovering this, and in fact did (albeit around 5 minutes too late). Shepard could not allow the knowledge of his actions, along with the necessary proof, to reach the ears of any high-ranking officer: that would have screwed over his entire plan, as he would not have become the praised war-hero. The fastest and easiest way for Shepard that guaranteed the USA high-command would never hear of his duplicity was to kill off the members of Task Force 141 the way he did: go in, execute them, make up a story of coming in too late to save them, say a few nice words and everyone will say they are sorry you just lost such a good bunch of soldiers.
Oh, ok thank you I get that now. But I'm still wondering why he started everything? Just so he could get more recruits and be a hero, since he lost so many men 5 years ago?
I dont remember exactly(I gotta play again) but Im sure he was mad that all his soldiers died and that nobody cared, so with his new plan the world would be forced to see the importance of soldiers...I think.
 

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Nautical Honors Society said:
I just wanted to make a thread where people could help each other understand plot holes, in movies, video games, etc.

For example, I don't understand fully why Shepard betrayed Task Force 141 in CoDMW2. I know it was to increase recruits and nationalism, but why did he kill British soldiers?

Can someone explain this to me?

Then please ask about any plot holes you've experienced that you'd like someone to explain to you.
Come on, man, spoiler tag it.
He killed the British guys to make himself look like the main hero of the battle.
Also, he is sort of deranged in the way of General Hummel from the Rock.
 

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manaman said:
canadamus_prime said:
TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
Why didn't the summon all the Jedi to the temple first, instead of having the beacon put in place afterwords, leading to a galactic manhunt. Fewer would have gotten away
Considering the only Jedi that survived were Obi-won and Yoda, I'd say their plan was pretty successful.
Many more survived. Those are just the ones that show up in the movies.
That's sure not the impression I got.
 

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Disaster Button said:
MisterLister said:
Revelo said:
How do sterile Vampires get thier Human girlfriends preggers?

I've not read the books, but heard enough about about this paticular plothole to want an explanation.

The way I understood it, he was still fertile, it just the females become sterile. Their bodies can't change in the way a pregnancy would require. The males, however, could still feasibly produce viable sperm. They have to replenish venom and process nourishment, so some biological activity still must be going on. Since this is a fantasy style novel, there is no reason to assume it is impossible.
Nuh-uh.

The book clearly states no biological activity goes on inside his body. Yet he still manages to get her pregnant. This is my favourite plot hole by the way, it totally skews the entire story.
I'm not sure that it ever definitively stated that there was no activity at all. No normal activity, perhaps, but they would need some kind of system for drawing whatever they draw from the blood. They also have to produce new venom, otherwise they would run out rather quickly. As such, there is no reason that they couldn't also replenish sperm. As far a the official explanation, I lend little credence to that. Whenever an artist starts to butcher their own ideas, I just ignore their failures. After all, just look at the magical origin story for the werewolves. Up until then, the whole vampire condition could be explained by a powerful retrovirus, but if werewolves are magic, then logic can just be thrown out the window. Using that as a basis, I guess the official explanation could work.

I don't know, maybe I'm just over-thinking it. Either way, Vampire/Human hybrids and the Werewolves that Love Them is both a mildly interesting premise for her next series, and an awesome Springer show.
 

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In Tales of Symphonia, a character named Regal busts you out of an impenetrable prison using a Hadouken. However, Regal has this retarded reason for not fighting with his hands (but is perfectly willing to beat the shit out of you with his feet). So he is supposed to never use this Hadouken. His justification for using it anyways is that he didn't use it for violence, but rather to save the other characters.

The problem with this is that earlier in the game, another character named Bota was trapped behind an impenetrable glass screen within a room flooding with water. Regal tries to save him by breaking the screen with his feet. Why didn't he just use his Hadouken instead?
 

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Valkyria Chronicles has probably more than I can remember, but here's couple.

After almost the entire Gallian army is annihilated they roll in an enormous tank, which Alicia engages in battle and is clearly out-maneuvering it (the thing about oversized tanks: They don't really turn) and actually shoots right through its otherwise impenetrable armour... Then decides she has to turn herself into a human nuke to be able to destroy it.

What?

Welking of course manages convince her to not sacrifice herself... Or use her powers at all in the coming battle. Even after the Maximillian gives himself artifical Valkyre superpowers and turns the mega-tank into a nuke cannon (and fires is it).

What?
 

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HUBILUB said:
Twilight saga. Just... the whole saga.

How could so many teenage girls overlook all this stuff?
ITS TRUE LOVE!!!VAMPIRES R HOT!!1!1!!!

There is you answer. The scary, scary answer.

yersimapestis said:
halo wars:
WHY THE FUCK WAS THE FLOOD THERE?!
You really should have a spoiler tag here. But anyway, thousands of years before Halo takes place, there was a massive war between the Forunners, and Gravemind-led flood. Since it was controlled by a Gravemind, it would have resulted in direct attacks on Forunner planets. Therefor, the shield world in HW(which, if you couldn't tell, was a Forunner installation) would have been attacked by the Flood in the war. After Flood consume everything in an area, they attempt to move on. If they can't (as they were stranded-no ships) they go into hibernation until more pray comes into the area. That is the same reason the Flood on the rings where still numerous: They didn't disappear after the war, they hibernated.

SonicKoala said:
I never understood why in District 9 the aliens were such wimps and never fought back against their human oppressors, despite the fact they had a gi-normous ship (which undoubtedly would be filled with totally awesome alien technology), far better weapons (despite looking like fancy Nerf guns), and they were extremely strong and agile - and there was apparently A QUARTER OF A MILLION OF THEM.
Well that is a good point. infact, after we saw the movie, we actually debated for a while different plot points. But here is the conclusion we came to: They wern't hostile, and they knew fighting back would get them killed.

First of all, the ship. When the ship arrived, the control hub fell off. Note how they never left the ship, but rather they were brought out by humans who had to actualy carve into it. So the ship could very well have been like the one from Independance Day, but they had no means of controlling it.

Second, they were uneducated, and they wern't allowed to see the "High living" of humans because they were confined to D-9, and even if they got out they ended up in some generic Africa city. A slum wouldn't seem to out of place to them, and they wouldn't be able to see anything much different from where they were.

Third, about the weapons/agility. Like I said, they didn't seem very hostile. Yes the brought weapons, but they didn't use them. And even though there was a quater million of them, that would be a drop in the bucket to the 6 billion humans on earth. Hell, even the city they were cituated in probably had a few million people. And MNU was fighting them with things like shotguns and mean words. If they really wanted to just destroy the Prawn, they would roll in their with tanks and air support and just start blasting shit.
 

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Any case where a timeloop is involved. You see, when a timeloop is involved, you have some future event cause a past one and we're all just caught in the middle of it, doomed to play it out in some form or enough. This happened in Blazblue, and while I don't have a problem with it...it can't work. The loop had to start from somewhere, and the event that keeps making it happen CAN'T have been the real cause, because the loop didn't exist before Event-X. It just didn't.