Pokemon Black and White Version 2 Review

[Padwolf]

I will still be getting it because god damn I'm a pokemon addict. I have to have all the pokemon games! Have to play and enjoy them all, have to enjoy all the amazing music in the games, all the wonderful and weird and silly pokemon. B&W2 sounds really good. I want it now!

 

[Neoseek]

Of all of the things I'm looking forward to in these games, the music is amongst the top of the list. GameFreak outdid themselves with the music they put together.

Not to mention with the Pokemon World Tournament, you can face off against all of your favorite Gym Leaders and Champions from the past. I am SO looking forward to kicking Cynthia's arse all over the place...again.

I agree, the remixed themes are awesome.

Spoiler: Kanto

Spoiler: Johto

Spoiler: Hoenn

Spoiler: Sinnoh

It is a shame they didn't include the e4 from all the gens too.

 

[Buizel91]

You can trade with the 4th gen games as well? not just sending Pokemon over, but actually...Trade?

FUCKING STOKED! finally i can send Pokemon from Gen 4 and send them back if i want to! i have wanted to do that since Gen 3!

 

[Buizel91]

I'll get it, cause god damn, fuck you statistics! You drive me to battle! ...EV and IV *shudder*

But one thing, I want my leading pokemon to follow me around like in heartgold/soulsilver/Yellow

Nintendo; why isn't that a staple of the franchise yet!?!

My Gardevoir should not be confined to a damn pokeball

Neither should my Ponyta

Agreed, even if it is only the starter Pokemon that can follow you, it should be kept that way!

It's one of the main reasons i keep going back to SS.

 

[Buizel91]

This game is getting criticized on other sites for being the same as the 1st Black and white. Not that it matters IMO you just use Water on Fire, Fire on Grass and Grass on Water and call it strategy. Sorry but Rack, Paper, Scissors strategy is not hard to master unless you're 12 or touched in the head. Using whatever the other person is weak against isn't hard to figure out.

But that isn't just it, Quilava can learn Wild Charge by TM which is an Electric move, so if you are battling a guy with a Wartortle, and your Quilava is quicker, it can potentially K.O that Wartortle or at least do a lot of damage, where as normally a Quilava wouldn't be any match.

You can confine your Fire types to just fire moves, or your psychic to just psychic moves, but if you do that your missing the point entirely.

It is possible to teach your Pokemon moves to counter it's weakness's and don't forget that, it really isn't as simple as you think.

 

[wyldchyld337]

I've been playing the Pokemon games starting from Blue, Gold, Sapphire, Pearl, Platinum, Heart Gold, and White. In all those iterations, the core gameplay has changed very little. What has changed is the subtle, behind-the-wall, things such as EVs/IVs and the Meta-gameplay. For the Meta alone am I excited for these new ones as well. All they would need to make this perfect, in my eyes, would be to bring back the Battle Arcade from Heart Gold/Soul Silver (I was a big fan of the Battle Factory and "renting" 'Mons to use for battling).

As an added benefit, I am now 32 and my daughter will be turning 9 in Dec. She learned how to read thanks to playing an old copy of Fire Red that we had around the house. This is yet another reason why any Pokemon game is "serious business" around my house. Having two copies makes it that much easier to "Catch Them All."

--Captcha--
"It's Super Delicious"

 

[TurtleCannon]

I'm not going to get either of them. They look too similar to the first two for my likings. And seeing how I didn't care much for the 5th gen. games much that's no surprise.

 

[Shnazaholic11]

This game is getting criticized on other sites for being the same as the 1st Black and white. Not that it matters IMO you just use Water on Fire, Fire on Grass and Grass on Water and call it strategy. Sorry but Rack, Paper, Scissors strategy is not hard to master unless you're 12 or touched in the head. Using whatever the other person is weak against isn't hard to figure out.

But you get a strategy when you can choose from a giant roster of Pokes, all with different combinations of types (electro/bug, fire/fight, fire/bug and so on), all with several possible movesets and different stat and EV spreads (aka different speed, attack strength, defensive strength) and items. If you have to build a team of 6 where each one has to hold a purpose and you have to be able to be able to beat all kind of builds you build yourself up a strategy.

There is so much more to this game than just "rock, paper, scissors".

Stopped playing Pokemon after Gen 4 since I felt that repetition bug kick in. But I seriously think that arguments defending the depth to the strategy are bogus, because I got through just fine on Platinum, beating every trainer, the Elite 4, the Champion, and the Battle Frontier with only 6 mons that I slapped together with little thought on strategy and none for EV/IV training, all with damage based moves. And I will say that the effort even then wasn't worth it. Yeah I know there's online battle where that stuff is necessary but what's the point? To beat the part of the game that matters, that "Rock, Paper, Scissors" strategy is all you need. The depth is there, I won't deny it, but it's largely unnecessary for the core game.

Personally, I find the battle system to be dull ,lifeless, and outdated. And there's just no point for me to invest enough time to create "proper" team builds for online battle when there is no foreseeable reward for it. To me, Pokemon is just a pointless grind-feast with anemic personality and charm. There is no point to it and if there is one, I don't see it and it's definitely not worth it.

In other words, I'll be avoiding this one as I did it's predecessor.

 

[disgruntledgamer]

This game is getting criticized on other sites for being the same as the 1st Black and white. Not that it matters IMO you just use Water on Fire, Fire on Grass and Grass on Water and call it strategy. Sorry but Rack, Paper, Scissors strategy is not hard to master unless you're 12 or touched in the head. Using whatever the other person is weak against isn't hard to figure out.

But you get a strategy when you can choose from a giant roster of Pokes, all with different combinations of types (electro/bug, fire/fight, fire/bug and so on), all with several possible movesets and different stat and EV spreads (aka different speed, attack strength, defensive strength) and items. If you have to build a team of 6 where each one has to hold a purpose and you have to be able to be able to beat all kind of builds you build yourself up a strategy.

There is so much more to this game than just "rock, paper, scissors".

Nope sorry you're wrong even when you pick your roster your still using the same Rock, Paper, Scissors strategy, your just hoping yours matches his nicely which is luck, yes you could play it safe and pick a broad roster but it still boils down to using whatever the other person is weak against which is the simplest type of strategy to the point where most wouldn't even consider it strategy.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I wasn't excited for this and pretty much seemes like I was right not to be. Though to be fair I don't liek it because it feels too much like nintendo and gf are just caving in to fan whining that they didn't like the idea of starting fresh. And it feels llike they made it too easily and added unecessary gym leaders.

 

[The Ubermensch]

I'll get it, cause god damn, fuck you statistics! You drive me to battle! ...EV and IV *shudder*

But one thing, I want my leading pokemon to follow me around like in heartgold/soulsilver/Yellow

Nintendo; why isn't that a staple of the franchise yet!?!

My Gardevoir should not be confined to a damn pokeball

Neither should my Ponyta

Agreed, even if it is only the starter Pokemon that can follow you, it should be kept that way!

It's one of the main reasons i keep going back to SS.

... Who the fack wants a samurott following them around everywhere? gen 5 starters suck dick man.

I want my Gardevoir, Rapidash (Twilight) or Zebrastrika (Zecora) to follow me everywhere

Anything less will incur all of my fan boy rage... and based on the fandoms I'm in I apparantly have a lot

 

[Navvan]

This game is getting criticized on other sites for being the same as the 1st Black and white. Not that it matters IMO you just use Water on Fire, Fire on Grass and Grass on Water and call it strategy. Sorry but Rack, Paper, Scissors strategy is not hard to master unless you're 12 or touched in the head. Using whatever the other person is weak against isn't hard to figure out.

But you get a strategy when you can choose from a giant roster of Pokes, all with different combinations of types (electro/bug, fire/fight, fire/bug and so on), all with several possible movesets and different stat and EV spreads (aka different speed, attack strength, defensive strength) and items. If you have to build a team of 6 where each one has to hold a purpose and you have to be able to be able to beat all kind of builds you build yourself up a strategy.

There is so much more to this game than just "rock, paper, scissors".

Nope sorry you're wrong even when you pick your roster your still using the same Rock, Paper, Scissors strategy, your just hoping yours matches his nicely which is luck, yes you could play it safe and pick a broad roster but it still boils down to using whatever the other person is weak against which is the simplest type of strategy to the point where most wouldn't even consider it strategy.

The single player aspect of the game is entirely beatable with "rock paper scissor" strategy. It is easily beatable without any strategy. Go into any sort of competitive environment with that as you're only aim and you're not going to have a good time.

 

[theultimateend]

Black and White are still the only generation I haven't finished but I may give it another go with this.

Same, however I just have had a lot of other games to play instead. I need to sit down and beat those last few gym leaders and finish off the Elite Four.

Elite 4 isn't the end in this one >_>.

I mean I guess they basically are, but they aren't.

...is this a spoiler? I want to tag it but it doesn't feel like a spoiler.

Black and White were the first game that I played competitively. And mastered. So I am so psyched for Black 2! FINALLY I CAN CATCH AN EEVEE AND GROWLITHE!!!! Woo!

Want to be pokemon buddies? I'm going to get it when it launches.

The single player aspect of the game is entirely beatable with "rock paper scissor" strategy. It is easily beatable without any strategy. Go into any sort of competitive environment with that as you're only aim and you're not going to have a good time.

I dunno if you like to do this so if you do just ignore me.

BUT if these kind of people annoy you I would suggest not trying to debate with folks who have an agenda. Their name is literally "disgruntled" and they are being hyperbolic, I'd save your time <.<.

Plenty of valid complaints about Pokemon to be had, if they can't be bothered to pick ANY of them then others shouldn't need to explain it to them.

 

[Buizel91]

I'll get it, cause god damn, fuck you statistics! You drive me to battle! ...EV and IV *shudder*

But one thing, I want my leading pokemon to follow me around like in heartgold/soulsilver/Yellow

Nintendo; why isn't that a staple of the franchise yet!?!

My Gardevoir should not be confined to a damn pokeball

Neither should my Ponyta

Agreed, even if it is only the starter Pokemon that can follow you, it should be kept that way!

It's one of the main reasons i keep going back to SS.

... Who the fack wants a samurott following them around everywhere? gen 5 starters suck dick man.

I want my Gardevoir, Rapidash (Twilight) or Zebrastrika (Zecora) to follow me everywhere

Anything less will incur all of my fan boy rage... and based on the fandoms I'm in I apparantly have a lot

The Gen 5 starters are fine, the weakest design out of them is the Tepig line. And personally, i'd love a Samurott following me, a Sea Lion with swords...what's so wrong about that? ;D

 

[The Ubermensch]

I'll get it, cause god damn, fuck you statistics! You drive me to battle! ...EV and IV *shudder*

But one thing, I want my leading pokemon to follow me around like in heartgold/soulsilver/Yellow

Nintendo; why isn't that a staple of the franchise yet!?!

My Gardevoir should not be confined to a damn pokeball

Neither should my Ponyta

Agreed, even if it is only the starter Pokemon that can follow you, it should be kept that way!

It's one of the main reasons i keep going back to SS.

... Who the fack wants a samurott following them around everywhere? gen 5 starters suck dick man.

I want my Gardevoir, Rapidash (Twilight) or Zebrastrika (Zecora) to follow me everywhere

Anything less will incur all of my fan boy rage... and based on the fandoms I'm in I apparantly have a lot

The Gen 5 starters are fine, the weakest design out of them is the Tepig line. And personally, i'd love a Samurott following me, a Sea Lion with swords...what's so wrong about that? ;D

We all know Gen II has the best starting pokemon

Ok, well, I know. I had a Feraligatr, and it was the pokemon game I brainwashed myself on. I named him "Todonumega lord".

Anyway; off track. If we think "Oh, I'll be OK with just the starter pokemon" then that's all we'll get. Where as ALL THE POKEMON, everyone can choose. Think of someone else for a change!

 

[minuialear]

Anyway; off track. If we think "Oh, I'll be OK with just the starter pokemon" then that's all we'll get. Where as ALL THE POKEMON, everyone can choose. Think of someone else for a change!

As if the poster has any direct control over which it ends up being...?

OT: Dunno if this is worth buying since I already have Black, but it sounds like it has enough for those who haven't come to the current generation yet.

 

[The Ubermensch]

Anyway; off track. If we think "Oh, I'll be OK with just the starter pokemon" then that's all we'll get. Where as ALL THE POKEMON, everyone can choose. Think of someone else for a change!

As if the poster has any direct control over which it ends up being...?

OT: Dunno if this is worth buying since I already have Black, but it sounds like it has enough for those who haven't come to the current generation yet.

>Forgetting Mass Effect 3 fiasco

When anon is loud enough...

>Implying that Pokemon isn't digital crack and you must have all the games.

I've decided this game I'm going to EV train... Its gonna hurt so much

Spoiler

This game is getting criticized on other sites for being the same as the 1st Black and white. Not that it matters IMO you just use Water on Fire, Fire on Grass and Grass on Water and call it strategy. Sorry but Rack, Paper, Scissors strategy is not hard to master unless you're 12 or touched in the head. Using whatever the other person is weak against isn't hard to figure out.

But you get a strategy when you can choose from a giant roster of Pokes, all with different combinations of types (electro/bug, fire/fight, fire/bug and so on), all with several possible movesets and different stat and EV spreads (aka different speed, attack strength, defensive strength) and items. If you have to build a team of 6 where each one has to hold a purpose and you have to be able to be able to beat all kind of builds you build yourself up a strategy.

There is so much more to this game than just "rock, paper, scissors".

Nope sorry you're wrong even when you pick your roster your still using the same Rock, Paper, Scissors strategy, your just hoping yours matches his nicely which is luck, yes you could play it safe and pick a broad roster but it still boils down to using whatever the other person is weak against which is the simplest type of strategy to the point where most wouldn't even consider it strategy.

The single player aspect of the game is entirely beatable with "rock paper scissor" strategy. It is easily beatable without any strategy. Go into any sort of competitive environment with that as you're only aim and you're not going to have a good time.

Umbreon (Dark[I was super envious, but my leafeon kicks ass]) vs Gardevoir (Psychic[weak to dark])

Uark pulse - super effective - G health down to red
Gouble team -evasiveness increased
U:Bite - Miss
Gouble team - Evasiveness increased
U:Quick attack - Miss
Gsychic (Just to make him think I was a noob)
U:Shadow Ball - Miss
G:THUNDER BOLT - Critical hit - U down to yellow/Paralysed
Uaralysed, It can't move!
G:Magic leaf - U has fainted
me: I FUCKED YOU SHIT *****, OH YEAH, I AM THE POKEMON MASTER MOTHER FUCKER. I'mma lend you my ditto so I can fuck all ya pokemon

There is a poker aspect to the game as well. Rock doesn't beat titanium diamond coated scissors

 

[The White Hunter]

I'm glad to see they are starting to make use of the systems graphical capabilities, aside from Stadium etc is this the first main Pokemon game to have 3d graphics in it? I'm curious, I don't play them but I used to, from red up to silver.

Diamond and Pearl had 3D stuff in them, progressively more of it as the games have gone on.

OT: Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay I want now : DD

 

[emeraldrafael]

I'll get it, cause god damn, fuck you statistics! You drive me to battle! ...EV and IV *shudder*

But one thing, I want my leading pokemon to follow me around like in heartgold/soulsilver/Yellow

Nintendo; why isn't that a staple of the franchise yet!?!

My Gardevoir should not be confined to a damn pokeball

Neither should my Ponyta

Agreed, even if it is only the starter Pokemon that can follow you, it should be kept that way!

It's one of the main reasons i keep going back to SS.

... Who the fack wants a samurott following them around everywhere? gen 5 starters suck dick man.

I want my Gardevoir, Rapidash (Twilight) or Zebrastrika (Zecora) to follow me everywhere

Anything less will incur all of my fan boy rage... and based on the fandoms I'm in I apparantly have a lot

To be fair pretty much every starter sucks from every gen.

 

[minuialear]

Anyway; off track. If we think "Oh, I'll be OK with just the starter pokemon" then that's all we'll get. Where as ALL THE POKEMON, everyone can choose. Think of someone else for a change!

As if the poster has any direct control over which it ends up being...?

OT: Dunno if this is worth buying since I already have Black, but it sounds like it has enough for those who haven't come to the current generation yet.

>Forgetting Mass Effect 3 fiasco

When anon is loud enough...

>Forgetting that it wasn't one poster who directly influenced that, but a multitude of posters protesting that it be done...