Pokemon Global Link Goes Live, Offers Overpowered Pokemon

Heart of Darkness

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Pinstar said:
Oh don't complain about Drought Ninetales. She's been treading the mediocrity swamp for so long, it is about time they threw her a bone and let her compete with the other overpowered 'mons (Garchomp anyone?)

-Pinstar
Ninetales fan since Gen 1
I've always been a fan of Arcanine and Houndoom more than Ninetails. I'd kill for a Drought Houndoom or a Moxie/Solar Power Arcanine.
 

Kenjitsuka

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"Do you have any idea how overpowered that is?"

Nope, no idea. But I'm sure it won't be so bad if everyone has the Ninetales anyway ;)
 

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SpaceMedarotterX said:
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So, new pokemon with new abilities, 2 on 2 and 3 on 3 battles,IV and EV training, new battle items that can turn the tide of battle and rotation battles for competitive play is lacking imagination? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Ohhh, really? It took them how many years to realize they can now do two on two? Well dang, and new items? They really are thinking outside the box! Why, next you'll tell me in ten years they'll make up four on four! It gets serious then, doesn't it?

Yeah, no imagination.
You have no idea. Yes it makes a damn difference.

Okay lets look at Ninetails since it was brought up in the news cast.

Drought makes it permanently sunny until another weather effect enters the battle It's already been brought up what Sunny does, so how do you use it? Simple, Ninetails supports it's entire team. 3 on 3 battles and rotations battle aren't just pokemon battles with 3 pokemon, your positioning in the battle affects who you can target and what AoE attacks target whom, rotation battles only lets you choose 1 of the 3 to attack but allows you to swap it around within turns.

So my starting line up is Ninetails with Drought, Charizard with Solar Power and Cherrim with Flower Gift.

Ninetails makes the field sunny, Charizard's Solar Power boosts it's Special Attack by 1.5x, Cherrim changes forms in Sunny Weather and Flower Gift boosts the Attack and Special Defense of the whole party under Sunny Weather by 50%.

Now I have to focus on what items my pokemon have and what position they should be in. if Ninetails is in the middle? EVERYONE can target it, that means it's in the most dangerous position, but being in the middle lets it fight back against everyone. What about Charizard in the middle? if he's in the middle then Ninetails on the left can use Earthquake a 100 Attack ground move that gets boosted by Flower Gift will hit 2 enemies while not touching Charizard. However it's not really worth Ninetails using Earthquake because it has a low base attack, however Ninetails AND Charizard both learn Heat Wave, an AoE Fire Move that's boosted not only by STAB that is Same Type Attribute Bonus (you see cause Heat Wave is a fire move and they are Fire Types, it's worth pointing out STBA because I doubt you have the braincells to realize that pokemon can learn moves that are outside their type both naturally and through breeding/TMs/Move Tutors.)

So do I return Ninetails? my Drought remains in play even if I return it, Where on the battle field do I place it? What are my 3 OTHER pokemon that work in support of this team, should Ninetails be a Status machine with Will-O-Wisp, Solar Beam, Hex and Confuse Ray? Being able to cause Burn and Confusion 100% along with Hex hitting for critical damage due to status effects and Solar Beam being a constant 120 attack fired every turn?

How about Charizard? what attacks? should I focus on his Special or Physical attacks? I have to worry about Stealth Rock coming in and fucking him up so I need a rapid spinner. And shit man how many counters? Politoed with Drizzle anyone? there's over 600 pokemon and we haven't got a defined Overused Tier yet for Gen V but I can tell you off the top of my head Gollurk and Conkledurr are going to be fucking scary to face.

And thats just Triple battles, Rotation battles! Who the fuck attacks, I got 3 Pokemon and 3 targets to choose from, I don't know if they'll switch or keep going with their 3 Pokemon in those same positions, I might end up falling into a trap or not saving a pokemon I could have.

So tell me, is 3 on 3 not innovative? if not tell me the other RPG with 3 on 3 battles where you get that much depth, where your equipped item, ability, and attacks not only influence that pokemon but also it's team members and opponents.

I'm waiting.
 

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hctib_elttil said:
serperior gets an ability that when ever its stats would be lowered they are instead raised by that amount instead
including leaf storm which normaly drops its special attack but 2 would now raise its spec attack by 2
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?!
 

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While the Global Link site's been up for the last 2 days, I was only able to get into the Dream World just over an hour ago. For those that are frustrated with it sticking at 0% - trust me, it's loading, keep waiting.

Bit cheesed off that the only Pokémon I managed to snag today was a Doduo with Tangled Feet (+20% evasion when confused). Bit silly, but if I decide to give it the push for the late-game when it'll learn Thrash (~Lv.50), it'll probably be the most pointless ability ever. At least Thrash has had its attack power upped to make it somewhat worthwhile. *shrug*
 

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I have an action replay already, why do I need this except for the novelty? Give us some social interraction please, that's what matters.
 

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Ok so I had a go with it sending in my Liepard (also I found out that my Pokemon team got Pokerus :D). The only game I suck at is that finding a Pokemon within a area and I have no idea how that ice cream work (I was able to stack abit with a large ice cream, WTF where is the physic?). I end up taking a Bellsprout with me (well it was either that or Ratatta or Sentret). Overall I say it's a cool feature although I find it's abit long to send your Pokemon asleep.
 

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brodie21 said:
i dont know anything about pokemon, but how is 'drought' overpowered? i read the thing and apparently it just makes the game sunny. WTF?
Sun boosts the power of fire moves, reduces the power of water moves, causes Solarbeam (an incredibly powerful grass move) to become instant cast (it normally takes a turn to charge), and any pokemon with the ability chlorophyll speeds up in the sun. In addition, drought induced sun doesn't dispel over time. Solar beam spam.
 

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mew4ever23 said:
brodie21 said:
i dont know anything about pokemon, but how is 'drought' overpowered? i read the thing and apparently it just makes the game sunny. WTF?
Sun boosts the power of fire moves, reduces the power of water moves, causes Solarbeam (an incredibly powerful grass move) to become instant cast (it normally takes a turn to charge), and any pokemon with the ability chlorophyll speeds up in the sun. In addition, drought induced sun doesn't dispel over time. Solar beam spam.
And we can't forget that Leaf Guard prevents status afflictions when sunny.

Tyranitar can stop it though along with any other weather changer besides Sunny Day, so I wouldn't say it's "overpowered"
 

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hctib_elttil said:
serperior gets an ability that when ever its stats would be lowered they are instead raised by that amount instead
including leaf storm which normaly drops its special attack but 2 would now raise its spec attack by 2
Its not like serperior isn't already overpowered with its base stats and access to coil.
 

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Hahaha as soon as I saw this I thought "Now I can go get a Ninetails with Drought!" and then you mentioned it!
 

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Basically most of the meta-game will have to start from scratch.
They should move both Drizzle-Politoad and Drought-Ninetails up to balance, they will be so broken on weather teams. But its way to soon to call anything, so many untested teams and tactics just became available for over 600 pokemon.
Even new items are making diversity viable in this game, chancy or gligar with the pre-evolution stone are both viable over they're fully evolved forms now with the stats boost.

So hard to keep current on this shit now.
 

Plurralbles

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just more convoluted bullshit from the pokemon team. How about you guys actualy create a way to catch all hte pokemon in the wild or something intelligent like that?
 

Comic Sans

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Mittens The Kitten said:
hctib_elttil said:
serperior gets an ability that when ever its stats would be lowered they are instead raised by that amount instead
including leaf storm which normaly drops its special attack but 2 would now raise its spec attack by 2
Its not like serperior isn't already overpowered with its base stats and access to coil.
Serperior is pretty bad. Contrarian is totally wasted on it, since with that ability it cannot use Coil, since it lowers stats instead, and it's only boosting move is Leaf Storm, which a lot of stuff resists. It's a decent supporter with Glare and the like, but is really not good with it's movepool.
 

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Who are Smogon exactly? Why do they decide who gets used? I've been to their site a lot and I understand the tiering system, but how do they police our end game matches?
 

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Furrama said:
Who are Smogon exactly? Why do they decide who gets used? I've been to their site a lot and I understand the tiering system, but how do they police our end game matches?
Smogon is the site that sets the generally accepted rules of the online scene. They aren't used everywhere, but most people pay attention to their tiering and rulesets, since Pokemon is a very unbalanced game, and Smogon does it's best to test things out and make rules/bans that keep it as balanced as possible.
 

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Comic Sans said:
Furrama said:
Who are Smogon exactly? Why do they decide who gets used? I've been to their site a lot and I understand the tiering system, but how do they police our end game matches?
Smogon is the site that sets the generally accepted rules of the online scene. They aren't used everywhere, but most people pay attention to their tiering and rulesets, since Pokemon is a very unbalanced game, and Smogon does it's best to test things out and make rules/bans that keep it as balanced as possible.
So, it's an honor code thing?

If the game is so unbalanced, why doesn't Gamefreak/Nintendo try to balance it better? It's kinda sad if end game trainers have to use an honor code to keep things together. From what I understand it has only gotten worse since gen 4 in this regard. They have a good chunk of non legendary pokemon banned already.