[Politics] Nazis Attack LGBT Pride Parade

[CaitSeith]

You conflate 'nazis' with other nationalist and populist groups which only serves to drive them towards the nazi cause.

You are laying a nasty Catch-22. If those groups have all the same goals and ideologies than the nazi, then they are just nazis with a different color. If all that was it needed for them to join is Saelune's accusations, then they were just waiting for an excuse (and nazis will just make up one for them when there is none). And a pretty big issue is that those groups do no effort to keep nazis away from them, which ends up in radicalizing their members, no matter what the left does.

 

[TheIronRuler]

You conflate 'nazis' with other nationalist and populist groups which only serves to drive them towards the nazi cause.

You are laying a nasty Catch-22. If those groups have all the same goals and ideologies than the nazi, then they are just nazis with a different color. If all that was it needed for them to join is Saelune's accusations, then they were just waiting for an excuse (and nazis will just make up one for them when there is none). And a pretty big issue is that those groups do no effort to keep nazis away from them, which ends up in radicalizing their members, no matter what the left does.

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Yes. If only Saelune would stop accusing them, there will be no more nazis.

I sense hostility because I ask to treat these people as reasonable humans, that can be convinced to stop what they're doing... and understand their mistakes. If you read my earlier posts, you could understand better my suggestions.

You seem to have trouble with reading comprehension when it comes to my posts. Maybe it's just because English isn't my first language, I don't know. Could be because you refuse to actually try to understand my points at all.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

I know what happened when 'we' opened dialogue with the Nazis. They were allowed to annex the Saarland, and re-militarize the Rhineland without much protest. By the time of Ribbentrop-Molotov and the invasion of Poland Germany was not someone you could have a dialogue with. The strange last attempt of any dialogue was Rudolf Hess flying over to the UK and getting his ass landed in prison.

A much more recent example of this happening would be National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43 (1977) which resulted in the court upholding free speech rights, and no Sudatenlands ended up getting annexed. It's almost like contemporary American politics are vastly different than WWII and that one cannot apply the same rules of engagement without sounding like a hyperbolic lunatic who sees a fascist behind every tree.

As for these people, they committed a litany of crimes against people and property (seriously, if you want to destroy flags to make a political point, buy your own) and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Considering they were considerate enough to commit their crimes in front of cameras, it should be an easy prosecution. You can always write in to the DA's office about this if you think they're moving too slow on it.

Call up the boys, resurrect the Black Panthers and use your god-given right to carry firearms and scare the crap out of white people.

That's also an option. Those of us on the right will absolutely never give up our firearms, period, end of conversation, and the same rights to bear arms apply equally to those on the left.

 

[TheIronRuler]

I know what happened when 'we' opened dialogue with the Nazis. They were allowed to annex the Saarland, and re-militarize the Rhineland without much protest. By the time of Ribbentrop-Molotov and the invasion of Poland Germany was not someone you could have a dialogue with. The strange last attempt of any dialogue was Rudolf Hess flying over to the UK and getting his ass landed in prison.

A much more recent example of this happening would be National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43 (1977) which resulted in the court upholding free speech rights, and no Sudatenlands ended up getting annexed. It's almost like contemporary American politics are vastly different than WWII and that one cannot apply the same rules of engagement without sounding like a hyperbolic lunatic who sees a fascist behind every tree.

As for these people, they committed a litany of crimes against people and property and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Considering they were considerate enough to commit their crimes in front of cameras, it should be an easy prosecution. You can always write in to the DA's office about this if you think they're moving too slow on it.

Call up the boys, resurrect the Black Panthers and use your god-given right to carry firearms and scare the crap out of white people.

That's also an option. Those of us on the right will absolutely never give up our firearms, period, end of conversation, and the same rights to bear arms apply equally to those on the left.

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You did an oopsie on the quote earlier.

I was flexing my history nerd knowledge. It's irrelevant here, but I felt a need to do it.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

I know what happened when 'we' opened dialogue with the Nazis. They were allowed to annex the Saarland, and re-militarize the Rhineland without much protest. By the time of Ribbentrop-Molotov and the invasion of Poland Germany was not someone you could have a dialogue with. The strange last attempt of any dialogue was Rudolf Hess flying over to the UK and getting his ass landed in prison.

A much more recent example of this happening would be National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43 (1977) which resulted in the court upholding free speech rights, and no Sudatenlands ended up getting annexed. It's almost like contemporary American politics are vastly different than WWII and that one cannot apply the same rules of engagement without sounding like a hyperbolic lunatic who sees a fascist behind every tree.

As for these people, they committed a litany of crimes against people and property and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Considering they were considerate enough to commit their crimes in front of cameras, it should be an easy prosecution. You can always write in to the DA's office about this if you think they're moving too slow on it.

Call up the boys, resurrect the Black Panthers and use your god-given right to carry firearms and scare the crap out of white people.

That's also an option. Those of us on the right will absolutely never give up our firearms, period, end of conversation, and the same rights to bear arms apply equally to those on the left.

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You did an oopsie on the quote earlier.

I was flexing my history nerd knowledge. It's irrelevant here, but I felt a need to do it.

I'm not sure I understand what my oopsie was.

 

[TheIronRuler]

I know what happened when 'we' opened dialogue with the Nazis. They were allowed to annex the Saarland, and re-militarize the Rhineland without much protest. By the time of Ribbentrop-Molotov and the invasion of Poland Germany was not someone you could have a dialogue with. The strange last attempt of any dialogue was Rudolf Hess flying over to the UK and getting his ass landed in prison.

A much more recent example of this happening would be National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43 (1977) which resulted in the court upholding free speech rights, and no Sudatenlands ended up getting annexed. It's almost like contemporary American politics are vastly different than WWII and that one cannot apply the same rules of engagement without sounding like a hyperbolic lunatic who sees a fascist behind every tree.

As for these people, they committed a litany of crimes against people and property and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Considering they were considerate enough to commit their crimes in front of cameras, it should be an easy prosecution. You can always write in to the DA's office about this if you think they're moving too slow on it.

Call up the boys, resurrect the Black Panthers and use your god-given right to carry firearms and scare the crap out of white people.

That's also an option. Those of us on the right will absolutely never give up our firearms, period, end of conversation, and the same rights to bear arms apply equally to those on the left.

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You did an oopsie on the quote earlier.

I was flexing my history nerd knowledge. It's irrelevant here, but I felt a need to do it.

I'm not sure I understand what my oopsie was.

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You quoted my paragraph, when the post was attributed to Saelune. So either you meant to quote me, or you thought Saelune wrote that.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

I know what happened when 'we' opened dialogue with the Nazis. They were allowed to annex the Saarland, and re-militarize the Rhineland without much protest. By the time of Ribbentrop-Molotov and the invasion of Poland Germany was not someone you could have a dialogue with. The strange last attempt of any dialogue was Rudolf Hess flying over to the UK and getting his ass landed in prison.

A much more recent example of this happening would be National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43 (1977) which resulted in the court upholding free speech rights, and no Sudatenlands ended up getting annexed. It's almost like contemporary American politics are vastly different than WWII and that one cannot apply the same rules of engagement without sounding like a hyperbolic lunatic who sees a fascist behind every tree.

As for these people, they committed a litany of crimes against people and property and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Considering they were considerate enough to commit their crimes in front of cameras, it should be an easy prosecution. You can always write in to the DA's office about this if you think they're moving too slow on it.

Call up the boys, resurrect the Black Panthers and use your god-given right to carry firearms and scare the crap out of white people.

That's also an option. Those of us on the right will absolutely never give up our firearms, period, end of conversation, and the same rights to bear arms apply equally to those on the left.

.
You did an oopsie on the quote earlier.

I was flexing my history nerd knowledge. It's irrelevant here, but I felt a need to do it.

I'm not sure I understand what my oopsie was.

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You quoted my paragraph, when the post was attributed to Saelune. So either you meant to quote me, or you thought Saelune wrote that.

Ahhh, sorry, my mistake there. Very sorry about that.

 

[ObsidianJones_v1legacy]

Ok, you seem to have it sorted out.

I'm sorry to welcome you into this life. But I'm glad we have more with their head screwed on.

I appreciate you wanting me to have my head clear when doing this. Thank you.

Hey, you're apart of my community. I look out for my community.

You're also pretty awesome, so that helps.

 

[Saelune]

Oh no, a couple of assholes attacked a pride parade.
Let's round up every white guy and accuse them of being war criminals.

Strange, when people within the BLM movement was destroying shops, shooting people and generally being a complete load of assholes, we heard constantly that a few bad examples don't override the entire movement.

I guess the same doesn't apply when it's white people asking to uphold their freedom of speech. Seems a little racist to me.

This post is The Lunatic defending literal Nazis.

 

[Armadox]

Oh no, a couple of assholes attacked a pride parade.
Let's round up every white guy and accuse them of being war criminals.

Strange, when people within the BLM movement was destroying shops, shooting people and generally being a complete load of assholes, we heard constantly that a few bad examples don't override the entire movement.

I guess the same doesn't apply when it's white people asking to uphold their freedom of speech. Seems a little racist to me.

Fuck you on about, the "White People" in this scenario are literal fucking Nazi. You are white knighting literal fucking Nazi. Nazi that showed up with weapons prepared. Showed up with a fucking lawyer and cameras in hopes that they could push and bully and threaten, knowing they'd be fed lines after the violence broke out to keep themselves out of jail. No one's fucking trying to round up all white people, but they sure as shit can have an issue with people who affiliate with actual god damn war criminals. A few bad examples don't override the entire movement. The fucking movement is god damn NAZIS.

Walk away, Clown Shoes. This is fucking armed Nazis coming to attack a pride parade. This isn't about freedom of speech if they're plan was at best to get punched in the face and gleefully shoot someone.

Hell's wrong with you?

 

[Saelune]

You conflate 'nazis' with other nationalist and populist groups which only serves to drive them towards the nazi cause.

You are laying a nasty Catch-22. If those groups have all the same goals and ideologies than the nazi, then they are just nazis with a different color. If all that was it needed for them to join is Saelune's accusations, then they were just waiting for an excuse (and nazis will just make up one for them when there is none). And a pretty big issue is that those groups do no effort to keep nazis away from them, which ends up in radicalizing their members, no matter what the left does.

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Yes. If only Saelune would stop accusing them, there will be no more nazis.

I sense hostility because I ask to treat these people as reasonable humans, that can be convinced to stop what they're doing... and understand their mistakes. If you read my earlier posts, you could understand better my suggestions.

You seem to have trouble with reading comprehension when it comes to my posts. Maybe it's just because English isn't my first language, I don't know. Could be because you refuse to actually try to understand my points at all.

They are not reasonable humans, they are Nazis. If they were reasonable humans, they would not be Nazis. They are literally supporting a objectively genocidal movement that caused a World War that killed millions of people. Over 16 million was just them rounding up people for being Jewish, LGBT, and infirm, putting them in torture/extermination camps, and torturing and exterminating them.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Eines_von_3_Massengr?bern_in_Bergen-Belsen%2C_so_wie_es_von_den_Befreiern_vorgefunden_wurde%2C_1945.jpg

That is why Nazis are not to be reasoned with, for they are beyond reason.

 

[Saelune]

Oh no, a couple of assholes attacked a pride parade.
Let's round up every white guy and accuse them of being war criminals.

Strange, when people within the BLM movement was destroying shops, shooting people and generally being a complete load of assholes, we heard constantly that a few bad examples don't override the entire movement.

I guess the same doesn't apply when it's white people asking to uphold their freedom of speech. Seems a little racist to me.

Fuck you on about, the "White People" in this scenario are literal fucking Nazi. You are white knighting literal fucking Nazi. Nazi that showed up with weapons prepared. Showed up with a fucking lawyer and cameras in hopes that they could push and bully and threaten, knowing they'd be fed lines after the violence broke out to keep themselves out of jail. No one's fucking trying to round up all white people, but they sure as shit can have an issue with people who affiliate with actual god damn war criminals. A few bad examples don't override the entire movement. The fucking movement is god damn NAZIS.

Walk away, Clown Shoes. This is fucking armed Nazis coming to attack a pride parade. This isn't about freedom of speech if they're plan was at best to get punched in the face and gleefully shoot someone.

Hell's wrong with you?

I find I get in more trouble pointing out the bigots than the bigots do saying bigoted things, or I would say exactly what is wrong with them.

 

[Nedoras]

Oh no, a couple of assholes attacked a pride parade.
Let's round up every white guy and accuse them of being war criminals.

Strange, when people within the BLM movement was destroying shops, shooting people and generally being a complete load of assholes, we heard constantly that a few bad examples don't override the entire movement.

I guess the same doesn't apply when it's white people asking to uphold their freedom of speech. Seems a little racist to me.

I mean, I get you're a longtime troll n' all, but don't you think that this kind of blows any vague iota of credibility that you have? This is really damn low effort, and you gave up the ghost pretty much immediately. This "defense" doesn't even make any sense. It's almost like you're responding to a different topic.

 

[ObsidianJones_v1legacy]

Oh no, a couple of assholes attacked a pride parade.
Let's round up every white guy and accuse them of being war criminals.

Strange, when people within the BLM movement was destroying shops, shooting people and generally being a complete load of assholes, we heard constantly that a few bad examples don't override the entire movement.

I guess the same doesn't apply when it's white people asking to uphold their freedom of speech. Seems a little racist to me.

Here's the two issues with your statement.

1.) They can be 'a couple of assholes' if they were just some guys who came together. They can still be just a couple of assholes even if over 50% of them belonged to any hate group.

But these aren't a couple of assholes. You are purposefully downplaying the situation because of whatever reason. Separate Parades across the country had these White National Groups in their uniform marching in step. That's not a couple of guys just being jerks. That's a borderline declaration of war.

2.) As a lot of people are saying, this is actually the limit. Your creditably is certified Gone at this moment. This is reality warping to the extreme. I don't know what you thought you would gain by this post, but I assure you that it didn't happen.

 

[The Lunatic]

Here's the two issues with your statement.

1.) They can be 'a couple of assholes' if they were just some guys who came together. They can still be just a couple of assholes even if over 50% of them belonged to any hate group.

But these aren't a couple of assholes. You are purposefully downplaying the situation because of whatever reason. Separate Parades across the country had these White National Groups in their uniform marching in step. That's not a couple of guys just being jerks. That's a borderline declaration of war.

Non-violent groups shouldn't be marred by the actions of a few violent individuals.

I guess by this logic, when BLM was calling for cops to be killed, and when on of their supporters actually went out and killed a few police officers, that was also a declaration of war?

2.) As a lot of people are saying, this is actually the limit. Your creditably is certified Gone at this moment. This is reality warping to the extreme. I don't know what you thought you would gain by this post, but I assure you that it didn't happen.

I'm not entirely sure why you think I'd care. I've no desire for respect from those who want to remove rights from others.

 

[Abomination]

I am completely against the idea that people should be arrested or punished because of their political views, no matter how abhorrent they may be.

But when one breaks the law they should be punished with the same severity as any other, and especially should not be able to get away with it due to fear from their political association.

If they were violent, they should have been arrested for violence.

 

[Smithnikov_v1legacy]

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[The Lunatic]

I've no desire for respect from those who want to remove rights from others.

Then why are you seeking it from the right wing? Who incidentally hosted a conference lately about people you like you need to be killed.

http://vozwire.com/make-america-straight-again-conference-sparks-controversy-about-censorship/

I'm not.
I simply respect the right to the freedom of speech.

 

[Terminal Blue]

I'm not.
I simply respect the right to the freedom of speech.

Dude, you can drop the act.

Everyone here knows what you are.

 

[Smithnikov_v1legacy]

I've no desire for respect from those who want to remove rights from others.

Then why are you seeking it from the right wing? Who incidentally hosted a conference lately about people you like you need to be killed.

http://vozwire.com/make-america-straight-again-conference-sparks-controversy-about-censorship/

I'm not.
I simply respect the right to the freedom of speech.

So you also were against Alabama banning the airing of the gay marriage episode of "Arthur", for example?