[Politics] Trump and Concentration Camps

[Thaluikhain]

It just keeps getting worse with the attacks on Ilhan. Is he trying to get her killed?

Stochastic terrorism/"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" is quite likely, but he doesn't need to kill her, just make it obvious to everyone that his cultists might have a go. Even if they don't scare her off, they'll probably scare some people into silence or inaction, and I don't blame them for being scared.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Trump is an anti-semitic, US soldier hating, vulgar obsenety spewing piece of Nazi garbage who runs cocnentration camps to torture and murder children to brown for him to be sexually aroused by, because he is also a pedophile who wants to fuck his own daughter.

Do you think it's possible you're being a wee bit hyperbolic here? Because that's quite a laundry list of accusations.

Are you pro-Trump?

I voted for Trump in the primaries in 2016 and in the general election in 2020. And plan on doing so in 2020.

Draw your own conclusions.

You are a nazi, bigot and a racist!!! reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

You know, for someone who is apparently a racist fascist Nazi, I'm doing a pretty bad job at it.

 

[CaitSeith]

Trump is an anti-semitic, US soldier hating, vulgar obsenety spewing piece of Nazi garbage who runs cocnentration camps to torture and murder children to brown for him to be sexually aroused by, because he is also a pedophile who wants to fuck his own daughter.

Do you think it's possible you're being a wee bit hyperbolic here? Because that's quite a laundry list of accusations.

Are you pro-Trump?

I voted for Trump in the primaries in 2016 and in the general election in 2020. And plan on doing so in 2020.

Draw your own conclusions.

You are a nazi, bigot and a racist!!! reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

You know, for someone who is apparently a racist fascist Nazi, I'm doing a pretty bad job at it.

I didn't see you on at the Nuremberg trials, so I disagree with that statement.

 

[Kwak]

Trump is an anti-semitic, US soldier hating, vulgar obsenety spewing piece of Nazi garbage who runs cocnentration camps to torture and murder children to brown for him to be sexually aroused by, because he is also a pedophile who wants to fuck his own daughter.

Do you think it's possible you're being a wee bit hyperbolic here? Because that's quite a laundry list of accusations.

Are you pro-Trump?

I voted for Trump in the primaries in 2016 and in the general election in 2020. And plan on doing so in 2020.

Draw your own conclusions.

You are a nazi, bigot and a racist!!! reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

You know, for someone who is apparently a racist fascist Nazi, I'm doing a pretty bad job at it.

You mean apart from voting to put the racist fascist Nazi's in power? Yeah, really doing your part for the resistance there.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

I didn't see you on at the Nuremberg trials, so I disagree with that statement.

Brings back memories of when I had to re-argue Nuremberg trials for an academic assignment. Fun times, fun times.

You mean apart from voting to put the racist fascist Nazi's in power? Yeah, really doing your part for the resistance there.

I disagree with the assessment of Trump as a Fascist or a Nazi. I also disagree with the assessment that anyone who voted for or plans to vote for Trump is somehow a Nazi.

Also, there's a difference between denying Nazi-hood and asserting an active role in the opposition to Trump.

 

[Palindromemordnilap_v1legacy]

It just keeps getting worse with the attacks on Ilhan. Is he trying to get her killed?

I mean, would you put it past him? I don't think he'd shed any tears if one of his supporters did actually manage to assassinate her, and he'd certainly try and blame her for it

 

[Baffle]

I mean, would you put it past him? I don't think he'd shed any tears if one of his supporters did actually manage to assassinate her, and he'd certainly try and blame her for it

Yeah, but he'd offer thoughts and prayers, because that's the American way.

 

[Saelune]

Trump is an anti-semitic, US soldier hating, vulgar obsenety spewing piece of Nazi garbage who runs cocnentration camps to torture and murder children to brown for him to be sexually aroused by, because he is also a pedophile who wants to fuck his own daughter.

Do you think it's possible you're being a wee bit hyperbolic here? Because that's quite a laundry list of accusations.

Are you pro-Trump?

I voted for Trump in the primaries in 2016 and in the general election in 2020. And plan on doing so in 2020.

Draw your own conclusions.

You are a nazi, bigot and a racist!!! reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

You know, for someone who is apparently a racist fascist Nazi, I'm doing a pretty bad job at it.

At least you're admitting your beliefs, its a step forward.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

Trump is an anti-semitic, US soldier hating, vulgar obsenety spewing piece of Nazi garbage who runs cocnentration camps to torture and murder children to brown for him to be sexually aroused by, because he is also a pedophile who wants to fuck his own daughter.

Do you think it's possible you're being a wee bit hyperbolic here? Because that's quite a laundry list of accusations.

Are you pro-Trump?

I voted for Trump in the primaries in 2016 and in the general election in 2016. And plan on doing so in 2020.

Draw your own conclusions.

I honestly thought you were better than that. I guess that is what I get for thinking. I thought you valued access to healthcare and keeping us out of war with Iran more than you cared about gun control that will never happen regardless of who is president. You can be sure that if Trump wins 2020, millions will lose access to healthcare in the US and US will be not only be spending more on military, the US will likely be at open war with Iran since he doesn't have to worry about what anyone thinks about him at that point. That part is pretty much guaranteed. People have been holding him back on these issues, but he has made it clear how he really feels about it. He will have fired all of his handlers by then and will just do as he pleases. I am sure he will have found a way around congress to make sure he supplies Saudi Arabia with Nuclear tech and more weapons as well since he has openly expressed his determination to do so.

I don't see how you could support such a scum bag tbh. And yea, he does seem to fit the definition of a fascist at this point so I am not sure how anyone can really deny that now that he has opened up about how he really feels.

EDIT: People had the benefit of the doubt about what he would do when they voted for him in 2016 due to trump claiming to every stance on every issue to be his own, but now there is no such benefit given as he has proven that everyone's worst fears about him were true and he did far more damage than they thought possible. There is no excuse for someone to vote for him in 2020 now that he has shown who he is, the horrible things he ahs done to the US and what he represents.

In the end , it is Trump's supporters who are directly responsible for the people being poisoned by the chemicals Trump's EPA approved, the people who will die due to loss of their healthcare, the people being tortured and abused under his immigration policy, the loss of medical research, the destruction to US agriculture, and irreparable damage being done to our waters, soil and air due to Trump's ignorance of understanding of science. Casting a vote for someone to represent you also means you are responsible for the horrors they commit with the power they would not have had otherwise if you did not give them that power to do these things. In the end, yes it is the voters who should hold themselves accountable for the actions of those they deem worthy of their vote, because in the end it was their fault that this was allowed to happen and history will remember them as the ones who did this to their people and their nation.

 

[Trunkage]

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CM, as a supporter of stopping immigrants from entering the US freely, do you think these camps are a good solution? Or adequate or bad?

How long should they stay in these camps?

If it becomes like Australia and it's 7 years they've been in camps, is that too long?

Should Trump deport them immediately and save all this hassle?

Do you think this will have any impact on illegal immigration?

 

[Trunkage]

Trump is an anti-semitic, US soldier hating, vulgar obsenety spewing piece of Nazi garbage who runs cocnentration camps to torture and murder children to brown for him to be sexually aroused by, because he is also a pedophile who wants to fuck his own daughter.

Do you think it's possible you're being a wee bit hyperbolic here? Because that's quite a laundry list of accusations.

Are you pro-Trump?

I voted for Trump in the primaries in 2016 and in the general election in 2016. And plan on doing so in 2020.

Draw your own conclusions.

I honestly thought you were better than that. I guess that is what I get for thinking. I thought you valued access to healthcare and keeping us out of war with Iran more than you cared about gun control that will never happen regardless of who is president. You can be sure that if Trump wins 2020, millions will lose access to healthcare in the US and US will be not only be spending more on military, the US will likely be at open war with Iran since he doesn't have to worry about what anyone thinks about him at that point. That part is pretty much guaranteed. People have been holding him back on these issues, but he has made it clear how he really feels about it. He will have fired all of his handlers by then and will just do as he pleases. I am sure he will have found a way around congress to make sure he supplies Saudi Arabia with Nuclear tech and more weapons as well since he has openly expressed his determination to do so.

I don't see how you could support such a scum bag tbh. And yea, he does seem to fit the definition of a fascist at this point so I am not sure how anyone can really deny that now that he has opened up about how he really feels.

EDIT: People had the benefit of the doubt about what he would do when they voted for him in 2016 due to trump claiming to every stance on every issue to be his own, but now there is no such benefit given as he has proven that everyone's worst fears about him were true and he did far more damage than they thought possible. There is no excuse for someone to vote for him in 2020 now that he has shown who he is, the horrible things he ahs done to the US and what he represents.

In the end , it is Trump's supporters who are directly responsible for the people being poisoned by the chemicals Trump's EPA approved, the people who will die due to loss of their healthcare, the people being tortured and abused under his immigration policy, the loss of medical research, the destruction to US agriculture, and irreparable damage being done to our waters, soil and air due to Trump's ignorance of understanding of science. Casting a vote for someone to represent you also means you are responsible for the horrors they commit with the power they would not have had otherwise if you did not give them that power to do these things. In the end, yes it is the voters who should hold themselves accountable for the actions of those they deem worthy of their vote, because in the end it was their fault that this was allowed to happen and history will remember them as the ones who did this to their people and their nation.

You keep thinking any of these are selling points to a conservative. They, generally, are not

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

Trump is an anti-semitic, US soldier hating, vulgar obsenety spewing piece of Nazi garbage who runs cocnentration camps to torture and murder children to brown for him to be sexually aroused by, because he is also a pedophile who wants to fuck his own daughter.

Do you think it's possible you're being a wee bit hyperbolic here? Because that's quite a laundry list of accusations.

Are you pro-Trump?

I voted for Trump in the primaries in 2016 and in the general election in 2016. And plan on doing so in 2020.

Draw your own conclusions.

I honestly thought you were better than that. I guess that is what I get for thinking. I thought you valued access to healthcare and keeping us out of war with Iran more than you cared about gun control that will never happen regardless of who is president. You can be sure that if Trump wins 2020, millions will lose access to healthcare in the US and US will be not only be spending more on military, the US will likely be at open war with Iran since he doesn't have to worry about what anyone thinks about him at that point. That part is pretty much guaranteed. People have been holding him back on these issues, but he has made it clear how he really feels about it. He will have fired all of his handlers by then and will just do as he pleases. I am sure he will have found a way around congress to make sure he supplies Saudi Arabia with Nuclear tech and more weapons as well since he has openly expressed his determination to do so.

I don't see how you could support such a scum bag tbh. And yea, he does seem to fit the definition of a fascist at this point so I am not sure how anyone can really deny that now that he has opened up about how he really feels.

EDIT: People had the benefit of the doubt about what he would do when they voted for him in 2016 due to trump claiming to every stance on every issue to be his own, but now there is no such benefit given as he has proven that everyone's worst fears about him were true and he did far more damage than they thought possible. There is no excuse for someone to vote for him in 2020 now that he has shown who he is, the horrible things he ahs done to the US and what he represents.

In the end , it is Trump's supporters who are directly responsible for the people being poisoned by the chemicals Trump's EPA approved, the people who will die due to loss of their healthcare, the people being tortured and abused under his immigration policy, the loss of medical research, the destruction to US agriculture, and irreparable damage being done to our waters, soil and air due to Trump's ignorance of understanding of science. Casting a vote for someone to represent you also means you are responsible for the horrors they commit with the power they would not have had otherwise if you did not give them that power to do these things. In the end, yes it is the voters who should hold themselves accountable for the actions of those they deem worthy of their vote, because in the end it was their fault that this was allowed to happen and history will remember them as the ones who did this to their people and their nation.

You keep thinking any of these are selling points to a conservative. They, generally, are not

They certainly have been in the past. Generally conservatives care about having healthy public lands for them to hunt and fish in, Bush had expanded medicare and medicaid and pushed for Amnesty for millions of immigrants. We have numerous church leaders advocating for the immigrants in detention as we speak. This brand of racist, "fake Christian", pro con artist get mine and screw everyone else destroying everything they touch Trumpism that has been pushed recently is why so many republicans have been abandoning the party. Trump is the opposite of what many republicans have been promoting for years, bringing the party back to a horrific time in history rather than actually trying to present themselves as somewhat decent human beings.

 

[Trunkage]

Trump is an anti-semitic, US soldier hating, vulgar obsenety spewing piece of Nazi garbage who runs cocnentration camps to torture and murder children to brown for him to be sexually aroused by, because he is also a pedophile who wants to fuck his own daughter.

Do you think it's possible you're being a wee bit hyperbolic here? Because that's quite a laundry list of accusations.

Are you pro-Trump?

I voted for Trump in the primaries in 2016 and in the general election in 2016. And plan on doing so in 2020.

Draw your own conclusions.

I honestly thought you were better than that. I guess that is what I get for thinking. I thought you valued access to healthcare and keeping us out of war with Iran more than you cared about gun control that will never happen regardless of who is president. You can be sure that if Trump wins 2020, millions will lose access to healthcare in the US and US will be not only be spending more on military, the US will likely be at open war with Iran since he doesn't have to worry about what anyone thinks about him at that point. That part is pretty much guaranteed. People have been holding him back on these issues, but he has made it clear how he really feels about it. He will have fired all of his handlers by then and will just do as he pleases. I am sure he will have found a way around congress to make sure he supplies Saudi Arabia with Nuclear tech and more weapons as well since he has openly expressed his determination to do so.

I don't see how you could support such a scum bag tbh. And yea, he does seem to fit the definition of a fascist at this point so I am not sure how anyone can really deny that now that he has opened up about how he really feels.

EDIT: People had the benefit of the doubt about what he would do when they voted for him in 2016 due to trump claiming to every stance on every issue to be his own, but now there is no such benefit given as he has proven that everyone's worst fears about him were true and he did far more damage than they thought possible. There is no excuse for someone to vote for him in 2020 now that he has shown who he is, the horrible things he ahs done to the US and what he represents.

In the end , it is Trump's supporters who are directly responsible for the people being poisoned by the chemicals Trump's EPA approved, the people who will die due to loss of their healthcare, the people being tortured and abused under his immigration policy, the loss of medical research, the destruction to US agriculture, and irreparable damage being done to our waters, soil and air due to Trump's ignorance of understanding of science. Casting a vote for someone to represent you also means you are responsible for the horrors they commit with the power they would not have had otherwise if you did not give them that power to do these things. In the end, yes it is the voters who should hold themselves accountable for the actions of those they deem worthy of their vote, because in the end it was their fault that this was allowed to happen and history will remember them as the ones who did this to their people and their nation.

You keep thinking any of these are selling points to a conservative. They, generally, are not

They certainly have been in the past. Generally conservatives care about having healthy public lands for them to hunt and fish in, Bush had expanded medicare and medicaid and pushed for Amnesty for millions of immigrants. We have numerous church leaders as we speak advocating for the immigrants in detention as we speak. This brand of racist, "fake Christian", pro con artist get mine and screw everyone else Trumpism that has been pushed recently is why so many republicans have been abandoning the party. Trump is the opposite of republicans have been promoting for years.

A lot of Christian are way liberal. They are definitely against these camps.

A Conservative Christian are those guys who ask you to send in money and display how much wealth they have. Call them fake if you want but they are more conservative than anything else.

Do I think old Republicans could have done these camps? Yes. Obama did similar things to these camps but he was smart enough to do it at the bottom of Mexico and made Mexio cop all the distress about treating people humanely. What Obama did at the US border was far more humane than Trump but his hands aren't clean. All the other Republicans would have continued down Obamas path. The US was always going to put these camps up. Trump just sped up the process by at least a decade because he can make bank off it. The Overton window has been shifting since 1919, Trump was just more visible

This whole shitshow is just to make Trump richer. It's why I don't call him a Fascists. He's a Capitalist. Making bank while hurting people is just the norm.

 

[Saelune]

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I wasn't going to pick a fight with the sheriff over that, but that Vox article is trash. It describes people being detained literally for the amount of time it takes to get them a court appointment as imprisoned indefinitely without trial. The author may know some history, but is supremely lacking on the current events (like everyone here).

I am tired of people telling me not to do the things they themselves are doing.

People telling me not to jump to conclusions as they jump to conclusions, people telling me not to assume someone is guilty on little evidence while assuming others are guilty based on little evidence, people telling me not to be rude while being rude. People telling me not to let my biases cloud my judgement as they blindly let their biases cloud theirs. I believe there is a word for someone who does not follow their own advice.

 

[Marik2]

Trump is an anti-semitic, US soldier hating, vulgar obsenety spewing piece of Nazi garbage who runs cocnentration camps to torture and murder children to brown for him to be sexually aroused by, because he is also a pedophile who wants to fuck his own daughter.

Do you think it's possible you're being a wee bit hyperbolic here? Because that's quite a laundry list of accusations.

Are you pro-Trump?

I voted for Trump in the primaries in 2016 and in the general election in 2016. And plan on doing so in 2020.

Draw your own conclusions.

I honestly thought you were better than that. I guess that is what I get for thinking. I thought you valued access to healthcare and keeping us out of war with Iran more than you cared about gun control that will never happen regardless of who is president. You can be sure that if Trump wins 2020, millions will lose access to healthcare in the US and US will be not only be spending more on military, the US will likely be at open war with Iran since he doesn't have to worry about what anyone thinks about him at that point. That part is pretty much guaranteed. People have been holding him back on these issues, but he has made it clear how he really feels about it. He will have fired all of his handlers by then and will just do as he pleases. I am sure he will have found a way around congress to make sure he supplies Saudi Arabia with Nuclear tech and more weapons as well since he has openly expressed his determination to do so.

I don't see how you could support such a scum bag tbh. And yea, he does seem to fit the definition of a fascist at this point so I am not sure how anyone can really deny that now that he has opened up about how he really feels.

EDIT: People had the benefit of the doubt about what he would do when they voted for him in 2016 due to trump claiming to every stance on every issue to be his own, but now there is no such benefit given as he has proven that everyone's worst fears about him were true and he did far more damage than they thought possible. There is no excuse for someone to vote for him in 2020 now that he has shown who he is, the horrible things he ahs done to the US and what he represents.

In the end , it is Trump's supporters who are directly responsible for the people being poisoned by the chemicals Trump's EPA approved, the people who will die due to loss of their healthcare, the people being tortured and abused under his immigration policy, the loss of medical research, the destruction to US agriculture, and irreparable damage being done to our waters, soil and air due to Trump's ignorance of understanding of science. Casting a vote for someone to represent you also means you are responsible for the horrors they commit with the power they would not have had otherwise if you did not give them that power to do these things. In the end, yes it is the voters who should hold themselves accountable for the actions of those they deem worthy of their vote, because in the end it was their fault that this was allowed to happen and history will remember them as the ones who did this to their people and their nation.

Well said.

 

[tstorm823]

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I wasn't going to pick a fight with the sheriff over that, but that Vox article is trash. It describes people being detained literally for the amount of time it takes to get them a court appointment as imprisoned indefinitely without trial. The author may know some history, but is supremely lacking on the current events (like everyone here).

I am tired of people telling me not to do the things they themselves are doing.

People telling me not to jump to conclusions as they jump to conclusions, people telling me not to assume someone is guilty on little evidence while assuming others are guilty based on little evidence, people telling me not to be rude while being rude. People telling me not to let my biases cloud my judgement as they blindly let their biases cloud theirs. I believe there is a word for someone who does not follow their own advice.

I told you to do nothing in that last post. In the post before, I wanted specific information to contradict my understanding that many of these people turn themselves in voluntarily and those who don't tend to leave detention the same day. You responded with a quote from someone else's post linking an opinion piece written by someone with an understanding of historical genocide but almost no information presented about the actual border situation, and certainly not what I'm asking for to convince me.

You're perfectly welcome to give me nothing, but then if you respond with that nothing, you aren't even attempting to convince me, you are just yelling into the void.

 

[Saelune]

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I wasn't going to pick a fight with the sheriff over that, but that Vox article is trash. It describes people being detained literally for the amount of time it takes to get them a court appointment as imprisoned indefinitely without trial. The author may know some history, but is supremely lacking on the current events (like everyone here).

I am tired of people telling me not to do the things they themselves are doing.

People telling me not to jump to conclusions as they jump to conclusions, people telling me not to assume someone is guilty on little evidence while assuming others are guilty based on little evidence, people telling me not to be rude while being rude. People telling me not to let my biases cloud my judgement as they blindly let their biases cloud theirs. I believe there is a word for someone who does not follow their own advice.

I told you to do nothing in that last post. In the post before, I wanted specific information to contradict my understanding that many of these people turn themselves in voluntarily and those who don't tend to leave detention the same day. You responded with a quote from someone else's post linking an opinion piece written by someone with an understanding of historical genocide but almost no information presented about the actual border situation, and certainly not what I'm asking for to convince me.

You're perfectly welcome to give me nothing, but then if you respond with that nothing, you aren't even attempting to convince me, you are just yelling into the void.

I find you often do not argue in good faith.

 

[lastjustice]

So rather this just continue be anti-trump nonsense spins it's wheels....Let's get the core of the matter.

Saelune, what would you like to see happen to people who come here Illegally? If you were given power change policy to whatever you wanted...what would it be? Instead of just crying Trump is bad, what's a real answer to this situation? I mean are you expecting people just be free roam the country if they come to the border with kids? There's tons of people waiting to legally immigrant into this country. So why should they do that when they can just take matters into their own hands and come right in? It spits in the face of everyone who actually decides wait their turn. I don't feel having kids giving you immunity to the law nor should it. Laws need to be enforced or they don't exist.

It has nothing do with racism to want people who enter are country to do so through legal channels. That's a perfectly reasonable stance. There's millions of people who legally come to this country every year. It's good for the country infact. If someone demanded they wanted live in your house because they are homeless and have kids, you still have right say no. You are no evil for not wanting to take that burden if you can't handle it. America has the right prioritize it's own first over noncitizens. America doesn't need be the world's doormatt to prove it's decent or trying be anyways.

Could the process of becoming a citizen stand be faster and easier? Sure. Could there be a better set up than the one that's been in place since the Obama administration? (which he had more people deported on his watch than Trump has.) Sure, but I don't think we need give them 5 star hotels either. But to go these policy inplace are somehow leading us to nazi germany because Trump is president is pure fiction, because this same methods we've been doing since the 90s when Clinton was in office. None of this is new, and it's suddenly an issue because Trump is at the helm. These places are hardly death camps, and the people in them are either waiting for their hearing or crossed the border illegally. I don't think this situation is beyond criticism but let's have realistic expectations and facts instead just throwing a fit because the media says so. I also don't think it's okay for groups to attack detention centers. How about people denounce these terrorists?

 

[tstorm823]

I find you often do not argue in good faith.

You know I argue in good faith. Prior to this specific topic, you've disagreed with me on other things without ever questioning the authenticity of my positions. But here I'm arguing that the immigration policies of a nation of immigrants aren't built around the purposeful denial of human rights, and for some reason you can't imagine anyone arguing that in good faith.

 

[Saelune]

So rather this just continue be anti-trump nonsense spins it's wheels....Let's get the core of the matter.

Saelune, what would you like to see happen to people who come here Illegally? If you were given power change policy to whatever you wanted...what would it be? Instead of just crying Trump is bad, what's a real answer to this situation? I mean are you expecting people just be free roam the country if they come to the border with kids? There's tons of people waiting to legally immigrant into this country. So why should they do that when they can just take matters into their own hands and come right in? It spits in the face of everyone who actually decides wait their turn. I don't feel having kids giving you immunity to the law nor should it. Laws need to be enforced or they don't exist.

It has nothing do with racism to want people who enter are country to do so through legal channels. That's a perfectly reasonable stance. There's millions of people who legally come to this country every year. It's good for the country infact. If someone demanded they wanted live in your house because they are homeless and have kids, you still have right say no. You are no evil for not wanting to take that burden if you can't handle it. America has the right prioritize it's own first over noncitizens. America doesn't need be the world's doormatt to prove it's decent or trying be anyways.

Could the process of becoming a citizen stand be faster and easier? Sure. Could there be a better set up than the one that's been in place since the Obama administration? (which he had more people deported on his watch than Trump has.) Sure, but I don't think we need give them 5 star hotels either. But to go these policy inplace are somehow leading us to nazi germany because Trump is president is pure fiction, because this same methods we've been doing since the 90s when Clinton was in office. None of this is new, and it's suddenly an issue because Trump is at the helm. These places are hardly death camps, and the people in them are either waiting for their hearing or crossed the border illegally. I don't think this situation is beyond criticism but let's have realistic expectations and facts instead just throwing a fit because the media says so. I also don't think it's okay for groups to attack detention centers. How about people denounce these terrorists?

Trump absolutely made it way worse than it was! Lets stop pretending that Trump hasnt made everything worse than it was, cause he has, consistently. Was it bad before? Yes. And now it is, as I must repeat, worse.

And for all the blame people want to shove onto Obama for this, Trump has made it a personal goal to undo every single thing Obama has his name on...except this, odd that. Oh right, cause he is a racist piece of garbage who delights on tormenting non-whites and children.

We dont need to be actively denying these HUMANS basic needs like soap and toothpaste. That is Trump intentionally hurting people.

We also dont need to be seperating families. A couple of months might be 'ok' for an adult, but for a still developing child? Every single kid in these concentration camps will never fully recover, BECAUSE OF TRUMP.

Want to know what we should do? Give a fuck. You're arguing with a socialist, ie someone who thinks on an ideological level that we all need to get over our selfish greed and help each other, from top to bottom, from the government level to the individual level.

We dont need to shove them into concentration camps to detain them. Instead of wasting money on tanks and bombs and Trump's constant golf vacations, we could be spending it on giving them basic human living conditions.

We can also stop pretending that this country wasnt founded on illegal immigration. It is the utmost hypocrisy to decry immigrants in the US, period.

We have plenty of KKK and Nazis who we should be kicking out if we really want to make room.

Would also help if this country had an accountable police force that was here to actually protect and serve the citizens. Then we could trust that the actual 'bad hombres' are the ones who get punished. I will take an illegal immigrant who doesnt run over innocent women with cars than legal citizens who are Nazis who murder innocent women with cars.

These are people, and we need to start acting like it.