Poll: 40k: Time for a change?

Pandalisk

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JemJar said:
Pandalisk said:
painfull2006 said:
I cant help but feel that an huge Eldar plan should come into play, there number replenished and see where it goes form there :p
If that were to happen the Mind Fuckery all the other races would receive would be unbelievable
It always disappoints me to see that "Mind Fuckery" is all that the Eldar have become. They used to kick arse and take a selection of names. Like Terence, or Barry. Maybe Gerald...
well thats what happens when all they seem to do is be mulipinative arseholes, the Dow games make it seem like they can never fight a battle themselves, not to mention for all their technology their armour is made of cardbourd
 

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Ah, the war-torn galaxy of the far future. Where the carcass of the emperor rots away in his Golden Throne, as it too decays, the knowledge needed to create and maintain such things lost thousands of years ago.

Where Chaos lurks around every corner, strengthened as much by the hatreds of the Imperium as by anything else. And yet, the Imperium remains one of the most reliable means of holding it at bay.

It occurs to me that the threat of Chaos may be fought off by any sufficiently powerful *other* warp-entity. Gork and Mork, for example, make Chaos corruption of Orks very difficult. The overly-aggressive lichen's gods are titanic even by the standards of such things, and could probably stuff Khorne's head into a toilet bowl and flush him until he cried Uncle.

If the Imperium breaks apart and fragments, it will fall to the Adeptus Astartes, and to their counterparts in the Sisterhood to stabilize regions. Robbed of Imperium-granted authority and supplies, they will be forced to negotiate with their sister-states, and humanity in the forty-first millenium might actually *benefit* from the seporation into smaller states.

Infect a toe, and the infection might spread through and kill the entire body. Infect a single ant, and while it may get access to infecting the others, the defenses of each individual must be overcome one by one. Chaos will have no easy time of it.

The Tyranids, they're something else entirely. Their battle lines sweep through thousands of system at once, they're nearly unstoppable.

Nearly. The Orks can do it. The Imperium would need to arm and train virtually every one of their citizens, would need to undergo massive industrial buildup on a scale that even they have never considered, but they could do it. Chaos... the power of the Tyranids in the Warp is beyond monstrous. The Shadow that strangles Astropathic communications and drives men mad before the first hive ship even enters the system is a demon. One single demon, in the sense that all of the world's oceans are a single body of water.

The Eldar cannot hope to hold a static battle line against the Tyranids, but they don't need to. They need only to ensure that their other enemies' paths cross those of the Great Devourer, and allow them to strike at the Hive Fleets with precision and grace.

The Dark Eldar have always been completely screwed. As great a nightmare as they are, there are simply not enough of them to cause true harm to something on the scale of the Orks, or the Tyranids.

The Necrons are dead. A twitching corpse, striking those around it, but the C'tan are fewer in number now that they were before, and I do not think that the Necrons have the capacity to grow any more. For all their recycling, each one of their number that is disintegrated, sucked in to the Warp, or consumed from within by enzymatic toxins tailored to their peculiar living metal is irreplaceable.

The Tau have a chance. If they can keep from being overwhelmed by the green tide of the next Wauuuugh and the one that follows it, if they can survive the unreasoning, unflinching hatred of the Imperium of Man, if they can hold off the portion of the Hive Fleets that comes their way, then it is they who shall become the successors to the Imperium.

And this is a race who chooses their leaders because they smell good. That's probably what makes the Etherial Caste. Pheromones.

And the Chaos Demons. The new army on the block. I think we've got a case of Codex Creep here, but as ever, other players will adapt.


I would like to see the setting grow. See things change. Not necessarily with a focus on the Imperium, as they're not the only ones out there. Changes in the Eldar, clawing themselves back from the position of a dying race. They're recovering slowly, I think, having claimed worlds for their own, in addition to their Craftworlds.

They'd recover faster of they weren't so damn emo.


Oh, and hi everyone. This is me posting when low on sleep!


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McClaud

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teisjm said:
Anything with a well build universe could have a good RPG as well, or a single player action game "Tyranid Chainsword Madness" or something
There is already a 40k RPG out there. It's called Dark Heresy, and Fantasy Flight Games took over publishing it when Games Workshop decided that printing books and RPGs for their IPs was too hard for them.
 

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PedroSteckecilo said:
Maybe they should make the miniatures rules so that they don't suck...

Oh wait...

That's impossible! Because then it might be fair and people wouldn't need to spend as much fricken money on it.

(I like the universe/setting just fine, I just can't stand the miniatures rules)
People don't want 40k tabletop rules to be good.

If they wanted good, interesting rules, they'd be playing other games that have good rules. Since what they want is an essentially childish ruleset with very little interesting tactical choice involved, they play WH40k.

WFB has more interesting choices to make, both in constructing an army list to do something and then in trying to make it do that thing on the table.
 

MIDIsurf 558

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What i have noticed is that GW has started to give back story to places which used to have none. For instance the alpha legion.

I think they are going through a phase where they are giving everything a back story and therefore no major changes coming. i pray that the next major change is to do with the void dragon and the mechanicum.

Im fed up of the ultramarines hogging all the back story and fluff, yes i hate them with a passion.

Heres the legions/chapters with little/no back story

whits scars - ?
imperal fists - bit here and there
iron hands - ?
salamaders - ?
raven guard - ?

emperor's children - until fulgrim
iron warriors - storm of iron
night lords - ?
death guard - until flight
thousand sons - ?
word bearers - ?
alpha legion - until legion
 

MIDIsurf 558

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urprobablyright said:
I agree

Something big and badass has to happen - like the emperor's second coming etc (maybe the emperor could inexplicably come back and then it'd turn out that a chaos god had revived him in order to re-establish a balance)
dout it - they not on the best of terms
 

MIDIsurf 558

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urprobablyright said:
MIDIsurf 558 said:
urprobablyright said:
I agree

Something big and badass has to happen - like the emperor's second coming etc (maybe the emperor could inexplicably come back and then it'd turn out that a chaos god had revived him in order to re-establish a balance)
dout it - they not on the best of terms
I was paying out the matrix - in which agent smith is neo's "balance"

im sure the creators (the people who come up with this stuff) come up with their own stuff.
 

Defenestra

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urprobablyright said:
I agree

Something big and badass has to happen - like the emperor's second coming etc (maybe the emperor could inexplicably come back and then it'd turn out that a chaos god had revived him in order to re-establish a balance)
Any change in the Emperor would result in massive fragmentation of the Imperium. People who believed it, people who did not, people who interpreted it differently. The carnage would be beautiful.

The emperor himself is, at this point, a warp god. I doubt he needs the Golden Throne anymore, but the masses of people sacrificed to him each day likely serve to empower him. Or he thinks it's funny, hard to say.


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Bretty

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I think the OP misses the whole point of the 40k Universe..

I suggest reading the Horus heresy as an intro.

"All there will be is WAR"

Human nature is horrible and at the same time wonderous. Are you telling me you could imagine a human race that spreads over GALAXIES Would be a nice one? They are beset by some of the worst enemies who have succeeded only because they have defeated all others.

I love the IP, the moment I look into it grabs me and shows me things I had not seen before. From marines to the salt of the earth Imperial trooper, just awesome
 

McNinja

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The stagnance of the WH40k universe is due to the fact that it is set right before the climax, and the climax is still (actual) years away. The Eldar have a huge plan, the tyranids have some big freaking space fleet of doom on it's way to our galaxy from a different one, the orks... are just orks (and possibly have more orks outside of our galaxy), the humans are losing technology faster than they are discovering it, as well as the corruption in almost everything, the Tau are growing (i think, i don't read much about the tau), the Necrons still have a few C'Tan to whip put, as well as whatever is in that dyson sphere* floating in space, which could be another C'Tan.

All in all, everything is at about to boil over, but never will, because it would mean that the franchise would be nearing it's end. and that's bad for sales.


* In i believe the Tyranid codex, there is mention of a massive sphereical object, which the Tyranids make a massive point to avoid. It puzzles the Inquisitor as to why they go ahound instead of killing and eating it. It has been speculated (at least on 40k online forums) that it is a dyson sphere, which is essentially a container for a star, to harness it's energy, but since the sphere is moving around the galaxy, it must be something else, and the Outsider (C'Tan) is still missing from the known galaxy, this could be it.
 

sanzo

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Daye.04 said:
Woah, wait! I've got a question. Is there anyone at all that paints regulare Warhammer? Or is it just 40K for everyone. I love my Skaven army, damnit!

Also. I haven't read much about the universe, but I know enough to think it might be a good idea with some changes ...
wooo, skaven. You as excited about the new army book as you should be?
 

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While not a major change, I want them to bring Eldrad back. I suppose it would be a major change if he killed Slaneesh, but that isn't necessary. I just want the Eldar to have their psyker back.
 

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Warhammer 40k is one of the best settings I've ever seen. That being said, it WOULD be interesting if the Imperium worked out some kind of new super weapon... maybe avatars for the Emperor to fight demons. The Eldar need to lose their addiction to Khorne (Khaine), although they'd probably lose a good part of their population in the process. And the Imperium needs to get its act together and recapture Cadia. If the Chaos Marines destroy the Cadian pylons (the things that weaken the influence of the Eye of Terror, read "Eisenhorn" for more details), the universe is pretty screwed, as Chaos will have a real foothold for a full-scale invasion.