Poll: Aion Online, Killer of WoW?!?!

[John Funk]

EVE online FTW!


Seriously, Its like wow, but more mature and with fewer fucktards and griefers.

Wait, what?

Fewer griefers in EVE? Are you serious?

On topic: No, it won't. There is absolutely no chance that Aion will "kill" WoW. It may put a little dent in its subscription numbers, and I expect it to be a success in its own right, but... well, you have to consider that Aion at launch is not competing against WoW at launch, it's competing with WoW with five years extra content + polish under its belt, and WotLK-era WoW is a much more imposing opponent than original WoW ever was.

The only thing that will ever "kill" WoW will be age and the gradual decline of its playerbase. Other games might contribute (Aion, TOR, even Blizzard's own Diablo III and next-gen MMO) but none of them will "kill" WoW.

Especially that WoW has only about 6 millions of people now, and Aion BEFORE EU/US release has 4 millions.

Let's face it, you can't be the best forever.

I'm still waiting to see actual proof of this instead of that one random guy on his blog speculating. Last I checked, the Chinese servers were back up and running at close to full (at least, that's what it looked like from the data we had a glimpse at prior to BlizzCon). I'm not saying it's not POSSIBLE, only that I'd like to see some actual hard data rather than a guy going "yeah, so since the servers are down this means WoW is down to 6 million!!!!!"

 

[Abedeus]

Aion will spike quickly and then fall. It may temporarily take population form Wow but due to how shallow, empty and repetitive Aion is, it doesn't have a large future beyond new interest.

It's already been 8 months. Where's that spike? Oh, it's already happened? SO where did it fall?

...And of course, WoW isn't shallow. Tank'n'spank, tank'n'spank. At least Aion doesn't have neither pre-BC grind nor the boring tanking + spanking :*

No, you can't kill WoW it's like the metal!

Aion tried to kill the WOW
They failed and were stricken down, to the ground.
Warhammer tried to kill the WOW
But the WOW was proven much too strong!

Aion isn't released yet world-wide. And having 2/3rds of what WoW has isn't really "striking to the ground". Unless you have low standards.

WAR tried and failed, but only because it sucked. Ragnarok Online is better than WAR, and I'm not saying that just because of the nostalgia factor.

if we want to talk number expectations Aion already has over 4million players and it hasn't been released in US/EU yet.

I'm not all for that number, just being that China is already great for that number, and as it has a kMMO base, it will be popular over there as a starter. I see it as a solid game, but it takes a lot of flak in other parts of the world, brushing it off as just a straight kMMO, contrary to what people say. They also had the WoW fiasco, so a lot of people would have switched over then if they couldn't get foreign accounts.

It does seem to be decent though, as a lot of sites have its preorder in the top 5 sellers, and the game still doesn't come out for almost a month. I just won't go with numbers until we see its staying power on the US/EU side of things.

Yeah, so that's probably why it's a top-seller. I mean, direct2drive.co.uk - Collector's Edition is ranked 3, normal version is ranked 7th. Direct2drive.com had it as a top seller for a long time, now CE is ranked 5. Not to mention a ton of country-specific shops.

 

[brainless906]

Aion will spike quickly and then fall. It may temporarily take population form Wow but due to how shallow, empty and repetitive Aion is, it doesn't have a large future beyond new interest.

It's already been 8 months. Where's that spike? Oh, it's already happened? SO where did it fall?

...And of course, WoW isn't shallow. Tank'n'spank, tank'n'spank. At least Aion doesn't have neither pre-BC grind nor the boring tanking + spanking :*

No, you can't kill WoW it's like the metal!

Aion tried to kill the WOW
They failed and were stricken down, to the ground.
Warhammer tried to kill the WOW
But the WOW was proven much too strong!

Aion isn't released yet world-wide. And having 2/3rds of what WoW has isn't really "striking to the ground". Unless you have low standards.

WAR tried and failed, but only because it sucked. Ragnarok Online is better than WAR, and I'm not saying that just because of the nostalgia factor.

if we want to talk number expectations Aion already has over 4million players and it hasn't been released in US/EU yet.

I'm not all for that number, just being that China is already great for that number, and as it has a kMMO base, it will be popular over there as a starter. I see it as a solid game, but it takes a lot of flak in other parts of the world, brushing it off as just a straight kMMO, contrary to what people say. They also had the WoW fiasco, so a lot of people would have switched over then if they couldn't get foreign accounts.

It does seem to be decent though, as a lot of sites have its preorder in the top 5 sellers, and the game still doesn't come out for almost a month. I just won't go with numbers until we see its staying power on the US/EU side of things.

Yeah, so that's probably why it's a top-seller. I mean, direct2drive.co.uk - Collector's Edition is ranked 3, normal version is ranked 7th. Direct2drive.com had it as a top seller for a long time, now CE is ranked 5. Not to mention a ton of country-specific shops.

that makes meh happy lol. means a lot of players at launch

 

[chickenlord]

thats fucking hilarious! aion against wow...it'll be a while till wow gets beat...and its ify, no i have more hopes for old republic in being close to as good as wow, aion pfft...

clearly you have not played Aion or your merely a very arrogant person. Though your argument is packed full of logic i'm going to discard you as one of those tarts who says "pppffttt WoW FTW!!!1!1!" your argument has not logical base. Aion is in almost a complete copy of WoW...exept it looks a hell of a lot better, as better voice acting, oh yah and it has Free Style Arial Combat.

that's all good and well but they are never gunna get the wow players to switch...wow just has the perfect formula down... people are always gunna keep playing wow cause most people are arrogant and will always side with wow over all else...i hope swtor will change that

 

[brainless906]

thats fucking hilarious! aion against wow...it'll be a while till wow gets beat...and its ify, no i have more hopes for old republic in being close to as good as wow, aion pfft...

clearly you have not played Aion or your merely a very arrogant person. Though your argument is packed full of logic i'm going to discard you as one of those tarts who says "pppffttt WoW FTW!!!1!1!" your argument has not logical base. Aion is in almost a complete copy of WoW...exept it looks a hell of a lot better, as better voice acting, oh yah and it has Free Style Arial Combat.

that's all good and well but they are never gunna get the wow players to switch...wow just has the perfect formula down... people are always gunna keep playing wow cause most people are arrogant and will always side with wow over all else...i hope swtor will change that

Again, thats what i said >.>

 

[brainless906]

One thing that WoW and most other mmo's lack is physical response. Most games follow the "I slash through you, you slash through me until one of us falls over" policy. If I'm a 12' tall behiemoth swinging a boulder at the end of a stick calling it a hammer and I golf swing a gnome the size of my thumb I want to see him take air time, and so far the ONLY game I've seen do this is CoH/Cov. Go ahead and laugh, but when I take my mace in hand and start throwing uppercuts I know some thugs are gonna bounce off the celing

A stupid thing to base how good a game is/isn't.

though i cant even talk at this point because i'm such a graphics whore >.>

I'm not saying it makes or breaks a game, but it makes the grind fest a little more bareable, as well as endgame dicking around. from a personal standpoint, I'd still be paying my subscription if point and click killing was more visually stimulating

Aion is Way better then when it comes visually stimulating effects

 

[PuppetMaster]

One thing that WoW and most other mmo's lack is physical response. Most games follow the "I slash through you, you slash through me until one of us falls over" policy. If I'm a 12' tall behiemoth swinging a boulder at the end of a stick calling it a hammer and I golf swing a gnome the size of my thumb I want to see him take air time, and so far the ONLY game I've seen do this is CoH/Cov. Go ahead and laugh, but when I take my mace in hand and start throwing uppercuts I know some thugs are gonna bounce off the celing

A stupid thing to base how good a game is/isn't.

though i cant even talk at this point because i'm such a graphics whore >.>

I'm not saying it makes or breaks a game, but it makes the grind fest a little more bareable, as well as endgame dicking around. from a personal standpoint, I'd still be paying my subscription if point and click killing was more visually stimulating

Aion is Way better then when it comes visually stimulating effects

in the end all scenery is covered by AoE attack sparkles in the inevitable clusterfuck of mob fighting, then your pretty shadows, water reflection and plant definition only serves to chew up your framerate

 

[brainless906]

One thing that WoW and most other mmo's lack is physical response. Most games follow the "I slash through you, you slash through me until one of us falls over" policy. If I'm a 12' tall behiemoth swinging a boulder at the end of a stick calling it a hammer and I golf swing a gnome the size of my thumb I want to see him take air time, and so far the ONLY game I've seen do this is CoH/Cov. Go ahead and laugh, but when I take my mace in hand and start throwing uppercuts I know some thugs are gonna bounce off the celing

A stupid thing to base how good a game is/isn't.

though i cant even talk at this point because i'm such a graphics whore >.>

I'm not saying it makes or breaks a game, but it makes the grind fest a little more bareable, as well as endgame dicking around. from a personal standpoint, I'd still be paying my subscription if point and click killing was more visually stimulating

Aion is Way better then when it comes visually stimulating effects

in the end all scenery is covered by AoE attack sparkles in the inevitable clusterfuck of mob fighting, then your pretty shadows, water reflection and plant definition only serves to chew up your framerate

if you have a computer that cant handle even a moderate load..

 

[PuppetMaster]

One thing that WoW and most other mmo's lack is physical response. Most games follow the "I slash through you, you slash through me until one of us falls over" policy. If I'm a 12' tall behiemoth swinging a boulder at the end of a stick calling it a hammer and I golf swing a gnome the size of my thumb I want to see him take air time, and so far the ONLY game I've seen do this is CoH/Cov. Go ahead and laugh, but when I take my mace in hand and start throwing uppercuts I know some thugs are gonna bounce off the celing

A stupid thing to base how good a game is/isn't.

though i cant even talk at this point because i'm such a graphics whore >.>

I'm not saying it makes or breaks a game, but it makes the grind fest a little more bareable, as well as endgame dicking around. from a personal standpoint, I'd still be paying my subscription if point and click killing was more visually stimulating

Aion is Way better then when it comes visually stimulating effects

in the end all scenery is covered by AoE attack sparkles in the inevitable clusterfuck of mob fighting, then your pretty shadows, water reflection and plant definition only serves to chew up your framerate

if you have a computer that cant handle even a moderate load..

oh probably, but there's always a limit to how many baddies you can put on a screen before you start to chop. Vive la console

 

[brainless906]

One thing that WoW and most other mmo's lack is physical response. Most games follow the "I slash through you, you slash through me until one of us falls over" policy. If I'm a 12' tall behiemoth swinging a boulder at the end of a stick calling it a hammer and I golf swing a gnome the size of my thumb I want to see him take air time, and so far the ONLY game I've seen do this is CoH/Cov. Go ahead and laugh, but when I take my mace in hand and start throwing uppercuts I know some thugs are gonna bounce off the celing

A stupid thing to base how good a game is/isn't.

though i cant even talk at this point because i'm such a graphics whore >.>

I'm not saying it makes or breaks a game, but it makes the grind fest a little more bareable, as well as endgame dicking around. from a personal standpoint, I'd still be paying my subscription if point and click killing was more visually stimulating

Aion is Way better then when it comes visually stimulating effects

in the end all scenery is covered by AoE attack sparkles in the inevitable clusterfuck of mob fighting, then your pretty shadows, water reflection and plant definition only serves to chew up your framerate

if you have a computer that cant handle even a moderate load..

oh probably, but there's always a limit to how many baddies you can put on a screen before you start to chop. Vive la console

my point is it doesn't take that much to run the game, even with a "butt-ton" of baddies on screen, its a really well streamlined game.

 

[ntafiend]

What i want to know is why anyone would want wow to "die". I dont like the game myself, but i can easily admit how much it has done for games. Last i heard it had around 11 million subscribers, and i think its been around for 5 years or so? thats insane.

Now take a look at the time and effort that gets put into the MMOs that you prefer to play, and ask yourself why that company decided to pour all that time and money into making it for you.

Like it or not, Wow deserves massive amounts of respect

First off the player base has dropped by about 6million people ever since china banned it.
I.E. there not at 11 million players anymore, not even close.

But Blizzard hardly puts in effort anymore, you cant call a new expansion pack every year "pouring all that time and money into making it"

Sure they might have at the beginning, but at this point in time everybody could STOP playing WoW and Blizzard would still have a gross profit from the game.

Now we all just assume WoW is a monster and will never die, even though its merely a mediocre game at most and there are much better ones out there. (an opinionated thought i realize)

Actually, i agree with you completely. WOW is mediocre at best. I dont care for it and never played longer than a couple free trials. I just respect it and love seeing games do really well. The pouring time and money into.... I was talking about the people making new MMOs. I know alot has gone into WOW, but at this point anything they do has been paid for many times over.

 

[gamegod25]

Too early to tell. I mean it's not even out yet right?

 

[brainless906]

Too early to tell. I mean it's not even out yet right?

yah its not out yet, though it already has 4Million players and is on the top order list of MANY gaming websites

 

[Anarchy Sultan]

No, you can't kill WoW it's like the metal!

Aion tried to kill the WOW
They failed and were stricken down, to the ground.
Warhammer tried to kill the WOW
But the WOW was proven much too strong!

Guild Wars tried to defile the WOW
But Guild Wars was proven Wrong!

Oh we could go on for days

 

[brainless906]

No, you can't kill WoW it's like the metal!

Aion tried to kill the WOW
They failed and were stricken down, to the ground.
Warhammer tried to kill the WOW
But the WOW was proven much too strong!

Guild Wars tried to defile the WOW
But Guild Wars was proven Wrong!

Oh we could go on for days

Lets try our hardest to not go on...

 

[gamegod25]

Too early to tell. I mean it's not even out yet right?

yah its not out yet, though it already has 4Million players and is on the top order list of MANY gaming websites

maybe but that doesn't mean it's good or that it will last, let alone "kill" WoW.

I'm not saying it's bad or good, just that it's way too early (and foolish) to make any kind of proclamation like that.

 

[Jakemizer]

If anything it will only "wound" wow. I believe that SW: the Old republic will take the biggest chunk. Star Wars has a fanatical fan base. I will probably regret saying what I just said.

 

[Tartarga]

i think its a bit to early to tell sure it aion looks pretty but we still have know idea how the gameplay is but i do think it has potential so im looking forward to its release

 

[gigastrike]

Aion isn't gonna kill WoW because Guild Wars 2 is gonna do that.

 

[JusticarPhaeton]

Aion looks like a decent MMO. But i doubt it will defeat WoW, just because of one of the oldest and proven factors: People have been playing WoW longer. WoW still has a large enough fanbase to tank any losses from people who are bored of it. As for the rest of the WoWers, why abandon their high-level characters to play a similar swords-and-sorcery MMO that will likely be more expensive than WoW, but lacking the whole Blizzard/Warcraft pack of perks?

We saw this with WAR; Aion is similar enough to WoW that most players won't want to or don't have the time/money to play both, and Aion's innovations to the system are not large enough to justify switching MMO's. For casual players, maybe. But casual players are not good customers for pay per month MMOs.