Every and single is redundant. Use one or the other, not both. Unless you know a few double pirates?lacktheknack said:EVERY SINGLE PIRATE I know in real life does.Zeel said:to be fair; piracy is about convenience not entitlement. No one thinks they deserve a game free. Atleast the majority don't.lacktheknack said:Yes. Yes we are.
See: The "Give Moar Updates" Minecraft DDOS. See also: Piracy. See also: human nature.
"Hell no, I'm not paying for that. I'm gonna download it, that's free."
Entitlement at its finest.
Maybe I was talking about pirates with no boy/girlfriend.Crono1973 said:Every and single is redundant. Use one or the other, not both. Unless you know a few double pirates?lacktheknack said:EVERY SINGLE PIRATE I know in real life does.Zeel said:to be fair; piracy is about convenience not entitlement. No one thinks they deserve a game free. Atleast the majority don't.lacktheknack said:Yes. Yes we are.
See: The "Give Moar Updates" Minecraft DDOS. See also: Piracy. See also: human nature.
"Hell no, I'm not paying for that. I'm gonna download it, that's free."
Entitlement at its finest.
So how many pirates do you know?
Still not as amazing as this. Open the DLC tab and weep.Mafoobula said:I'm going to point out a racing game from just a few years ago. The game in question shipped with the absolute bare minimum of content, with virtually everything else being available via micro-transfer DLC. The problem being that the total cost of this DLC was over $1,000. Classy.
Oh, so do you know any married/engaged/spoken for pirates?lacktheknack said:Maybe I was talking about pirates with no boy/girlfriend.Crono1973 said:Every and single is redundant. Use one or the other, not both. Unless you know a few double pirates?lacktheknack said:EVERY SINGLE PIRATE I know in real life does.Zeel said:to be fair; piracy is about convenience not entitlement. No one thinks they deserve a game free. Atleast the majority don't.lacktheknack said:Yes. Yes we are.
See: The "Give Moar Updates" Minecraft DDOS. See also: Piracy. See also: human nature.
"Hell no, I'm not paying for that. I'm gonna download it, that's free."
Entitlement at its finest.
So how many pirates do you know?
I know eight or nine. They make me sad.
That's worse than a Sims game.lacktheknack said:Still not as amazing as this. Open the DLC tab and weep.Mafoobula said:I'm going to point out a racing game from just a few years ago. The game in question shipped with the absolute bare minimum of content, with virtually everything else being available via micro-transfer DLC. The problem being that the total cost of this DLC was over $1,000. Classy.
Yes, which kinda wrecks my first defense, doesn't it?Crono1973 said:Oh, so do you know any married/engaged/spoken for pirates?
It's even worse when you realize that it's exactly what you think it is... you drive trains. That is all.Crono1973 said:That's worse than a Sims game.lacktheknack said:Still not as amazing as this. Open the DLC tab and weep.
Things like this give DLC the bad name that it has. I hope no one spent $1700 to drive trains.lacktheknack said:Yes, which kinda wrecks my first defense, doesn't it?Crono1973 said:Oh, so do you know any married/engaged/spoken for pirates?
It's even worse when you realize that it's exactly what you think it is... you drive trains. That is all.Crono1973 said:That's worse than a Sims game.lacktheknack said:Still not as amazing as this. Open the DLC tab and weep.
No, but I can fathom a bloody guess. What makes you think you are, or indeed, would be that different? Do you have some inherant hatered towards money and success? I don't think so... Just because now you're on the recieving end of the transaction, is that what makes you so enlightened? Actually, yes; however, if you weren't, then you probably wouldn't think twice before releasing d1DLC.Vegosiux said:Yet some publishers are acting less screwy while some more. So, that somehow tells me they're human beings...DIFFERENT human beings.n00beffect said:I do realize that developers and publishers alike, are all money-hungry, ruthless, utterly-depraved-of-standards... HUMAN BEINGS. Yes, exactly, they're human beings, just like you, and me, and your mom.
Yes, we are. We're different human beings.We're no different...
And you do not know that.and YOU wouldn't do anything different if you were in their position.
This is the point where I politely request that you do not make assumptions about how I would or would not act in a given situation. I believe myself to be better qualified to make that judgement than someone whose entire position depends on whether or not they're right about what they think about what I'd do.n00beffect said:-snip-
Because, news flash, not everyone thinks that they are the devil incarnate.Thoric485 said:I can't fathom why people rush to the defence of a studio-destroyer like EA.
If you think the game is bad, why would you be so interested in playing it that you would pirate it?Toilet said:As far as I am concerned I see why people pirate games we deserve better, companies do not deserve or earn our money it is a trade of goods and sometimes the goods aren't worth the price.
Believe it or not, THIS IS WHAT COMPANIES DO. It's how buisness works. If the companies didn't want to be bought, then they wouldn't have been bought. They were selling themselves, and EA was buying. That's the entire concept of Stock Trading.Zeel said:then they are misinformed. Look at all these companies they bought:erttheking said:Because, news flash, not everyone thinks that they are the devil incarnate.Thoric485 said:I can't fathom why people rush to the defence of a studio-destroyer like EA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Electronic_Arts
Thats about 38 studios bought in 20 years. How much are still running? Eight.
Go check for yourself, click a studio, investigate them. notice what happens "STUDIO THAT MAKES GREAT GAMES GETS BOUGHT BY EA. EA RUSH THE GAMES, it doesnt sell well, EA closes down studio. Only absoring a "few key players"
it's a disgusting tactic. By out the opposition, pilfer their talented workers and repeat. Honestly, I dont know how long Bioware will last.
Yes, and some of us simply want that cancer to not affect what the games we want to play end up being. But it's easy enough for me, I simpy pass up on such stuff *shrug*Ordinaryundone said:Believe it or not, THIS IS WHAT COMPANIES DO. It's how buisness works. If the companies didn't want to be bought, then they wouldn't have been bought. They were selling themselves, and EA was buying. That's the entire concept of Stock Trading.
It happens in every industry. Idealism never, ever overcomes profit and the end of the day. Which is the way it SHOULD be, honestly. Artists are a notoriously fickle and unproductive group of people. Publishers aren't just there to fund them, they are there to keep them focused, and working towards a product that people will actually buy.Vegosiux said:Yes, and some of us simply want that cancer to not affect what the games we want to play end up being. But it's easy enough for me, I simpy pass up on such stuff *shrug*Ordinaryundone said:Believe it or not, THIS IS WHAT COMPANIES DO. It's how buisness works. If the companies didn't want to be bought, then they wouldn't have been bought. They were selling themselves, and EA was buying. That's the entire concept of Stock Trading.
Still sad and disappointed when it happens tho.
Well it'd be nice if they worked towards a product I'd actually buy, yes. I'm not saying idealism is the way to go, but shoehorning current FOTM elements into everything ("Multiplayer makes money! Add multiplayer!") isn't either.Ordinaryundone said:It happens in every industry. Idealism never, ever overcomes profit and the end of the day. Which is the way it SHOULD be, honestly. Artists are a notoriously fickle and unproductive group of people. Publishers aren't just there to fund them, they are there to keep them focused, and working towards a product that people will actually buy.