Poll: Are you a feminist?

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soren7550

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Like people have said before, I support women having equal rights/opportunities/etc., but I'm not so sure if I'd call myself a feminist (mostly due to the fact that it can be defined several different ways, and because I don't want to be associated with some people who do call themselves feminists).
Which is weird since I'm by all means a woman. Oh well, that wouldn't be the first thing that's wired wrong with me.
 

Kahunaburger

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Shanicus said:
and while the Escapist is pretty good for many things, sexism threads always end up... in flames, with several people coming out going 'oh, women have had equal rights FOREVER, now they just want more than equal rights! Women suck!'. Kinda a reason I avoid discussing gender politics and equal rights on the internet (or at least this site).
I think it's just a gaming thing. For whatever reason game-related things tend to swing a little conservative. The Escapist is one of the least bad gaming forums I've seen for this, actually - most ppl here aren't actively hostile towards women, and there's not a lot of homophobia.
 

RagTagBand

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No, because I think it is utterly absurd, and contradictory, to think that advocating the rights of one sex will bring equality to both. I am an advocate of equal rights, not an advocate of simply "women's rights" and I refuse to be labelled in such a narrow manner.
 

The Funslinger

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Jonluw said:
I don't identify as feminist because the word holds lots of different connotations depending on whom you ask, and I believe I shouldn't have to specify that I want the sexes to be equal. It should be the default position.
That's something I agree with. And also, while I agree we should take those last couple of steps and finish equalizing pay cheques, and whatnot, I wouldn't really focus on feminism at this stage because it's something that is a bit of a back burner issue compared to racism, crime, etc that have some more immediately pressing concerns. In rough terms, the sexes are basically equal, so we can afford to relax a little.
 

Flizzick

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Why would I advocate for something that should be common sense? It's madness. Madness I tell you.
 

manic_depressive13

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Of course I'm a feminist. As for people who say they are reluctant to call themselves feminists because of negative association; Do you refuse to call yourself a gamer because some ill informed people consider all gamers to be basement dwelling losers? No? So why refrain from calling yourself a feminist just because some dumbcunts refuse to educate themselves about the meaning behind it and let their perception be coloured by sensationalist media? If they are misinformed about the definition of feminism the onus is on them to educate themselves.
 
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Kahunaburger said:
I think the inherent hilarity of the statement "Not too fond of feminists or feminism. Wouldn't date one given the choice," stands on it's own. Any further commentary from me would just cheapen the moment.
I see. Well actually I don't, but am glad you found it funny, whatever it is. o.o
 

Radelaide

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I loathe feminists. Okay, I'll rephrase. I loathe modern-day feminists. I find them annoying and sexist. They aren't about women's rights, they're about pushing women up as a superior sex and not an equal sex.
 

Kahunaburger

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RagTagBand said:
I am an advocate of equal rights, not an advocate of simply "women's rights" and I refuse to be labelled in such a narrow manner.
I am a human, not simply a tall human, and I refuse to be labeled in such a narrow manner as "tall."

manic_depressive13 said:
So why refrain from calling yourself a feminist just because some dumbcunts refuse to educate themselves about the meaning behind it and let their perception be coloured by sensationalist media?
It never ceases to amaze me how many people who consider themselves progressive or forward-thinking drink the reactionary/conservative kool-aid re: feminism.
 

Yopaz

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I am a feminist according to the dictionary definition you included in your post.

I do not see myself as a feminist because of all the hardcore factions of feminists that try to make it more extreme than what it needs to be. Feminism pretty much gives me the "all men are pigs" kinda view which I think is as bad as being misogynistic since it's clearly as sexist as saying women belong in the kitchen.

Feminism is a bad word for those who want gender equality since the word is a derivative of the word for women making it sound like it is in favour of women rather than a matter of equality. I also want to say that we can't have complete equality since men and women are different. If equality means we are going to ignore the fact that there's no difference between men and women then I'm against it. We aren't equal because because of our biology. Let us be as equals in sociology, give us the same opportunities, the same rights because that is something we can change. We can't make a man give birth, but we can have a man who works as a nurse, we can have a woman as a leader, we can have men who clean the house and take care of children.
 

chadachada123

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Yes, I am, because I believe that men and women should be treated equally under the law.

I'm always sure to distinguish between feminists (whom I tend to agree with) and feminazis (who are crazy).

I can't say that I've done much to advocate, since men and women are already pretty much equal under the law. I have joined several support groups for women, though, despite being male.

I have, though, done much in support of men's/father's rights, as men are currently screwed over in the legal system compared to women in many instances, particularly in custody cases and with alimony. The reason I am more vocal about this issue, aside from being male and afraid of being screwed over, is because many people (feminists included) don't recognize this problem or, worse, are okay with this blatant sexism.
 

PatrickXD

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I want equality among the sexes, sure. If that means that I'm defined as feminist, then I guess I am! I hadn't really thought of being called a feminist myself until now. I figured it should be taken as default that you wanted equality, and you would identify otherwise. I mean, it is 2012, right?
 

AngryMongoose

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I get slightly stroppy and uncomfortable whenever someone says something sexist; sometimes I even make a non-committal comment; does that count?
 

spartan231490

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No. I believe that Women and Men are more or less equal in today's society. I admit, there are still pockets of sexism, some of them severe, but I believe there are a lot of issues far more important for me to devote my time and effort to.
 

Danceofmasks

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I do not advocate rights, therefore I am not a feminist.

All humans ought to be treated like humans, i.e. a species that is the most mindlessly destructive species ever known deserves to be destroyed accordingly.

By that, I mean objectively, from the outside, if other lifeforms were to judge the human species, whether they be gods or aliens or artificial intelligences ...
Anyone who thinks humanity would be judged kindly would be wrong.
 

nubbas

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Yes, I call myself a feminist.

If somenone else through ignorance or choice takes that to mean any of the connotations outside of the dictionary version I'll usually be glad to give them a brief mission statement.

As a high school teacher in Sweden I'm more or less bound by law to be a feminist in the sense we're talking about here at least in what values I pass on to my students. I guess that and having a TRULY equal part in my childrens upbringing is the part of my activism that I'm most proud of.

It's been a long journey from arrogant, misogynist teenage-boy to feminist man/father. I do not delude myself into thinking that I can truly see all the structural inequities in society from my priviliged position as white heterosexual male but I'd like to thank the few good women who got me started on the looong journey.
 

DeleteThisAcc

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I can only facepalm at people here.

1. Male and Female creatures are not same, thus not equal. But they both deserve same rights and opportunities.
2. Feminism is not for equal rights nor it is for equal opportunities. Want prof? - Gender quotas in job places and universities forcing to take in females that are not as qualified and throwing away males that are more qualified (eg. male with average mark 8 from 10 from school doesn't get place in university because of gender quota making female get to university with average mark of 6 from 10. Is that fair? Someone that is more qualified, smarter and harder working is thrown away because of their SEX as long as they are male). Feminism lowered job requirements for women. Look at police and firefighter job qualification requirements - weaker females are welcome - males not.
3. Feminism and law: Woman attack man - man goes to jail. Woman KILLS man after he asks for divorce - woman goes free. Woman cuts off pen1s of man asking for divorce - woman goes free + becomes role model. Man slaps woman in self defense (woman attacked) - gets beaten up by every other "feminist" male around + goes to police as the one to have assaulted. According to US laws : only man can rape, woman can't be rapist. Married man can't force his wife to have sex with him, in france if man doesn't please his wife when she wants he can get fined.
4. Feminism propaganda: Women are only ones experiencing domestic violence - false, women as likely to cause domestic violence as men. All men shares guilt of being rapists and violence against women - yah...
5. feminism and sexism: sexism against women - bad, sexism against men - ok.

Just go to youtube and watch videos of girlwriteswhat.

I am antifeminist. I am for equal rights and opportunities of genders (as MALE and FEMALE transvestites and cross dressers can go to hell)
 

optimusjamie

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Going by a theoretical definition of feminism (the one given in the OP), then I would call myself a feminist. However, like any label, it mhas a range of different meanings depending on who you ask.
 

Kahunaburger

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Arkaniack said:
2. Feminism is not for equal rights nor it is for equal opportunities. Want prof? - Gender quotas in job places and universities forcing to take in females that are not as qualified and throwing away males that are more qualified (eg. male with average mark 8 from 10 from school doesn't get place in university because of gender quota making female get to university with average mark of 6 from 10.
Fun fact: it's generally the other way around [http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20111646-503544.html] in the US. The female applicant pool is much larger than the male applicant pool for most universities.

Arkaniack said:
Married man can't force his wife to have sex with him,
This is something you have a problem with? I thought "rape is bad" was something we could all get behind.

Arkaniack said:
I am for equal rights and opportunities of genders (as MALE and FEMALE transvestites and cross dressers can go to hell)
Ahahahah MRAs.