Oh we're quite past the point of their games merely being bad.Samtemdo8 said:I got over this years ago after how much a fool I was in hating on Dragon Age 2 (I still don't like the game, but I got over it)
Oh we're quite past the point of their games merely being bad.Samtemdo8 said:I got over this years ago after how much a fool I was in hating on Dragon Age 2 (I still don't like the game, but I got over it)
Fuck me, but that does sound interesting. But the campaign would need to be twice as long(without knowing how long hours wise, I know its too short) so the switch to Rebels means something, without the cliff hanger, at $40 is a worthwhile game.EternallyBored said:Yep, also defects ridiculously early in the campaign too, like 3 missions in and suddenly miss ?glory to the empire? is having second thoughts, basically within the first 25% of the game. By about mission 5 right after surrendering to the rebels, the main character is literally given an X-wing by Lando seconds after telling him her sob story, then lands the X-wing on Naboo and fights side by side with leia to save the planet from the empire. The characters are well acted and they?ve got some good lines, but the story is fan fiction tier at best, for God?s sake, her Dad is literally the Imperial admiral she works under and of course he stays loyal to the Empire.Silentpony said:Oh don't tell me Imperial Commander Shepard turns to the Rebels...LostGryphon said:Beta controls were...awful.
And, from what I've heard, they couldn't even commit to an entirely Imperial story. Standard defection bull. The P2W element is just icing on the shit cake.
All that, and it ends on a cliffhanger that is supposedly going to be completed in DLC before the end of 2017, the one up side being that at least they say that DLC is going to be free.
Basically all the marketing for the single player campaign is one giant misdirect.
About 5 hours.Silentpony said:Fuck me, but that does sound interesting. But the campaign would need to be twice as long(without knowing how long hours wise, I know its too short) so the switch to Rebels means something, without the cliff hanger, at $40 is a worthwhile game.
Tell one really good single player story really well. Pull a Bioshock, but in Star Wars!
Here's the thing about Disney though. Disney actually cares about their image as a brand. The very last thing they want is to have their name attached to a product/toy that is considered to get children into gambling or scam children for money. The questions are whether Disney execs think their brand is threatened enough to take action and how much leverage Disney still has with the EA contract already signed.Hawki said:https://venturebeat.com/2017/11/16/star-wars-battlefront-ii-microtransactions-go-offline-until-ea-can-make-changes/
The link says what everyone knows, but what's very interesting is that EA's apparently been in touch with Disney about the FUBAR. I mean, both Disney and EA are evil corporate overlords, but since Disney is slightly less evil, maybe there's hope? Like, Disney's the Emperor and EA's Darth Vader, only the evil levels are turned around.
And while I'm here, I'll give a shoutout to DICE being the loyal Stormtroopers. Can't help but feel some sympathy since they're taking their share of the flak as well, even though it's very likely the microtransaction system was mandated by EA.
Hawki said:but since Disney is slightly less evil,
Hawki said:but since Disney is slightly less evil,
Hawki said:but since Disney is slightly less evil,
What. The. Fuck. are you talking about? Disney literally rewrites laws to their own liking. I can't imagine a company more evil than those stealing control from the public on such a high level like intelectual property. Disney is what EA wants to become.Hawki said:but since Disney is slightly less evil,
You can tell a decent story in 5 hours. COD games do it all the time(they aren't great stories but most of them are coherent and at least kinda interesting). Unfortunatly, it sounds like half the problem was that EA/Disney set up a great premise and then chickened out of actually following through with it(and what was done is apparently really poorly written), and the other is that half the campaign is following OTHER(more famous) characters around, so Iden's story is even more cheated for development.Silentpony said:Fuck me, but that does sound interesting. But the campaign would need to be twice as long(without knowing how long hours wise, I know its too short) so the switch to Rebels means something, without the cliff hanger, at $40 is a worthwhile game.
Tell one really good single player story really well. Pull a Bioshock, but in Star Wars!
Apparently it's because the Empire decides that, in retaliation for the defeat at Endor, they're going to use giant lasers to blow up a bunch of Imperial cities(not Rebel/New Republic cities, Imperial cities), because fuck pragmatic villainy when being stupid evil takes way less effort to write. If I'm missing proper context for this, please correct me.EternallyBored said:Yep, also defects ridiculously early in the campaign too, like 3 missions in and suddenly miss ?glory to the empire? is having second thoughts, basically within the first 25% of the game.Silentpony said:Oh don't tell me Imperial Commander Shepard turns to the Rebels...LostGryphon said:Beta controls were...awful.
And, from what I've heard, they couldn't even commit to an entirely Imperial story. Standard defection bull. The P2W element is just icing on the shit cake.
From what I've read on Wookiepedia, it's a posthumous order from Palpatine. It isn't so much the Empire arbitrarily deciding to become genocidal, it's that Palpatine, being the person that he was, didn't want the Empire to outlive him (or something).Dalisclock said:Apparently it's because the Empire decides that, in retaliation for the defeat at Endor, they're going to use giant lasers to blow up a bunch of Imperial cities(not Rebel/New Republic cities, Imperial cities), because fuck pragmatic villainy when being stupid evil takes way less effort to write. If I'm missing proper context for this, please correct me.
People use that rationale in the real world as well.Dalisclock said:All those previous War Crimes didn't count because they were strangers.
Hence "slightly less evil."Naldan said:I just realized that my tone was a bit shit. Sorry. But still, regarding copyright Disney is a Super Nintendo, breaking all boundaries. Aside from a lot of other shit they did I personally don't consider as bad, though.
Really? Actually ... I think that's good news. I have been enjoying the single player campaign but the one thing that has been bugging me about it is how quickly I seemed to be burning through it (as I can see from the Challenge menu that I'm on mission 7 of 12) so learning that there are more missions on the way is actually welcome news - as long as they're a free update and not locked behind a paywall that is.Xsjadoblayde said:How do you feel about the campaign not being complete on release, with the rest supposedly out in December?Grouchy Imp said:Yep. Got it this morning, played the singleplayer intro on my lunch break. Couldn't give a shit about the multiplayer and its associated lootbox fuckery, I bought the game for the singleplayer campaign and the splitscreen skirmish mode.
But I still don't make a big fuss out of it. The last time I made a fuss was when I was going through Nerd Rage at how they butchered Dragon Age with the second game. Than I realize nerd raging is petty and pathetic.Arnoxthe1 said:Oh we're quite past the point of their games merely being bad.Samtemdo8 said:I got over this years ago after how much a fool I was in hating on Dragon Age 2 (I still don't like the game, but I got over it)
Although I'm not personally making a fuss (because nobody ever listens to me anyway so whatever), I actually approve of the others that are making a fuss. The others that are dragging EA through the mud.Samtemdo8 said:But I still don't make a big fuss out of it. The last time I made a fuss was when I was going through Nerd Rage at how they butchered Dragon Age with the second game. Than I realize nerd raging is petty and pathetic.
Want to know how to kill Microtransactions? Buy the game that has it, but don't buy the microtransactions. If they see that none of the customers is buying the microtransactions, mabye they'll reconsider.Arnoxthe1 said:Although I'm not personally making a fuss (because nobody ever listens to me anyway so whatever), I actually approve of the others that are making a fuss. The others that are dragging EA through the mud.Samtemdo8 said:But I still don't make a big fuss out of it. The last time I made a fuss was when I was going through Nerd Rage at how they butchered Dragon Age with the second game. Than I realize nerd raging is petty and pathetic.
I approve of this for several reasons. For one, EA has been a massive thorn in the backside of gamers and even other devs everywhere. They enforce their terrible business practices and buyout many other smaller and much more talented devs only to destroy them with their insane meddling before finally shutting them down and looking for new meat. This has been their modus operandi for years and years and it seemed like nothing would really shut them down. Then BF2 comes along...
Which leads nicely into the second and most current reason why I approve of this. Microtransactions need to die. And EA has unwittingly volunteered to be the first to be made an example of. I couldn't have chosen a more deserving company to take the heat of gamers' pent up rage that's been slowly building and building before finally unleashing in an insane unstoppable torrent.
Good. As ol' "Jim Fucking Sterling, son" puts it, "Rip and tear until it is done."
I can actually see why people wouldn't like him at all, although "Rip and tear." is from Doom originally. Having said that though, it seems like he's the only one that's spreading awareness of all these crappy business practices so yeah. The pretentious fart often has very good points.Samtemdo8 said:Want to know how to kill Microtransactions? Buy the game that has it, but don't buy the microtransactions. If they see that none of the customers is buying the microtransactions, mabye they'll reconsider.
Also Jim fucking Sterling son is an overdramatic and pretentious fart of a man. I cannot believe I used to follow that guy.