Poll: Do you invert and how old are you -- testing a hypothesis

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Deef

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I play inverted for FPS games, but anytime I play a game with a flying mechanic, I go inverted. Just feels more natural.
 

Avistew

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Irridium said:
what's the plural of axis? Axii. Axises, Axis'?
The plural of "axis" is "axes". Words in "-is" take their plural in "-es" (thesis -> theses; basis -> bases) with "-ises" occasionally accepted (penis -> penises or penes, sorted in order of use/acceptance).

"-ii" is the plural of "-ius" (or rather, "-i" is the plural form of "-us", which I guess could lead to two Is in a row although I can't think of an example.). Ex: cactus -> cacti, fungus -> fungi. Note that some words in "-us" are still pluralized "-uses" (virus -> viruses) and some have many accepted plurals (octopus -> octopuses, octopodes or octopi, sorted in order of use/acceptance)

Apostrophes are never used to mark a plural, an apostrophe after a plural word ending in S marks a possessive (not that if the word is singular or doesn't end in S, you still us apostrophe+s as usual. For instance, "Ross's brush", "people's opinions". In the first example, note that it's also pronounced like "Rosses".)

Sometimes people use an apostrophe to mark a plural, but they do it before the S. In such cases, it's still correct not to use the apostrophe (the 8os, I have CDs) although using it is common so I guess it's also accepted?

To answer the OP's question, I use whichever controls are the default, inverted or not.
 

IsraelRocks

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Finally a thread with a poll that is not about my avatar/last gun i used/ last thing i ate / last green thing that went in my mouth.

i'm 25 and i was a flight Sim nut growing up, still am actually.

But i think i am a part of a demographic you ignored. people who played Sims with joysticks.
 

Darius Brogan

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20, only invert in flight sims. I rather like the normal set-up because, in real life, you don't think about looking down and to the right to look up and to the left. I just prefer it that way.
 

disfunkybob

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27 and I play normal (though I was never much of an FPS player). Like most everyone else here it seems, when I play flying games it's inverted. Brings me back to the days of Chuck Yeager's video game.

Do kids nowadays know who Chuck Yeager is? *bones audibly creak*
 

unoleian

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There's a critical factor missing in this poll, now that I think about it. Control method isn't specified. I for one am a switch-hitter depending on input device.

Think of it this way-- you pull your head back to look up, and you push it forward to look down.
That's how I've always thought of it.

And that's why I play inverted on a controller. Always have. I played most FPSes M&KB initially, and up was always up there. But plugging in a controller throws a switch, and I need the controls to be inverted. Just must be something about the thumbsticks and the way my brain conceptualizes their movements.
 

Mouse One

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Over 25. For a controller, I invert. For a mouse, no. I'm a pilot by trade, so the second I'm touching a stick, "back means pitch up". But a mouse isn't a stick, so I don't invert (with the exception of a couple of flying games that use mice).
 

Owyn_Merrilin

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IsraelRocks said:
Finally a thread with a poll that is not about my avatar/last gun i used/ last thing i ate / last green thing that went in my mouth.

i'm 25 and i was a flight Sim nut growing up, still am actually.

But i think i am a part of a demographic you ignored. people who played Sims with joysticks.
Actually, I kind of assumed that if you were playing a flight sim back in the day, you used a joystick; I've even got one sitting on my desk, because certain flight sims (Especially the X-Wing games from X-Wing Vs. Tie Fighter on) require one to even boot up, and the rest just play better with a flight stick. Even when I play Battlefield, I prefer using a flightstick to keyboard and mouse when flying planes or helicopters.
 

Viennetta

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I'm 21 and I use the normal controls. I was a hardcore inverter until I played Battlefront. It had default normal settings, and playing it constantly through a whole summer transformed me into the normal I am today.
 

Halceon

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Normal here. Inverted works in 2 cases, both in some form of flight sims - 1) I have a joystick or 2) My mouse can imitate a joystick and can be held in a position for prolonged turning.
 

Owyn_Merrilin

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unoleian said:
There's a critical factor missing in this poll, now that I think about it. Control method isn't specified. I for one am a switch-hitter depending on input device.

Think of it this way-- you pull your head back to look up, and you push it forward to look down.
That's how I've always thought of it.

And that's why I play inverted on a controller. Always have. I played most FPSes M&KB initially, and up was always up there. But plugging in a controller throws a switch, and I need the controls to be inverted. Just must be something about the thumbsticks and the way my brain conceptualizes their movements.
Depends on what FPSs you played; Dark Forces is the only one I ever played that had look up/look down but no mouselook, and that one was inverted with no way to switch it. A lot of the early mouselook games were inverted by default, but gave the option to switch it. As for control method, I would love to include it, but there's only room for 8 questions in a poll. I guess someone could start another poll asking whether people stayed inverted for all controller types, or varied depending on input method -- I have a feeling most people pick one and stick with it, but it would be interesting to see what the reality is.
 

aashell13

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19 and normal. I do play flight sims (my x-plane install is pushing 100gb's, counting mods), but i use a joystick for that.
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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28, and I do not invert my FPS controls and think it's bloody weird when people do. It makes sense to invert the Y-axis if what you are playing is actually a flight simulator, because that's how a flight-yoke really works... but generally those are played with joysticks.

As a PC gamer who owns no consoles and sees this modern day predominance of FPS games on consoles as bizarre and unnatural given they have precisely the wrong style of controls for those games, I naturally enough play FPS titles with a mouse.

Fact: Nobody turns on an inverted Y-axis to use their mouse for normal, every day computing, because that is weird.

When you use a mouse, you move the device around and the cursor directly reflects the direction of that movement, only translated to the horizontal axis rather than a vertical, since screens typically directly face the user. So pushing the mouse away makes the cursor go up, pulling it back towards you makes it go down, and left and right are left and right, nothing out of the ordinary there.

So why then, after firing up an FPS title, would you suddenly want your mouse controls to do the exact opposite of what they do all the other times you use a mouse? Flight-sim mouse controls are unintuitive and far less precise than mouse-look, where you point and shoot in the same manner that you point and click in ordinary mouse operation.

Now if you're playing FPS games on a console, then the mechanism you're using to aim is a joystick, and I could see inverting the controls making more sense then if you cut your teeth with joysticks playing flight sims, so I can sort of understand why people want to do that. Inverting a mouse though is just bizarre.
 

IsraelRocks

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
IsraelRocks said:
Finally a thread with a poll that is not about my avatar/last gun i used/ last thing i ate / last green thing that went in my mouth.

i'm 25 and i was a flight Sim nut growing up, still am actually.

But i think i am a part of a demographic you ignored. people who played Sims with joysticks.
Actually, I kind of assumed that if you were playing a flight sim back in the day, you used a joystick; I've even got one sitting on my desk, because certain flight sims (Especially the X-Wing games from X-Wing Vs. Tie Fighter on) require one to even boot up, and the rest just play better with a flight stick. Even when I play Battlefield, I prefer using a flightstick to keyboard and mouse when flying planes or helicopters.
So age is not really a factor here. you are right, gamers over 20 probebly do have joysticks if the played sims (god dammit i miss those star wars sims ).
And younger gamers probably didnt get a change to play alot of sims before they died out (no, the X anthology does not count) and most likely grew up on FPSs.
 

MoosieMann

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i USED to have inverted until i got to about 12, then i switched to normal. I have used normal for everything except flights sims and flying anything since then. Though it should be said that i played ALOT of of flight sims growing up, was going to be a pilot until i found out that 20/20 vision was required, crushing my dreams.

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