Poll: Drinking while pregnant?

[Watchmacallit]

I wouldn't drink if I was able to become pregnant. I recently found out that my mum smoked while she was pregnant...My friends said that explained a lot >_>

 

[mireko]

I would probably have an abortion, and not just because I'm male.

If I actually wanted to keep it, however, then I wouldn't risk drinking at all. Yes, I'm sure there's some amount you can safely consume, but it isn't worth it.

 

[Marowit]

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1010/10100602

the is a link to the reseach paper on here

Thank you

*reads*

That is interesting, the light group and the not-in-pregnancy group had really no difference. The only thing that I want to point out is that the 'light' group tended to be the best off socioeconomically, with the 'not-in-pregnancy' group coming in 2nd on that social scale.

So, it's the classic 'nature vs. nurture' question - people with more money tend to give better eduction, and when you look at the differences that the researches present between the two groups they are the difference of 57.6 vs 56.0 - not a huge difference.

It'd be pretty interesting to see them compare a 'light' and 'not-in-pregnancy' groups of parents from the same socioeconomic status. One could argue that because of this difference the higher-socioeconomic children might be under-performing as a result of the 'light'.

Thanks for the link again though; it's always hard to gather generalizable results when there are so many variables that go into what makes someone intelligent.

 

[IckleMissMayhem]

Once I found out I was pregnant, I'd stop drinking. I've never smoked, so that's not an issue, and I'd avoid any/all substances/chemicals that could be (even potentially) harmful to the baby.

None of that bothers me in the slightest... what I'd miss if I got pregnant would be my job. No, I'm not saying my employer would sack me if I got pregnant, but I wouldn't be able to do my job role whilst pregnant, so I'd be put on restricted duties. (You try finding an insurance company that'd cover a pregnant Outdoors/Watersports Instructor continuing to work as normal...!)

 

[Katana314]

I'm pretty sure they'd be able to give you maternity leave...

 

[Lilitu]

I wouldn't want my baby to drink alcohol after it was born, why should I give him oder her alcohol before it is born?! So it's no alcohol at all while pregnancy to me.
I can do with my life what I want but while pregnant there is another life inside me that I have to care for.

btw: It's the same with smoking. Even second hand smoke can harm a unborn baby e.g. while being in a club or elsewhere.
That you shouldnn't do drugs while pregnant is known, isn't it?! Alcohol and cigarettes are nothing else but legal drugs...

btw2: Since I never drink or smoke while not pregnant (which is most of the time) all that is of course easy to say and do for me.

 

[awesomeClaw]

I´d say: "Holy shit, i´m pregnant? Abortion away!"

And that´d be the end of that. Simple, right?

Abortion is a terrible experience that will scar a woman for life. No matter if you're for or against it, you should acknowledge the severe consequences of abortion.
It is nothing to joke about.

Really, it is?

*Reads further into the effect off abortion*

What "Severe" consequences? Are you talking about the physical pain? Because that won´t "scar" anyone. Sure, it´ll hurt temporarily, and i feel sympathy for the one it hurts on, but we joke about falling, and falling hurts (sometimes), right?

Or are you talking about the "emotional" pain that you only feel because somewhere in your mind you believe abortion is wrong? Or that a fetus is a child? Because i feel no sympathy for "emotional" pain. I wouldn´t feel any "emotional" pain for killing a little parasite using my body as a host if i was a woman and got pregnant. Well, maybe for three days, then i´d shrug it off.

Of course, i´m not a woman, so can anyone that´s had an abortion speak out, perhaps?

 

[awesomeClaw]

I´d say: "Holy shit, i´m pregnant? Abortion away!"

And that´d be the end of that. Simple, right?

Abortion is a terrible experience that will scar a woman for life. No matter if you're for or against it, you should acknowledge the severe consequences of abortion.
It is nothing to joke about.

Really? It will?

*Looks more into the effects of an abortion*

What do you mean with "scar"? Do you mean the brief, (Yet surely agonizing) physical pain? Because there´s a diffrence between "scarring" and "hurting temporarily" you know. I sympathise with those in pain, though. Make no mistake.
But, i mean, falling on a banana peel hurts too, but we joke about that.

Or are you talking about the "emotional" pain that only exists in your mind? That only exists because somewhere, deep down, you feel abortion is wrong? Or that a fetus is a person?
Because that won´t give you any sympathy with me. I wouldn´t feel bad if i got an abortion. Well, okay, maybe for 5 seconds, but after that, i´d be "Meh, sucks to be him" and shrug it off.

EDIT: DOUBLE POST, IGNORE

 

[Erana]

I´d say: "Holy shit, i´m pregnant? Abortion away!"

And that´d be the end of that. Simple, right?

Abortion is a terrible experience that will scar a woman for life. No matter if you're for or against it, you should acknowledge the severe consequences of abortion.
It is nothing to joke about.

Really? It will?

*Looks more into the effects of an abortion*

What do you mean with "scar"? Do you mean the brief, (Yet surely agonizing) physical pain? Because there´s a diffrence between "scarring" and "hurting temporarily" you know. I sympathise with those in pain, though. Make no mistake.
But, i mean, falling on a banana peel hurts too, but we joke about that.

Or are you talking about the "emotional" pain that only exists in your mind? That only exists because somewhere, deep down, you feel abortion is wrong? Or that a fetus is a person?
Because that won´t give you any sympathy with me. I wouldn´t feel bad if i got an abortion. Well, okay, maybe for 5 seconds, but after that, i´d be "Meh, sucks to be him" and shrug it off.

It is emotionally painful. VERY emotionally painful.
But I didn't say anything about whether it is right or wrong. Nor did I voice my stance on its legality.

Women who have abortions are well over twice as likely to suffer from severe depression than a woman who has the child. Losing even the potential child, for any reason, is painful. I know people who have had abortions. I know people who have miscarried. Its not something you do then shrug off like you got a wart removed.
You can see it written on their face every time the anniversary of that event comes around, decades after the fact. Even in societies that play down the affect of abortion, like impoverished Asian countries where having a girl is a detriment to the family, or even in places like Japan, where people don't expect women to be affected by abortions, the women still are.

You can't just shrug it off. You can pick yourself up and continue with your life, but you don't just stop being affected by it.

Not to mention that it can seriously fuck up your uterus, cause variety of complications in future pregnancies and invite various medical complications. The female body is not designed to suddenly go from pregnant to not pregnant, and it makes you sick, greatly weakens the immune system, and drastically increases a woman's liklihood of dying for the next year or so, not to mention the increased suicide rates.

 

[Dags90]

It is emotionally painful. VERY emotionally painful.
But I didn't say anything about whether it is right or wrong. Nor did I voice my stance on its legality.

Women who have abortions are well over twice as likely to suffer from severe depression than a woman who has the child. Losing even the potential child, for any reason, is painful. I know people who have had abortions. I know people who have miscarried. Its not something you do then shrug off like you got a wart removed.
You can see it written on their face every time the anniversary of that event comes around, decades after the fact. Even in societies that play down the affect of abortion, like impoverished Asian countries where having a girl is a detriment to the family, or even in places like Japan, where people don't expect women to be affected by abortions, the women still are.

You can't just shrug it off. You can pick yourself up and continue with your life, but you don't just stop being affected by it.

This requires a massive *For some people.

My mother had two abortions. She doesn't think about them at all really. She was a drug addict and it was the right decision. But this is needlessly venturing off topic.

I wouldn't drink if I were hypothetically pregnant. There's no clear line to prevent FAS, and it seems worth erring on the side of caution, if at least especially for the first two trimesters.

 

[Erana]

It is emotionally painful. VERY emotionally painful.
But I didn't say anything about whether it is right or wrong. Nor did I voice my stance on its legality.

Women who have abortions are well over twice as likely to suffer from severe depression than a woman who has the child. Losing even the potential child, for any reason, is painful. I know people who have had abortions. I know people who have miscarried. Its not something you do then shrug off like you got a wart removed.
You can see it written on their face every time the anniversary of that event comes around, decades after the fact. Even in societies that play down the affect of abortion, like impoverished Asian countries where having a girl is a detriment to the family, or even in places like Japan, where people don't expect women to be affected by abortions, the women still are.

You can't just shrug it off. You can pick yourself up and continue with your life, but you don't just stop being affected by it.

This requires a massive *For some people.

My mother had two abortions. She doesn't think about them at all. She was a drug addict and it was the right decision.

I guess I shouldn't speak for everyone on the emotional effects, I suppose. I am a bit on the emotional side right now with the lady time.
Statistics show that people are more likely than not going to be adversely affected by abortions in some way. Here, with hindsight and personal experience, you have come to your opinion on your mother's abortions. The other guy demonstrated a complete lack of understanding and respect on the issue. I'm not arguing for or against abortion, I'm just trying to say that its no laughing matter.

[small]Its not like I'm extremely PC or srs or anything...[/small]

 

[michiehoward]

Drinking in even small amounts while pregnant is like playing russian roulette.
You may get the bullet or you may not. Correction, your baby may or may not get the bullet.

The more you drink the more you increase the chances of FAS.

And no 2 pregnancies, no drinking. Breatfeed both, didn't drink at that time either.

 

[s0m3th1ng]

Kind of on topic...but what about people that smoke pot while prego? We all know getting your fetus drunk is one of the worst crimes you can commit as a human being...but what about some THC?
One of the few times I've smoked was with a pregnant chick and it freaked me the hell out.

 

[awesomeClaw]

I´d say: "Holy shit, i´m pregnant? Abortion away!"

And that´d be the end of that. Simple, right?

Abortion is a terrible experience that will scar a woman for life. No matter if you're for or against it, you should acknowledge the severe consequences of abortion.
It is nothing to joke about.

Really? It will?

*Looks more into the effects of an abortion*

What do you mean with "scar"? Do you mean the brief, (Yet surely agonizing) physical pain? Because there´s a diffrence between "scarring" and "hurting temporarily" you know. I sympathise with those in pain, though. Make no mistake.
But, i mean, falling on a banana peel hurts too, but we joke about that.

Or are you talking about the "emotional" pain that only exists in your mind? That only exists because somewhere, deep down, you feel abortion is wrong? Or that a fetus is a person?
Because that won´t give you any sympathy with me. I wouldn´t feel bad if i got an abortion. Well, okay, maybe for 5 seconds, but after that, i´d be "Meh, sucks to be him" and shrug it off.

It is emotionally painful. VERY emotionally painful.
But I didn't say anything about whether it is right or wrong. Nor did I voice my stance on its legality.

Women who have abortions are well over twice as likely to suffer from severe depression than a woman who has the child. Losing even the potential child, for any reason, is painful. I know people who have had abortions. I know people who have miscarried. Its not something you do then shrug off like you got a wart removed.
You can see it written on their face every time the anniversary of that event comes around, decades after the fact. Even in societies that play down the affect of abortion, like impoverished Asian countries where having a girl is a detriment to the family, or even in places like Japan, where people don't expect women to be affected by abortions, the women still are.

You can't just shrug it off. You can pick yourself up and continue with your life, but you don't just stop being affected by it.

Not to mention that it can seriously fuck up your uterus, cause variety of complications in future pregnancies and invite various medical complications. The female body is not designed to suddenly go from pregnant to not pregnant, and it makes you sick, greatly weakens the immune system, and drastically increases a woman's liklihood of dying for the next year or so, not to mention the increased suicide rates.

Here we go again with "emotional" pain. Emotional pain does not extend to everyone, like that other dude/dudette said. I am fairly certain that if i was able to get pregnant and had an abortion, i would not be greatly affected by it. Also, i didn´t mean that you OPPOSED abortion, just that deep down, you feel that you are somehow doing something morally incorrect.

Also, the things you mentioned in the end, i apoligize for my factual errors. I suppose i could of done more research, you´re in the right on those things. Sorry. (Though the suicide rates are still in the "emotional" pain category)

Anyway. Let us stop this here before anyone of us greatly annoys/offends the other with what they perceive as annoying/offensive, shall we? *Offers to shake Erana´s hand*

(This section covers your other posts that mentioned me. Yes, it is a laughing matter. EVERYTHING IS A LAUGHING MATTER. Always remember that. Now, if you find it funny or not, that´s an entirely diffrent question. But here´s a bit of advice if you don´t: Ignore it and leave it to the people who do find it funny - you don´t need to ruin their pleasure by complaining about it, do you?)

 

[Hiraeth]

I want a maybe option. Because I don't generally drink a lot now, and so if I got pregnant I probably wouldn't want to start binge drinking. That said, if I decide that I want half a glass of wine occasionally when I'm pregnant, I'm going to have it. If I do get pregnant what I'd be more concerned about is limiting my caffeine intake, since for me personally that's more of an immediate concern - I seem to drink a lot of tea, coffee and coke.

Once you get pregnant, people are going to tell you a million and one things that you should and shouldn't do or eat, but I feel like as long as I'm careful, and I only drink in the quantities that my doctor has told me are safe then it's my choice. As far as I am aware, having half a glass of wine once every few months isn't going to cause FAS. That said, maybe I won't drink at all, I don't actually know how I will behave, since I'm not currently pregnant.

Also, if my partner informed me that they'd not be allowing me to carry a child if I intended to occasionally drink very small quantities of alcohol, the they'd better be expecting not to drink either.

 

[Anarchemitis]

My mom drank while I was in womb and I turd out justin fine.

You spell bad? That's unpossible!

As it stands, I actively avoid consuming alcohols (methanol, ethanol, pentanol, Hexadecan-1-ol etc.), because of a negative preference. Then again, I also must have this opinion modulated against the fact that I am a dude and therefore cannot bear children directly.

 

[Faladorian]

I'm a guy, so I can't be but...

If drinking could make you miscarry, I'd be out every night.

If you couldn't already tell, I hate children.