All of her friends no longer like you now that you dumped her friend?
I'm very confused, were you surprised by this?
I'm very confused, were you surprised by this?
What you did wrong was not ending the first relationship when you began to suspect you weren't committed to it. Jumping from one relationship into another looks like sketchy timing, and they probably assume there was some infidelity involved.132635 said:Well, I was dating a girl since December, but yesterday, Monday the blah blah. I decided on the way to school that I was going to end it. I had fallen for another girl. Now, she didn't "seduce me" into taking her over my current date. I was just more attracted to her, and generally happier when I was with her. I told my (ex) girlfriend that I had feelings for other people. She knew who I meant. Immediately, all of her friends who tolerated me as the Mr. Nice Guy lynched me. All my guy friends told me I did what was right. So, my fellow Escapists, is what I did wrong? Should I feel angry over my choices?
I wasn't saying she SHOULD become a slut, I'm just saying a lot of people choose that path, it was a disconnected statement sorta related to the topic... Also, if you haven't noticed LIFE IS A STRING OF DISSAPOINTMENTS in fact a great deal of real life is situations shitting all over you, people being insensitive pricks and assholes, and nothing you do can change that, it's better to get used to that early, that not everything works out, not everything is bright and beautiful and not everything goes your way, this is a lot different than punching people, don't make that connection, incidental emotional pain is far different than random acts of physical violence.Nieroshai said:Your attempts to dodge this by saying it isn't so bad ignore some things. First, since when is causing harm a good thing? Yes people should get over being hurt, but that doesn't make it right to hurt people. If this excuse was viable, it would be perfectly legal to go around punching people. They'll get better. Second, your opinions of sex are just that: opinion. Likely, "she" believed sex was just between them and felt used. You are ignoring her needs and wants in every aspect of this, saying basically that she should suck it up and would benefit from becoming a slut. What about her feelings here? She probably feels deeply violated!DoomyMcDoom said:*snippety*Nieroshai said:*snip*
I would've gone with a couple of weeks without entering into the new relationship. I wouldn't specifically say it's because I found a new girl, rather I would've said something along the lines of it's not working out, with a couple of specific reasons why. If the new girl is any good, she will be willing to wait a couple of weeks. If she can't wait, the potential relationship was doomed before it started. But that's just my take on it, I'm not really an expert when it comes to relationships.Naeras said:As opposed to staying in a relationship you don't want to be in?smithy_2045 said:IMO, dumping someone and immediately getting into a relationship with someone else isn't cool. That's what it boils down to for me.Naeras said:edit:
Also, a question to the people who say "you could've handled this better": can I ask how? Unless that's a long-distance relationship thing or anything he can flat-out keep secret(which it really didn't sound like it was, considering his old girl knew who this was), what could he have done?
Or opposed to dumping her without giving her a reason, waiting for your ex to get over you(which can take a long time), and then getting together with the person you specifically dumped your girlfriend for?
Or to plainly cheating?
That's the only other solutions I see. The first one is something nobody with a sliver of self-respect should ever do to themselves. The second one will probably cause you to lose both girls, thus you end up shooting yourself in the foot. The third one is self-explanatory why you shouldn't do.
Again, what other solutions are there?
Good points all, I think we have a decent middle ground. I suppose it isn't our place to speculate, and that may be my ultimate problem: my background makes me feel that speculation is necessary because the situation (presumably) can't be that simple. We were asked a simple question, and I probably read in too far. Handshake?Hagi said:I guess I don't see as the choice between hurting her over the short term (breaking up) or hurting her and yourself both a lot more on the long term (staying together even though you clearly don't want to) qualifies as morally grey. Seems pretty clear cut to me.Nieroshai said:That makes sense, but I guess our definition of "morally gray" differs. A morally white choice is entirely untainted by ethical issues. A morally gray issue can either be an issue where some wrong was done but possibly for a good reason (hurting someone to gain personal happiness), or that there is neither right nor wrong in the issue (reading a magazine while waiting for the dentist). I will say right now that morally gray is not necessarily something to be avoided. If he was deeply unhappy, he was right to move on. Some decisions do not have a morally white response. Spider-man must save the falling bus OR Mary Jane, but either way someone must die by his choice. OP must leave, or else be unhappy and constantly regretting his current relationship. It's morally gray because while it did good for him, it did bad for someone else. One thing that even caused me to bring up the infidelity argument in the first place is my feeling that we don't have the full story. Was he fine with her til the new girl came along, or was he already unhappy? Did his heart want to leave from the beginning, or did his penis decide the grass would be greener? In my experience, there is always more to the story than told, especially when someone wants out of a relationship.
I mean every decision you make is going to do bad for someone else. Every time I go shopping groceries I'm making other people wait in line. I'm spending that money on myself instead of dying African children. I'm polluting the environment with the packaging of my products. etc.
I still can't really think of grocery shopping as morally grey. Seems pretty clear cut to me.
As for the full story, we don't know the full story. It's useless to speculate. The OP asked for advice given the details he provided. It's useless to provide advice based on your own speculation. In the end, I don't believe it's our place to speculate and judge.
Handshake it isNieroshai said:Good points all, I think we have a decent middle ground. I suppose it isn't our place to speculate, and that may be my ultimate problem: my background makes me feel that speculation is necessary because the situation (presumably) can't be that simple. We were asked a simple question, and I probably read in too far. Handshake?