Poll: Flawlwss Victory: Can you think of a game that is perfect?

[bartholen_v1legacy]

Chrono Trigger. Though it is strangely not my favorite SNES game.

This. The story, characters, pacing, art design, gameplay, amount of content, especially the music, even the graphics. Simply sublime. I cannot think of any (major) criticisms for that game.

Though I wish now that there was a hard mode, it is a wee bit too easy.

Yeah its a bit too easy I agree. My only criticism of the game is that it takes too long to get Frog back into the party

I never really cared for Frog, neither in gameplay or story. His character doesn't really become full circle until you complete the Cyrus sidequest, although I was genuinely surprised at the twist about him and Magus.

I consider Frog to be the least useful of the characters along with Marle. He is strong in neither melee or magic and his techs aren't really that good. This is where the difficulty becomes a problem: if there were higher difficulty settings, the kind of mix-class between melee/light magic/healer Frog is could be really useful for more tactical gameplay. Now he's just... okay.

 

[dimensional]

Persona 4, it is literally perfect in every single way. I never understood why people say "nothing is perfect" surely something, somewhere, sometime must have been completely perfect.

Personally that thing is Persona 4. I have never seriously called something perfect before. I'm not even nostalgia blinded! I was 18 when I played it for the first time.

Yes nobody is perfect but something can be perfect

I can only assume it's a religious thing. Only God is perfect right? So those old painters used to intentionally scratch their work slightly to make it not "perfect." Does that translate over if you don't believe in said deity?

This is why I don't visit the R&P forums...

Perfection is an ideal not a state of being basically like an infinite something to keep you going forward and achieve new heights but by its very nature is completely unattainable and cant physically exist, you also cant get near perfection because of this.

God is said to exist and as such is not perfect in fact im not sure many religions even say that their god is perfect especially in pantheons where they are usually all seen as hugely flawed but powerful beings. Lots of religious types would of course twist what they read into saying their God(s) are perfect though. If he/she/it/they/etc dosent exist he (etc) isnt perfect either, for obvious reasons.

So for me no game is perfect but ones that felt like a fulfillment of the designers vision to me at least were Okami on PS2 and Journey on PS3 and Valkyria Chronicles on PS3 it just felt like they had a vision (limited vision) and carried it out with great expertise.

There are other games I like more though although these were ones I enjoyed immensely.

 

[Laurents van Cauwenberghe]

witcher 2... that is all

 

[dcdude171]

I think a lot of people are confusing a " Perfect game" With their favorite game on this list. Some of my favorite games still have flaws. A lot of people saying super metroid is the closest thing to a perfect game they have ever played. I have't played it personally but thats what I heard. As far a games I played Metal gear solid 3- Its probably my favorite game as well. Perfect pacing, controls atmosphere and story. Bioshock is my other favorite game But I believe the whole little sister mechanic is too repetitive for it to be perfect as well as that the ending changes if you fuck up and kill one little sister. Another game that is close to perfect is Link to the pastt.

 

[Bestival]

I would have to go with Magicka, a lot of it would have made a different game not perfect if you put that feature in that game. But in Magicka everything works as a package.

 

[unindexedsearchengine]

It's gotta be one of three: Warcraft 3( with expasion) or Portal 2 or Assassins Creed 2(im gonna get murdered for this)

 

[Saviordd1]

Portal. That's it. While its not my favorite game it is the ONLY game I could walk away from and have zero complaints about. Except the cake is a lie jokes, but that's another issue.

But when you come down to it people will either
A: Ignore the bad parts and call it perfect.
or
B: Say that no game is perfect.

Its all to subjective honestly.

 

[Conza]

Wow I'm the 71st person to think they have a perfect game.

Crash Bandicoot 2.

For the younger viewer, it was a Playstation 1 game released late 1997, and in my opinion having played various platformers before and since, this is still the best, I've clocked this game twice, that's 100% completion, it's in some ways a very easy game, but when it comes to the challenging takes (mostly acquiring gems and coloured gems under special conditions), that's when the game really comes into its own, achieving that last 25% is very rewarding and extremely frustrating at the same time.

Overall, it just does what a platform game should, pointless cheesy story line, 2 dimensional characters, and simple no non-sense platform gameplay involving skilled timing, precision, level stategy, this game "is" its gameplay, thats its only real meaningful factor, marking it on anything else is pointless, especially by today's standards, but I think the gameplay is so good, I'd even call it timeless.

I put this here under the basis that it is impossible to make a perfect game, even the most basic game will have flaws, and CB2 isn't immune to them, but I think it has dated very well, was at the peak of platform gaming. There's nothing like running through an entire level, without making a single mistake, getting the crystal and the gem, making it to the finish teleport, and just feeling like a complete boss because you pulled it off.

Even after all of the amazing RPGs, RTSs, even FPSs, many of which I'd rate 9.X/10 some 10/10, this game is still my favourite of all time, because it achieves what a platform game, well every good game should achieve, it's addictive, rewarding, and mega fun. The perfect game.

 

[GonzoGamer]

I think a lot of people are confusing a " Perfect game" With their favorite game on this list. Some of my favorite games still have flaws. A lot of people saying super metroid is the closest thing to a perfect game they have ever played. I have't played it personally but thats what I heard. As far a games I played Metal gear solid 3- Its probably my favorite game as well. Perfect pacing, controls atmosphere and story. Bioshock is my other favorite game But I believe the whole little sister mechanic is too repetitive for it to be perfect as well as that the ending changes if you fuck up and kill one little sister. Another game that is close to perfect is Link to the pastt.

I kind of expected that but what you said is the reason I started the thread: I realized that a lot of my favorite games have (sometimes many) flaws. I particularly like severely buggy open world games like San Andreas & Fallout 3.
I specified my question to the point of what games would you not make any changes to so there is some room for interpretation. Some people like the flaws in some of their favorite games; think that it adds to the charm. I guess I just have that perspective more with music than with games. For example, in San Andreas there's a song called Grunt by The JBs. Not the tightest musical recording in the game by far but it's definitely my favorite song in the game. The messy rhythm is (to me) part of what makes the song so interesting and perfect for that game.
I've been trying to think of a game that's perfect (flawless &/or I wouldn't improve on it) and I don't think I can. There's always something that pulls it back from the brink of perfection: Valkyria Chronicles needed a 2p (splitscreen & online) mode, Portal was a little slow to get moving, Borderlands was very static, and Link to the Past... I did love that but played it a while ago. I'm sure there was something that bugged me about it.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Not really, something is going to have some flaws, no matter how minor. Besides, perfection is subjective.

exactly,

try describing the "perfect woman/man"

everyone is going to have different answers.

flaws to some people are strengths(or don't matter/bother them) to others.

I can't honestly suggest any game, even the portal games, they have always been fun, but i've said it before and i'll say it again, they feel like over polished flash games, that you play once and are done. Nearly every game i buy i play again and again, and i can't do that for the life of me with portal 1 and 2, which i would then consider a flaw.

 

[The__Doctor]

No.. for me, there's no such thing as a perfect game. However, Monkey Island 1 and Dune 2 come close. Interesting, entertaining, engaging and in the case of Monkey Island just downright funny from start to finish!

All the recent titles that I play on the PC and PS3 are fun and usually worth their money, but perfect... nah!

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

Chrono Trigger, everytime I play that game I just want to hug it and go "never ever change!"

 

[Flizzick]

The first two Jak and Daxter games stunned the living piss out of me when I played them

 

[Elvis Starburst]

Your title! *boosh* (Might wanna fix that spelling error)

OT: Shadow of the Colossus

 

[gunny1993]

Perfection is impossible, hence nothing is perfect.

 

[Fasckira]

"Secret of the Magic Crystals"

A rollercoaster of game blending a delicate storyline and intuitive gameplay seamlessly into one pretty package. In the eyes of a pony/unicorn loving little girl, this game is perfect.

Dont know about a game that is perfect to everyone though.

 

[Lt._nefarious]

Halo Reach and Bioshock are gaming perfection in my mind. Abso-freaking-lutely love those games.

 

[AgentLampshade]

Fanboy bias incoming.

Devil May Cry 3. It was the pinnacle of action/adventure. It had everything right.

The music set the mood perfectly.
The voices (and motion actors) were well-cast.
Everything was just good to look at.
It paced the action well with a few puzzles here and there.
The characters were memorable.
Everything was just right. Everything. I still play it to this day. In fact, I have more hours racked up on it (special edition) than I do with many of my RPGs I have.

 

[Icehearted]

Perfection is impossible, hence nothing is perfect.

I think it comes down to being perfect at what it does, not at everything. In this regard there are perfect games out there, though the merit of it's enjoyment will be subjective 100% of the time.

I would say that Ultima 7 collection is perfect. It does everything it's supposed to, and for it's time rather beautifully. Wipeout XL, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Point Blank (with Guncon), and Yoshi's Island were also examples of perfection according to the criteria I've specified (though again, the "fun" equation is subjective).

You may not agree, but I feel your outlook is narrow, and making such dogmatically blanket statements like that dismisses the possibility of what is otherwise very possible for even you.

 

[firelightning1]

I have to go with Fallout 3, even with all the glitches it is still the most perfect game I have ever played in terms of enjoyment.