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F-I-D-O said:
Yes, they have an obvious bias. So does EVERYTHING else. That said, I completely ignore their video game news group, which needs to get a new brain cell, their only one is wearing away fast.
Custer's Revenge was (thankfully) a LONG time ago. Let's move on, Fox video game division.
It's like Rush Limbaugh. He's not the devil people think he is, if you take the time to read his work, he is not nearly as crazy as EVERYTHING makes him out to be.
Fox isn't the best, but they are by far not the worst.
THANK YOU, MISTER PERSON.

The average person hates Fox news without ever really watching it. They'll see like, five different Youtube clips from it over the course of three years, find them all to be stupid, then assume the whole channel must be nothing but stupidity because of that.

Sean Hannity is pretty level-headed. He's just an honest person who is up front about his opinions and ideals and doesn't get into people's faces with it.

Glenn Beck is a wild, hilarious entertainer. He's also very sharp, very well-educated and very clever. He does, however, need to clean his bullshit filter, because bullshit comes out of his mouth every once and a while. Oh my god, in that regard, he's so much like Movie Bob it's unbelievable!

Bill O Reilly you absolutely do not fuck with. He doesn't tell you how wrong you are; he tricks you into making you say how wrong you are yourself. He's a mastermind at arguing things. He also does a really, really good job of being as central as possible. He criticizes the hell out of Obama, he criticized the hell out of Bush, his is the most popular show on the network, so people can officially, completely, totally and whole-heatedly stop whining about how 'Fox is extremely conservatively biased'. Sure, it's conservative compared to the other major news networks, there a problem with that?
 

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You people need to be praising Fox News. If it didn't exist then we wouldn't have the Daily Show or Colbert Report to make fun of it. I guess if it were gone it would actually free all the stupid people from its influence and they could actually think for themselves for once. However, it is still hilarious to try to demonize video games even though it is apparent that they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about.

Watch this forum be on Fox News at some point. "Tonight on Fox, a website known as 'the escapist' is collaborating with gamers to use TERRORISM to try and intimidate this very news organization. We don't know the cause, but early speculation says that Obama is somehow to blame."
 

Icyheart

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Had a look through the Fox News vs. Mass Effect fiasco again and I still can't find a reasonable argument in Fox's favor.
 

astrav1

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It's fun to watch, and even more fun to watch the daily show make fun of it. Of course I don't trust any major cable news network, In fact I trust the daily show more.
 

YawningAngel

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I'm all for Fox, since while they do imdeed sound devious reprehensible and manipulative theyre exhibiting thesecqualities on another continent to me, which means their only effete on my life is to make money for newscorp to fund things I actually care about, such a the bugle.
 

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Ladette said:
Fox, CNN, NBC, they're all ultra biased and barely worth taking the time to pay attention to. Just a bunch of worthless talking heads who's sole purpose is to convince easily manipulated morons to believe what they say.

May they all die in a fire.
I've heard this a lot, and maybe i'm just an idiot, but I fail to see bias in CNN. The entire reason they dont get the ratings of FOX or MSNBC is because they don't provide a slanted good vs evil style narrative. People love to hate a villain, an i've noticed CNN doesn't provide one.

I'm not saying CNN is good, cable news sucks, but whats with lumping them with the other 2?
 

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UltraHammer said:
F-I-D-O said:
Yes, they have an obvious bias. So does EVERYTHING else. That said, I completely ignore their video game news group, which needs to get a new brain cell, their only one is wearing away fast.
Custer's Revenge was (thankfully) a LONG time ago. Let's move on, Fox video game division.
It's like Rush Limbaugh. He's not the devil people think he is, if you take the time to read his work, he is not nearly as crazy as EVERYTHING makes him out to be.
Fox isn't the best, but they are by far not the worst.
THANK YOU, MISTER PERSON.

The average person hates Fox news without ever really watching it. They'll see like, five different Youtube clips from it over the course of three years, find them all to be stupid, then assume the whole channel must be nothing but stupidity because of that.

Sean Hannity is pretty level-headed. He's just an honest person who is up front about his opinions and ideals and doesn't get into people's faces with it.

Glenn Beck is a wild, hilarious entertainer. He's also very sharp, very well-educated and very clever. He does, however, need to clean his bullshit filter, because bullshit comes out of his mouth every once and a while. Oh my god, in that regard, he's so much like Movie Bob it's unbelievable!

Bill O Reilly you absolutely do not fuck with. He doesn't tell you how wrong you are; he tricks you into making you say how wrong you are yourself. He's a mastermind at arguing things. He also does a really, really good job of being as central as possible. He criticizes the hell out of Obama, he criticized the hell out of Bush, his is the most popular show on the network, so people can officially, completely, totally and whole-heatedly stop whining about how 'Fox is extremely conservatively biased'. Sure, it's conservative compared to the other major news networks, there a problem with that?
You do know that criticising Bush isn't the same as criticising the Right? And that criticising both party leaders doesn't make you balanced?

The Young Turks criticise Obama all the time, they're still on the Left.

And O'Reilly couldn't debate his way out of a paper bag. The only thing he could come up with for being religious when he spoke to Richard Dawkins was that science didn't have all the answers, so he'd just stick to religion because it "explained" everything right off the bat.

Also note the videos I posted of him earlier in the thread, as well as the one about Glenn Beck.
 

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On the one hand i don't agree with their views or their policies on how to run a news media, and i truly believe they are a source of danger consider hoe many people take them seriously.
On the other hand they are part of what we call "free press" (which i am fully in support of, even if it allows freedom of press that promotes opinions i don't agree with), and i truly believe with the help of some basic education that promotes critical thinking, all human beings have the capacity to see them for what they really are.
 

hexFrank202

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Woodsey said:
The Romans killed him, and Jesus was a Jew.
Roman guards physically killed him, but the Jewish people are the ones who demanded his crucifixion. Pontius Pilate, the roman guy in charge over there, urged them to let him go. But the Jews demanded he be executed, and Pilate didn't want to start an uproar.

But it's not like Jewish people should feel convicted or even a little guilty about that. Like they said, Jesus was a Jew too. It's like how Americans killed lots of other Americans in the civil war. =\
 

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Woodsey said:
He doesn't just rip on every president. He does way more than that. Actually, for the most part, he doesn't really express his own opinion at all. Like I said before; he lets his interviewees do a lot of the talking for him.

As for religion? Well, science really doesn't have all the answers. Most humans have a deep-seeded desire to know everything, and since we can't know how exactly reality came to be, lots of people like to fill that in with something made up. It's not like they all want to dictate people's lives with it, it's not like they want to force everyone to think like them, it's not like they think they're even right, it's just an abstract idea they believe in to be comfortable and at-peace. I think David Wong put it best:
http://www.cracked.com/article_15759_10-things-christians-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on_p2.html
 

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Shouldn't there be a governing agency making sure that companies which market themselves as "news" are actually providing factually correct information? I wouldn't mind if fox continued to exist as long as it stopped claiming that it was presenting facts when it wasn't, that should be illegal. Lying as a corporate business model should be illegal.
 

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Fox News would be okay in my book if they made three changes:
1. Drop the "fair and balanced" tagline.
2. Change their name to "Fox Propoganda."
3. Actually practice what they preach. You can't tell me that raunchy TV shows corrupt our youth and be expected to be taken seriously when your network shows raunchy TV shows! Cancel shows like Family Guy and then get back to me. Seriously, cancel it, I can't stand that overrated pile of crap.
 

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MY solution to the Fox News problem is this..I ignore whatever they say because 90 percent of the time it's just inaccurate stories filled with scare tactics.
 

Woodsey

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UltraHammer said:
Woodsey said:
He doesn't just rip on every president. He does way more than that. Actually, for the most part, he doesn't really express his own opinion at all. Like I said before; he lets his interviewees do a lot of the talking for him.

As for religion? Well, science really doesn't have all the answers. Most humans have a deep-seeded desire to know everything, and since we can't know how exactly reality came to be, lots of people like to fill that in with something made up. It's not like they all want to dictate people's lives with it, it's not like they want to force everyone to think like them, it's not like they think they're even right, it's just an abstract idea they believe in to be comfortable and at-peace. I think David Wong put it best:
http://www.cracked.com/article_15759_10-things-christians-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on_p2.html
He expresses his opinion plenty, not always in full sentences, but take, for example, the WikiLeaks incident: you could tell O'Reilly's stance from way he pronounced Assange (like a snarky arse hole).

And I know science doesn't have all the answers, that's not what I'm saying - I'm saying, his reasoning of, "it doesn't have all the answers, so I'm just going to accept the default option, and nevermind the fact I don't even know other planets have moons," is ridiculous.

Fox News rakes in millions of viewers, and consistently lies to them outright, and then presents itself as a news that is "fair and balanced". It's a fucking insult and a disgrace, and I'm not even American.
 

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fox is only loved by so many people because they sensationalize news and twist it to make them able to be as passionate and intense about every story. they realized that people like it when things are intense extreme or radical, so rather than shift threw news that is at such a degree they blow every story out of proportion and if they need to make up facts they will.
 

Trivun

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I absolutely loathe Fox News. And the problem is that people in the US believe them unquestionably and don't take their words with even a pinch of salt, let alone the dollop that is really needed. They may have their decent points, as some have said, but on the whole those few points are drowned out by the sheer lies that they tell, not just about things like video games (which aren't exactly important), but also about things like the US government, openly opposing anything that the conservative fringes of US politics are against, even when they would be a massive benefit to the people and to the economy (the health bill, for example).

Ah well, at least we don't have anything that stupid or biased here in the UK...

The_root_of_all_evil said:
The American version of our Tabloids. Never to be taken as anything other than biased claims unless you have two other reliable sources backing them up.

And you know why?

He owns both.
Damn.

This man, Rupert Murdoch, is the reason why the only newspaper I trust is my student newspaper at university (because student journalism, thankfully, appears to be one of the few areas of journalism that still has relative journalistic integrity). Even those papers in the UK that aren't owned by Murdoch tend to be biased, simply in the opposite direction. My parents buy The Sun and News Of The World all the time, and something I noticed when I still lived with them is that both newspapers tend to put 'celebrity news' on the front page (particularly football stuff) unless there's a political scandal, instead of real news that we should actually care about (how much attention did they give the student protests except to call for student arrests of the idiots who were throwing stuff off the Conservative tower roof?). Also, they usually put all their support behind the Opposition, regardless of who's in power, except for right after an election.

The only news source I trust now, that isn't student journalism, is the BBC, and Reuters. At least with the BBC there's very little bias at all, and Reuters are completely independent anyway...
 

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Rationalization said:
Comedy Central is reliable. And CNN can always be relied on to be the least biased but incompetent.
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Thus, all three viewed together is a better option than just one.
Well, I prefer my news from BBC and Reuters but mostly from Al Jazeera after it was recommended by Glenn Greenwald.

And before you start giving Al Jazeera funny looks for its name, remember, Sir David Frost (of Frost/Nixon fame) works there, as does Riz Khan (formerly from CNN and BBC). I've seen few shows that look as deep into the USA as their show Fault Line, hosted by Josh Rushing (a former Marine) and Avi Lewis (from CBC).

Compared to them, US broadcasters are downright incompetent.

During the 2011 Egyptian protests, Salon.com wrote that "Al Jazeera's Egypt coverage embarrasses U.S. cable news channels.", and WikiLeaks commented on their Twitter feed that "Yes, we may have helped Tunisia, Egypt. But let us not forget the elephant in the room: Al Jazeera + sat dishes".

Of course, to counter their influence, the US simply <url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera#United_States>bombed <url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_bombing_memo#Previous_U.S._bombings_of_Al_Jazeera_offices>them.
 

Varanfan9

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I really hate them. The idiots like this keep actual smart Conservatives under wraps while they can display their udder stupidity in the lime light.
 

juraigamer

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The entire channel is ignorance and warped words and stories designed to further a certain political party, furthermore they won't even state that's the case. They even try to deny accusations that others can show them, in video records, even recent ones. Pure ignorance and it's only hurting the united... well I honestly wouldn't call it united... states.
 

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They're just stupid beyond belief.

I get the feeling they're RL Trolls.... I mean nobody can honestly believe that, right?