Poll: Fox News
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Fox news is one of many of the new breed of news shows that don't seek to inform but to provide a viewpoint.
People watch these kind of news programmes to have their own opinion reinforced, not challenged, and the ability to pick news stories is a godsend for this. You want to make democrat government look weak? Highlight their failings! Want to promote Republican government? Just make out that the good economy under Bush administration was BECAUSE of the Bush administration.
This is why I hate news programmes in general, they don't inform, all tell different stories from different perspectives, barely any facts at all.
People watch these kind of news programmes to have their own opinion reinforced, not challenged, and the ability to pick news stories is a godsend for this. You want to make democrat government look weak? Highlight their failings! Want to promote Republican government? Just make out that the good economy under Bush administration was BECAUSE of the Bush administration.
This is why I hate news programmes in general, they don't inform, all tell different stories from different perspectives, barely any facts at all.
I have to go with Jatal Khyron's argument here.
I grew up in a split family, my mother watching Fox News and listening to Rush Limbaugh. My father watching MSNBC and basically screaming at my mother if he ever caught me watching or listening to her political shows.
Democrats can be just as hateful. They can twist the truth just as much. It's politics, it's what happens.
For that matter, people have perfectly understandable reasons to believe the things they do. Put yourself in the shoes of the other person and understand WHY they believe what they believe. Try to have a little empathy. There are plenty of GOOD arguments made from the Republican standpoint that get ignored simply because people don't want to listen.
Your Republican "ignorant crowd" is in fact more knowledgeable than others on quite a few issues. http://people-press.org/report/554/news-iq-knowledge-quiz
I grew up in a split family, my mother watching Fox News and listening to Rush Limbaugh. My father watching MSNBC and basically screaming at my mother if he ever caught me watching or listening to her political shows.
Democrats can be just as hateful. They can twist the truth just as much. It's politics, it's what happens.
For that matter, people have perfectly understandable reasons to believe the things they do. Put yourself in the shoes of the other person and understand WHY they believe what they believe. Try to have a little empathy. There are plenty of GOOD arguments made from the Republican standpoint that get ignored simply because people don't want to listen.
Your Republican "ignorant crowd" is in fact more knowledgeable than others on quite a few issues. http://people-press.org/report/554/news-iq-knowledge-quiz
The Romans killed him, and Jesus was a Jew. And my understanding is that Judas betrayed him because he started to doubt him. The most I can find about Jewish involvement was that some were uppity about him claiming to be the son of God, but they weren't the ones to kill him.AnubisAuman said:
http://bible.cc/luke/23-2.htm
THANK YOU, MISTER PERSON.F-I-D-O said:
The average person hates Fox news without ever really watching it. They'll see like, five different Youtube clips from it over the course of three years, find them all to be stupid, then assume the whole channel must be nothing but stupidity because of that.
Sean Hannity is pretty level-headed. He's just an honest person who is up front about his opinions and ideals and doesn't get into people's faces with it.
Glenn Beck is a wild, hilarious entertainer. He's also very sharp, very well-educated and very clever. He does, however, need to clean his bullshit filter, because bullshit comes out of his mouth every once and a while. Oh my god, in that regard, he's so much like Movie Bob it's unbelievable!
Bill O Reilly you absolutely do not fuck with. He doesn't tell you how wrong you are; he tricks you into making you say how wrong you are yourself. He's a mastermind at arguing things. He also does a really, really good job of being as central as possible. He criticizes the hell out of Obama, he criticized the hell out of Bush, his is the most popular show on the network, so people can officially, completely, totally and whole-heatedly stop whining about how 'Fox is extremely conservatively biased'. Sure, it's conservative compared to the other major news networks, there a problem with that?
You people need to be praising Fox News. If it didn't exist then we wouldn't have the Daily Show or Colbert Report to make fun of it. I guess if it were gone it would actually free all the stupid people from its influence and they could actually think for themselves for once. However, it is still hilarious to try to demonize video games even though it is apparent that they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about.
Watch this forum be on Fox News at some point. "Tonight on Fox, a website known as 'the escapist' is collaborating with gamers to use TERRORISM to try and intimidate this very news organization. We don't know the cause, but early speculation says that Obama is somehow to blame."
Watch this forum be on Fox News at some point. "Tonight on Fox, a website known as 'the escapist' is collaborating with gamers to use TERRORISM to try and intimidate this very news organization. We don't know the cause, but early speculation says that Obama is somehow to blame."
I'm all for Fox, since while they do imdeed sound devious reprehensible and manipulative theyre exhibiting thesecqualities on another continent to me, which means their only effete on my life is to make money for newscorp to fund things I actually care about, such a the bugle.
I've heard this a lot, and maybe i'm just an idiot, but I fail to see bias in CNN. The entire reason they dont get the ratings of FOX or MSNBC is because they don't provide a slanted good vs evil style narrative. People love to hate a villain, an i've noticed CNN doesn't provide one.Ladette said:
I'm not saying CNN is good, cable news sucks, but whats with lumping them with the other 2?
You do know that criticising Bush isn't the same as criticising the Right? And that criticising both party leaders doesn't make you balanced?UltraHammer said:
The Young Turks criticise Obama all the time, they're still on the Left.
And O'Reilly couldn't debate his way out of a paper bag. The only thing he could come up with for being religious when he spoke to Richard Dawkins was that science didn't have all the answers, so he'd just stick to religion because it "explained" everything right off the bat.
Also note the videos I posted of him earlier in the thread, as well as the one about Glenn Beck.
On the one hand i don't agree with their views or their policies on how to run a news media, and i truly believe they are a source of danger consider hoe many people take them seriously.
On the other hand they are part of what we call "free press" (which i am fully in support of, even if it allows freedom of press that promotes opinions i don't agree with), and i truly believe with the help of some basic education that promotes critical thinking, all human beings have the capacity to see them for what they really are.
On the other hand they are part of what we call "free press" (which i am fully in support of, even if it allows freedom of press that promotes opinions i don't agree with), and i truly believe with the help of some basic education that promotes critical thinking, all human beings have the capacity to see them for what they really are.
Roman guards physically killed him, but the Jewish people are the ones who demanded his crucifixion. Pontius Pilate, the roman guy in charge over there, urged them to let him go. But the Jews demanded he be executed, and Pilate didn't want to start an uproar.Woodsey said:
But it's not like Jewish people should feel convicted or even a little guilty about that. Like they said, Jesus was a Jew too. It's like how Americans killed lots of other Americans in the civil war. =\
He doesn't just rip on every president. He does way more than that. Actually, for the most part, he doesn't really express his own opinion at all. Like I said before; he lets his interviewees do a lot of the talking for him.Woodsey said:
As for religion? Well, science really doesn't have all the answers. Most humans have a deep-seeded desire to know everything, and since we can't know how exactly reality came to be, lots of people like to fill that in with something made up. It's not like they all want to dictate people's lives with it, it's not like they want to force everyone to think like them, it's not like they think they're even right, it's just an abstract idea they believe in to be comfortable and at-peace. I think David Wong put it best:
http://www.cracked.com/article_15759_10-things-christians-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on_p2.html
Shouldn't there be a governing agency making sure that companies which market themselves as "news" are actually providing factually correct information? I wouldn't mind if fox continued to exist as long as it stopped claiming that it was presenting facts when it wasn't, that should be illegal. Lying as a corporate business model should be illegal.
Fox News would be okay in my book if they made three changes:
1. Drop the "fair and balanced" tagline.
2. Change their name to "Fox Propoganda."
3. Actually practice what they preach. You can't tell me that raunchy TV shows corrupt our youth and be expected to be taken seriously when your network shows raunchy TV shows! Cancel shows like Family Guy and then get back to me. Seriously, cancel it, I can't stand that overrated pile of crap.
1. Drop the "fair and balanced" tagline.
2. Change their name to "Fox Propoganda."
3. Actually practice what they preach. You can't tell me that raunchy TV shows corrupt our youth and be expected to be taken seriously when your network shows raunchy TV shows! Cancel shows like Family Guy and then get back to me. Seriously, cancel it, I can't stand that overrated pile of crap.
MY solution to the Fox News problem is this..I ignore whatever they say because 90 percent of the time it's just inaccurate stories filled with scare tactics.
He expresses his opinion plenty, not always in full sentences, but take, for example, the WikiLeaks incident: you could tell O'Reilly's stance from way he pronounced Assange (like a snarky arse hole).UltraHammer said:
And I know science doesn't have all the answers, that's not what I'm saying - I'm saying, his reasoning of, "it doesn't have all the answers, so I'm just going to accept the default option, and nevermind the fact I don't even know other planets have moons," is ridiculous.
Fox News rakes in millions of viewers, and consistently lies to them outright, and then presents itself as a news that is "fair and balanced". It's a fucking insult and a disgrace, and I'm not even American.
fox is only loved by so many people because they sensationalize news and twist it to make them able to be as passionate and intense about every story. they realized that people like it when things are intense extreme or radical, so rather than shift threw news that is at such a degree they blow every story out of proportion and if they need to make up facts they will.