Depends on how they're presented. If it's shoved in your face, no. If it's more an incidental feature of the character and not made a big deal of (as in, you could be forgiven for not noticing for most of the game), then definitely yes.
Don't we all?Pararaptor said:I would fucking love a game with a flamboyantly queer, make-up wearing, lisping, flirting-with-everyone gay protagonist.
Just plain gay protagonists would be fine too, but I want that queen at least once!
just because it's pointed out does not mean it has anything worthwhile to add to the story, i.e., it's gimmicky.Josdeb said:Believe it or not, a character's sexuality comes up a LOT. You probably just don't realise it because you consider it the norm. Here are some games that point out the sexuality of the main charcter(s)constantly throughout and make it the focus of their characterisation:theklng said:it would be gimmicky. why would there be a reason to point out a character's sexuality at all?bruein said:Is there any games that actually have a gay main character? That arn't BL. It seems kind of weird that you see a lot of games about saving the girl so I would think they would change it up to make it more unique or something. Do you think their should me more homosexual characters?
Mario games
Zelda series
Gears of War 2
Bayonetta
Final Fantasy 7, 8, 9, 10, etc
Uncharted
Kingdom Hearts
Max Payne
God of War
Heavy Rain
Just because they're straight doesn't mean that any of the romance/character relations involved doesn't count as "sexuality". So yeah, character sexuality is pointed out A LOT. I say it's time for some to be gay relationships.
Hey man, a swashbuckling Ian McKellen?! I would so play that!Blue-State said:Depends. Are we talking Ross Mathews gay or Sr Ian McKellen gay?
Yeah I was going to make a point how there were very few games that even had anything to do with sexuality but when you think about it most story driven games have atleast hints towards sexuality. Even if it is that you think that your female companion is coming onto you or that the main character has a wife.Josdeb said:Believe it or not, a character's sexuality comes up a LOT. You probably just don't realise it because you consider it the norm. Here are some games that point out the sexuality of the main charcter(s)constantly throughout and make it the focus of their characterisation:theklng said:it would be gimmicky. why would there be a reason to point out a character's sexuality at all?bruein said:Is there any games that actually have a gay main character? That arn't BL. It seems kind of weird that you see a lot of games about saving the girl so I would think they would change it up to make it more unique or something. Do you think their should me more homosexual characters?
Mario games
Zelda series
Gears of War 2
Bayonetta
Final Fantasy 7, 8, 9, 10, etc
Uncharted
Kingdom Hearts
Max Payne
God of War
Heavy Rain
Just because they're straight doesn't mean that any of the romance/character relations involved doesn't count as "sexuality". So yeah, character sexuality is pointed out A LOT. I say it's time for some to be gay relationships.
You're kidding right?theklng said:just because it's pointed out does not mean it has anything worthwhile to add to the story, i.e., it's gimmicky.Josdeb said:Believe it or not, a character's sexuality comes up a LOT. You probably just don't realise it because you consider it the norm. Here are some games that point out the sexuality of the main charcter(s)constantly throughout and make it the focus of their characterisation:theklng said:it would be gimmicky. why would there be a reason to point out a character's sexuality at all?bruein said:Is there any games that actually have a gay main character? That arn't BL. It seems kind of weird that you see a lot of games about saving the girl so I would think they would change it up to make it more unique or something. Do you think their should me more homosexual characters?
Mario games
Zelda series
Gears of War 2
Bayonetta
Final Fantasy 7, 8, 9, 10, etc
Uncharted
Kingdom Hearts
Max Payne
God of War
Heavy Rain
Just because they're straight doesn't mean that any of the romance/character relations involved doesn't count as "sexuality". So yeah, character sexuality is pointed out A LOT. I say it's time for some to be gay relationships.
i'm not kidding, it's like you said: it's all about their love interest. and that's the thing: we don't need to concretize it any more than this. it doesn't matter who the love interest is, because it's not part of the point. the point is what they are doing for said love interest.Josdeb said:You're kidding right?
The only reason Mario trounces through the Muchroom Kingdom is because he wants to save his love interest
The same applies to Link, who is only trying to same his girlfriend
Dom from Gears of War is propelled by the thought of resucing his wife
The source of almost ALL of Bayonetta's humor comes from her outright sexiness
Final Fantasy is almost ALWAYS about protecting the one they love
Uncharted has a romantic sub-plot, so thats a bit gimmicky
The whole point of Kingdom Hearts is to rescue Sora's girlfriend
Max Payne's whole motivation is avenging the death of his wife
As is Kratos'
Heavy Rain's main character is a man, with a wife and children.
So yeah, I would say it isn't gimmicky, I'd say the entire BASIS of the story comes from the character's heterosexual sexuality.
You aren't making sense anymore.theklng said:i'm not kidding, it's like you said: it's all about their love interest. and that's the thing: we don't need to concretize it any more than this. it doesn't matter who the love interest is, because it's not part of the point. the point is what they are doing for said love interest.
so there you have it: it would be gimmicky to change who the love interest is. mario could save a gay guy from a castle and he would still be doing it out of love. i think i just disproved your argument in all possible ways, and in some that are essentially impossible.
Yeah, Gay Tony was a homosexual character who was amusing and likeable enough.SleepyOtter said:The character shouldn't be a walking stereotype but obvious that their gay.
(Gay Tony from GTA:BoGT was good)
no, you misunderstand. i said the LOVE INTEREST was part of the story, not the sexuality. i made up my mind long ago. if you're going to argue, at least get the facts straight.Josdeb said:You aren't making sense anymore.
You literally said that sexuality has nothing "worthwhile to add to the story". Now you're saying that actually, yes, sexuality is the basis of the story. First off, make up your mind?
because it's gimmicky. there is never going to be equality in showing one gender sexuality over another. that's why personally i'd rather see no gender sexuality in games at all than i would see the promotion of any kind of sexuality over another. people should be able to imagine their own gender roles, not be forced upon any. not only that, but i predict that if we ever get a gay protagonist (any gender), they will sell less because people can't relate.Secondly, and I'm quoting you here, "it doesn't matter who the love interest is, because it's not part of the point". So, according to you, changing the gender wouldn't make a difference to the story or game. So why not have Mario save a guy from the castle? If it changes nothing in the game, why not show a bit of equality?
why would you emphasize the fact that he's black? it's a gimmicky move. it's like saying "HEY WE ARE SPECIAL AND DIVERSE AND NOT RACISTS BECAUSE WE FEATURE A PROTAGONIST THAT IS BLACK, NOT BECAUSE OUR GAME IS ACTUALLY ANY GOOD". it removes focus from what matters: the game. he is a man, nothing less, nothing more. you just don't pull the race card unless you're a goddamn racist.Also, here's something to think about: Would it be gimmicky to have a black main character? By your stream of thinking we should completely remove all black characters from games.
When I take part in a debate, argument or anything similar, I like to think that both I and my opponent can remain civil. I certainly hope that this is the case here, because otherwise your accusation of me as a racist is, frankly, insulting. Racism and discrimination are repulsive. No, really. If you have never been discriminated against, at least not in a major sense, then you are lucky. Do you know what it is like to walk down a street afraid to hold hands with your partner for fear of being bashed? Because I do, and I would not want to wish that kind of irrational hatred upon anyone be it because they are gay, black or whatever. Racism is vile, and for you to accuse me of being it makes me sick. Chances are you will now pull back on your accusation, but you and I both know what you implied when you wrote your last reply.theklng said:*snip*