Yeah, I think they win at this point. They could make even harder slam dunks too if they wanted.
Poll: Has Sony already won?
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they still got Nintendo. Gonna be blunt, them giving us features we damn well ought to expect doesn't really make up for the presser being run-of-the-mill until the FFXV unveiling.
More like CAN'Tsoles ;DAssassin Xaero said:
But in all seriousness I think one thing alone shows who OBJECTIVELY won the generation. (yes I know what "objectively" means, you'll see what I mean in a second)
http://www.amazon.com/Thief-4-playstation/dp/B00C27SCC2/ref=pd_bxgy_vg_text_z
Let us review...
Brand new game
Xbox One: $100
Playstation 4: $100
Computer: $50
So before anyone starts yelling "well PS4 is $100 less than XB1"
Let's review the facts
1: PS4 and XB1 both require monthly subscriptions for online multiplayer (+$15/month)
2: Both are selling NEW games for $100 ($100/title)
3: At least one of them REQUIRES an HDTV to be played.
All in all the only way you're really "saving money" with your console purchase is presuming you only buy 6 games throughout the ENTIRE generation. Good luck with that. If you plan to play more than 6 games and you're not dead set on certain exclusives, just buy a PC, it's cheaper, it does more, it's cheaper, it's what you're using to reply to me, it's cheaper, it's constantly evolving rather than remaking, oh and did I mention IT'S CHEAPER?!
(alternatively WiiU is a lovely option if you want to get a console because PC's are too complicated)
I'm rooting for Nintendo. Why does everyone forget about Nintendo when making these polls?
Honestly, they're the only company at this point that still feels like a game company. They are making a console, not some weird always online multi-media platform. That's what I like about them. They have a straightforwardness that the other two lack.
Honestly, they're the only company at this point that still feels like a game company. They are making a console, not some weird always online multi-media platform. That's what I like about them. They have a straightforwardness that the other two lack.
I'm not certain that's really going to be the price of the games. I highly doubt they would up the price of the games $40 like that. The current $60 they are charging seems way more likely. Maybe you're right, but that seems like a place holder to me.WOPR said:
Now I am dissapointed to learn that they are doing monthly subs for online, but frankly I think I can get over it (especially if they do the PSN+ cards in yearly allotments), but where the hell did anyone hear their games will be $100 a peice. That's rediculous and I assume a rumor.
At least with Sony though we can walk into a used game store and buy a game for cheaper.... Bam!
At least with Sony though we can walk into a used game store and buy a game for cheaper.... Bam!
It's a hundred dollars less than the Xbone, doesn't have DRM, and lending/buying used games remains fully intact. They wouldn't have even had to show any games and they still would have won. The games they did show look phenomenal. Plus, they are getting Transistor first (That Game Company's follow-up to Bastion -one of my favourite games ever).
I think it's a bit premature to say at this point. I'll reserve judgment until the things are actually released and we find out how many sheep are willing to fork over their money no matter how much these companies are ready and willing to fuck them over.
To be fair, there was a notice that $100 was not the official price released by the developer. It's only a place holder. That's not to say it won't be that expensive, only that the company hasn't released the official prices yet.WOPR said:
This could be plausible, but considering MS also released Windows 8...rednose1 said:
I'm going to have to go with Hanlon's razor.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
Between MS and Sony, I definitely think Sony is pulling ahead. But Nintendo is still off doing their own thing and they don't really care about Sony and MS's fight. So whoever wins out of those two, they should be able to coexist relatively well with Nintendo(regardless of how well Nintendo does).
That said, Sony is certainly enjoying itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
That said, Sony is certainly enjoying itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
Uhm. The PS4's PSN+ is $5 per month not $15. Get your numbers right mate please your reminding me a bit of baloneyscholars... I mean politicians.WOPR said:
Not only that but as others noted that game price is a placeholder and we havent heard ANYTHING about the PS4 even possibly needing an HDTV to play.
I do apologize, that was rather rude of sir or madam.Charli said:
What about people like OP, who have 12 or so console games, have racked up god knows how many hours in Dragons Dogma and Borderlands, and also has 300+ hours on Torchlight II, and beaten Legend of Grimrock 5 times?
Huh? Where do I fit in on your mold?!
HUH?!
; p
My naive and unfounded belief is that Sony will win launch. WiiU has already had a lackluster launch and even if MS were to suddenly backpedal on some of the more controversial issues, the hostility they've already acquired from the people most likely to buy at launch is still going to hurt them.
After that I have no idea. WiiU sales are already picking up, and I doubt MS is just going to shrug off the idea of being the loser. I guess publishers could also fuck over the PS4 by including the same DRM since they can/will already do that on PC and Xbone...
After that I have no idea. WiiU sales are already picking up, and I doubt MS is just going to shrug off the idea of being the loser. I guess publishers could also fuck over the PS4 by including the same DRM since they can/will already do that on PC and Xbone...
I think it's really telling that less than 8% of people thing XBox1 even has a chance. I suspect there the same 8% of gamers who actually plan to buy one. More telling is the fact that according to this poll more people believe even Nintendo has a better chance than XBox1. Titles alone are not enough to carry a weak console and in this race X box is in last place. PS4 is more powerful, cheaper, and while X Box may have a few decent titles PS4 has the same quality of titles but in larger quantity. I'm not saying that no one will ever buy an XBox1 but I suspect the majority of sales will be from pawnshops and second hand stores when they can get it for under 200 bucks, not right now. Out of the gate X Box is going to suffer in sales, especially if Nintendo cuts the price of the WiiU right before the XBox1 launches, a tactic Nintendo has traditionally used in the past.
None of this of course takes in to account the myriad other issues that plague the XBox1 like the fact that it is not possible to use an XBox1 without some kind of internet. I served in the Gulf of Iraq for almost a year and I can tell you that logging on to the internet every 24 hours is just never going to be possible on a US navy ship unless you're in port and if you're in the Navy or the Marine corp and you're in port you're not playing a video game, your out at a bar trying to get laid. Service men will be buying PS4 and some will buy a WiiU but exactly zero will buy an XBox1 cause they're completely unusable on board ship. XBox1 just has to many problems, to much extra stuff I don't want and didn't ask for, and nothing really likeable. I may buy a PS4 but I will never buy an XBox1.
None of this of course takes in to account the myriad other issues that plague the XBox1 like the fact that it is not possible to use an XBox1 without some kind of internet. I served in the Gulf of Iraq for almost a year and I can tell you that logging on to the internet every 24 hours is just never going to be possible on a US navy ship unless you're in port and if you're in the Navy or the Marine corp and you're in port you're not playing a video game, your out at a bar trying to get laid. Service men will be buying PS4 and some will buy a WiiU but exactly zero will buy an XBox1 cause they're completely unusable on board ship. XBox1 just has to many problems, to much extra stuff I don't want and didn't ask for, and nothing really likeable. I may buy a PS4 but I will never buy an XBox1.
Well.
The Xbox just seems horrible. And theoretically the PS4 should just destroy it. Friendly towards used games, no harassing connection problems...etc. Its like the xbox, without the shit.
However....customers as a whole (especially on consoles I guess) are stupid. Are there smart console gamers? Of course! But it takes so much less knowledge of EVERYTHING to use a console, that their userbase as a whole is a bit dumber than the PC people. I'm saying as a big group, so dont be to offended...I actually resent myself for putting it like this owning a PC, and both xbox360 (now RRODed) and a PS3, but thats how it is. No not everyone owns a console because its easier to set up and use than a PC, no not everyone owns a console because they are not technowizards...but its my guess that a lot do.
And since people are pretty stupid in general, they'll probably buy the xbone too, pushing us even further into the mire of shit that is "licence-gaming".
If there is any justice, the xbone will fail horribly, and the PS4 will fail a bit, since its just a boring PC...but...it wont. The halo/cod kids will buy their xbone and wont even think twice about it unfortunately :<
The Xbox just seems horrible. And theoretically the PS4 should just destroy it. Friendly towards used games, no harassing connection problems...etc. Its like the xbox, without the shit.
However....customers as a whole (especially on consoles I guess) are stupid. Are there smart console gamers? Of course! But it takes so much less knowledge of EVERYTHING to use a console, that their userbase as a whole is a bit dumber than the PC people. I'm saying as a big group, so dont be to offended...I actually resent myself for putting it like this owning a PC, and both xbox360 (now RRODed) and a PS3, but thats how it is. No not everyone owns a console because its easier to set up and use than a PC, no not everyone owns a console because they are not technowizards...but its my guess that a lot do.
And since people are pretty stupid in general, they'll probably buy the xbone too, pushing us even further into the mire of shit that is "licence-gaming".
If there is any justice, the xbone will fail horribly, and the PS4 will fail a bit, since its just a boring PC...but...it wont. The halo/cod kids will buy their xbone and wont even think twice about it unfortunately :<
Really? I didnt know that. I've only played online once on my PS3...so its not exactly a loss for me, but that IS/was one of the selling points of the PS. Huh, I guess I hope that PS4 fails a bit more than before then. I've waited for the death of consoles for a while, but I guess that wont happen at least untill the steambox comes, or the day when cod, halo and final fantasy is long dead and gone.Blue Ranger said:
They've got a leg up, but to declare a "winner" is a bit pre-mature. I'm sure Sony will have decent games, but if, hypothetically, major publishers abandon Sony and work exclusively with Microsoft, then the lack of games will hurt the PS4 immensely. I'm not saying this will happen, I'm merely saying it's a potential scenario. Gamers will go where the games are, and if somehow Microsoft manages to get huge, really excellent exclusives, then it'll win out in the end.
But for now, and for the conceivable future, Sony is in the lead and has the advantage. Microsoft will have to do a lot to regain that advantage. We'll see if they manage to or not.
But for now, and for the conceivable future, Sony is in the lead and has the advantage. Microsoft will have to do a lot to regain that advantage. We'll see if they manage to or not.
Depends on what they have ready for the holidays. The selling power of Nintendo's IPs is legendary, so we'll see how pricing goes down.j-e-f-f-e-r-s said: