Poll: Human Farming?

[Kpt._Rob]

Wasn't there a movie about this? I don't think it ended well.

In all the movies, books, etc... with this theme, the cloned humans are always sentient. The proposition here is that human BODIES would be cloned, but they wouldn't have developed minds. That means they couldn't feel happiness or sadness, or anything at all. Simply put, it's a way to create a lot of organs that could help save people's lives, without having to ask living people to donate their organs, or having to wait for someone to die and taking their organs (the two methods we currently have for getting organs for transplants).

 

[Biek]

This topic reminds me of the movie: The Island. Do cloned humans have rights?

If the church accepts to regard these clones as anything other than abominations. The pro-life/anti-abortion mob is going to very, very busy.

 

[Tireseas_v1legacy]

Well, odd's are, with certain technologies being developed today, we may be able to bypass the whole growing process of a human and just grow the organ itself from cloned cells out of the transplantee's body. It's still in its infancy in Europe and can only make certain heart valves, but it is not a particularlyl long shot that we may end up Xeroxing organs for transplant.

That said, I don't mind the idea of human organ farms, though they would be a pain to pass by certain international laws regarding "human rights."

 

[CIA]

Wasn't there a movie about this? I don't think it ended well.

In all the movies, books, etc... with this theme, the cloned humans are always sentient. The proposition here is that human BODIES would be cloned, but they wouldn't have developed minds. That means they couldn't feel happiness or sadness, or anything at all. Simply put, it's a way to create a lot of organs that could help save people's lives, without having to ask living people to donate their organs, or having to wait for someone to die and taking their organs (the two methods we currently have for getting organs for transplants).

Well... It sounds an awful lot like science fiction and we all know what happens with that. [{www.dresdencodak.com}]

 

[Hawgh]

I'm gonna say all for.

Until, of course, the clones unexpectedly develop sentience, and after a series of attempts to keep them down, rises up against us, led by a charismatic and ruggedly handsome 'clone rights' person.

 

[Herb sewell]

screw using the organs, direct conscience transfers are the way forward 8)
Totally new body.
But I prefer cybernetics... replace weak fleshy parts with beautiful steel...
sorry, I'm doing it again, aren't I?

This is definitely the better option but the other seems more likely to happen.

 

[Lazzi]

Im ok with cloning organs in vats os a green bubbely mystery liqued, not with people.

 

[Katherine Kerensky]

screw using the organs, direct conscience transfers are the way forward 8)
Totally new body.
But I prefer cybernetics... replace weak fleshy parts with beautiful steel...
sorry, I'm doing it again, aren't I?

This is definitely the better option but the other seems more likely to happen.

Direct Conscience Transfers or Cybernetics?
'Cos we already have some pretty good cybernetics... hehehe...

 

[effilctar]

Wasn't there a movie about this? I don't think it ended well.

The Island, I believe it was called. There were people by the namez of Robin 3 Delta and other such nonsense, and when they were needed for harvesting, they won a lottery-like draw and won a "holiday to the Island."

 

[awesomo]

Watch Casshern, those clones will generate consiousness and fuck us up bad. with an army of robots. and swords.

 

[hamster mk 4]

If you can alter a clone's dna to not develop a frontal lobe and consiousness, why not alter the clone to not develop anything but the desired organ?

 

[goatzilla8463]

Wouldn't it just be easier to use stem cells?

 

[titanium turtle]

Do you agree with the idea of human farming? Human farming being where you clone someone, but alter their DNA so that they aren't sentient, and use the clone's juicy organs for transplants. I agree with it on the basis that they are effectively animals and we could save millions of lifes

won't they just have perfected growing individual organs perfectly from scratch by then

 

[Ushario]

Its a rather sticky topic. Personally, I try to avoid the genetics side of science.

I say we build organs rather than grow fully fletched beings. Nano tech. Build organs from the molecules up, getting a custom organ without any moral issues. Will probably take longer to research than effective cloning, but ultimately is morally acceptable.

Your thinking too much into it, all you essentially need is a life support system for the organ and to graft it together. They did something like that with a heart already, but its super expensive. Not that cloning and growing a whole human to adult size wouldn't be.

Overpopulation wouldn't be effected by this at all, it would only be available to the rich.

 

[DarkLordofDevon]

Its a rather sticky topic. Personally, I try to avoid the genetics side of science.

I say we build organs rather than grow fully fletched beings. Nano tech. Build organs from the molecules up, getting a custom organ without any moral issues. Will probably take longer to research than effective cloning, but ultimately is morally acceptable.

Your thinking too much into it, all you essentially need is a life support system for the organ and to graft it together. They did something like that with a heart already, but its super expensive. Not that cloning and growing a whole human to adult size wouldn't be.

Overpopulation wouldn't be effected by this at all, it would only be available to the rich.

Interesting. Still, I do believe nano technology will be valuable asset in the future.

If there was a way to reduce the production costs of this type of thing, this could be a viable option.
Plus there are rejection issues. The advantages of a cloned organ are that there is a 100% acception rate because it contains the same DNA code. Whether you give an organ from another human, or a cybernetic replacement there will always be the risk of rejection issues which can prove fatal.

 

[wilted_orchid]

Wasn't there a movie about this? I don't think it ended well.

The Island, wasn't it? Yeah, somehow I don't think this could ever end well.

 

[SomethingUnrelated]

There was a movie about that kind of thing once, The Island, I believe. I don't agree with it. They'll be living humans, who grow up, and are then killed just to save the life of another. And I mean, even if they don't have a conscience, you'd still feel pretty bad for doing it, wouldn't you?

 

[Ninja_X]

It's unethical no matter how you alter them. Hell,intentionally degrading DNA,be it human or anyone else's is not too ethical in itself.

Why won't we just clone organs outside of body? Sure,it's not as efficent,but it's not as Squicky as well.

I agree with this.

Altering dna to remove sentience does not make them animals, it makes them people you fucked with.

 

[stonethered]

i'm sorry, any sort of farming of a sentient lifeform is wrong.
i would rather die than have someone killed to save me. especially seeing as i die either way. now if we were talking about cloning me and moving my brain into the new body, that's a whole different story.

 

[IAmWright777]

Has anybody read the book House of the Scorpion? (Well the title is something like that) It addresses this topic....