Poll: Mindless hatred for the Xbone?

[shrekfan246]

I guess...you can play Blu-Rays and watch Netflix? But you need a smart TV to play it anyway, all Smart TVs already come equipped with the ability to surf the Internet and watch Netflix and such. And you can get a Blu-Ray player for a hell of a lot less than the x-bone.

Does the entire console require a Smart TV to function, or is that only for the extra TV features? (And not that I don't believe/trust you, but I'd love seeing a source for it too, if just to laugh even more at the ridiculousness of their decisions.)

If the entire console requires a Smart TV, that's even more people they've alienated... I for one only just got an HD TV last year, and it's certainly not a Smart TV (I wouldn't even know what those were if it weren't for people like Jim Sterling bringing them up every so often).

 

[TheCommanders]

For me, the biggest problem is a problem I've had with a lot of games and related services: they're holding features I want behind things they want. Example. Origin. There are a lot of game I really like (like DA:O) that requires you to get an origin account to play it (it used to be an EA account, but it got converted, I believe). As such, EA frequently boasts that millions of people are using and loving origin. No... actually you held the game I bought to ransom until I got an origin account. This does not mean I support origin. Unfortunately, there's no option to add subtext saying you are buying or using something under duress.

Getting back to the point of the thread, I feel like microsoft is doing the same thing. There are some things about it I like/want, like the voice control for, say, netflix, or the nice simple controller, or any of the exclusive titles. But if I buy it, my purchase will not indicate to them that I object to all the many stupid and blatantly anti-consumer policies that are being implemented with it. Instead, it will be used to validate them in the future. And I'm sick and tired of validating things I don't agree with.

 

[Lictor Face]

Hating anti-consumer policies is mindless hate now, really?
I know hate sometimes becomes a trend, but really?

 

[Wolfe M. Howler]

You know, I haven't heard a single "silver lining" from you, either.


To me, the entire Xbone is one mess of anti-consumer ideals, with a Orwellian bow wrapped on top.
I will never get the console, so why exactly should I be trying to find a good point to it?


Regarding the Nazi argument, the V2 rocket system was a mistake made during the middle of the war, only being truly used by the soviets AFTER the war.
A more apt parallel would the debate for the Nazi's horrific experiments on Concentration Camp Prisoners. There were many new discoveries made, but in the end they decided to destroy the paperwork, believing that "It justified the means."

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

So thats it then? The Xbone is COMPLETELY worthless and not worth the metal its made with? Is that the whole point of the possibly hundreds of hate-threads on the internet? That....is disturbing. So far nothing in creation has ever been wholly negative. Even the Nazis, for all the abominations they have done, did contribute to the development of the first space rockets and their deeds formed the basis of the international war crime court.

I just refuse to believe that there is nothing good about it. There is ALWAYS a silver lining regardless how horrible the situation.

I like how you started a thread to discuss rational reasons for not liking a console rather than crucifying it with mindless hyperbole, and then hit Godwin's law yourself, seven posts in.

 

[Reincarnatedwolfgod]

I don't hate the "Xbone". Hate is a strong word and I don't spread hate about it. I just don't like what they're doing with it and I get a bit amused when microsoft say something stupid that digs themselves in a deeper hole PR wise. Some times when they dig themselves deeper hole PR wise I make a comment.

I would rather spend money on getting decent pc. I have been playing on laptop with an intel integrated graphics card for a while and I am able to see the advantage of getting a decent pc that can run games better and actually being able to play certain game on my steam game list that don't work on my computer sounds nice. Even some of the games that work don't run very well.
after I obtain a decent pc then I may get a ps4 at some point. so far I am not convinced getting a xbox one is worth getting though.

 

[Nowhere Man]

You're asking for us to look for the silver lining regarding a putrid product designed from the ground up to rob you of your consumer rights? Not only is making excuses for such a thing detrimental to the gaming industry as a whole, but you never even mentioned any positives yourself.

I can find silver linings in the Wii U's lack of games because we know more are on the way. I can find the positives in the PS4's lack of backwards compatibility because I take solace in the fact that we'll be able to play used games and not need to be permanently tethered to the net to use it. No HAL 9000 spying on me, no restrictions if I want to bring a game to a friends house. etc. I can even find some small positives in how EA is as of late. We are getting Mirrors Edge 2 and Battlefront so SOMEONE there is listening to our requests.

But Xbone. No. That is the thing that should not be. It is the prototype of a draconian future that symbolizes pure greed and control. It is unwise to embrace it. Do not encourage this shit. Do not make excuses for it. There is no game and no reason why anyone should bend themselves over to even give it the time of day. There are no silver linings because that would mean that Microsoft would of provided some feature somewhere that benefited the customer solely with no ulterior motive for themselves. And at this point we all know that these clueless chuckle fucks are truly incapable of even that.

 

[Something Amyss]

You know, I haven't heard a single "silver lining" from you, either.

That's kind of a big thing, too. If you cannot offer actual positives, if your only argument is "stop hating," maybe you should reconsider your stance.

All I've heard so far is "it's not THAT bad." And maybe it's not. But what we should be hearing, especially from Microsoft, is why it's good. And they can't pitch anything good to us, it seems. And the fans can't. So maybe it's time to give up the pretense. Because these folks talking about how it's not that bad aren't really doing more than trying to mitigate the negatives. If there aren't and major upsides...Maybe it IS that bad.

 

[Savagezion]

You know, I haven't heard a single "silver lining" from you, either.

That's kind of a big thing, too. If you cannot offer actual positives, if your only argument is "stop hating," maybe you should reconsider your stance.

All I've heard so far is "it's not THAT bad." And maybe it's not. But what we should be hearing, especially from Microsoft, is why it's good. And they can't pitch anything good to us, it seems. And the fans can't. So maybe it's time to give up the pretense. Because these folks talking about how it's not that bad aren't really doing more than trying to mitigate the negatives. If there aren't and major upsides...Maybe it IS that bad.

Well, according to Microsoft, the silver lining is so awesome we can't comprehend it from a presentation. To truly understand the silver lining, pay $500 and buy one - then it will all make sense. And if it doesn't, meh. Maybe the 360 is better for your backwards thinking ass.

 

[White_Lama]

I don't hate it. I'm going to get it because my friends will and it has the games I want, that's all I care about.

I don't buy used games nor do I trade in my own, and I'm already constantly online as it is.

 

[kingthrall]

I am sick to death of these Xbox hate threads. Your ruining decent threads about actual games. Who seriously cares what console it is, so long as the games are awesome. I just put up this awesome thread about Bungies new game destiny about something that could potentially be huge and all people seem to do is whine and cry about a stupid plastic box.

Dont like it? Dont Freaking buy it, stick with PC like I have done forever and play games for what games are meant to be. If you get so offended by archivements and DLC its a part of the game itself. Then dont buy that game

I feel like I am speaking crazy or something, JEEZ!

 

[Andy Farren]

I don't hate it, mindlessly or otherwise.

I just don't want to buy it.

Snap. I don't particularly want to buy either of the next-gen consoles at this point (sorry Nintendo, you aren't invited to this party), but it's not a placard-waving hatred or anything. I've just looked at the pros and cons, and I'm not sending my cash to Microsoft just yet. Additionally, my main PC is a Mac, and I've put Linux on all my spare machines as well, so I guess I'm trying to live without them these days. I've even got mum using Ubuntu!

Though I am about to send £500+ to Microsoft to do a professional course with them, so I guess my Redmond-karma has all ironed out in the end.

 

[Something Amyss]

Well, according to Microsoft, the silver lining is so awesome we can't comprehend it from a presentation. To truly understand the silver lining, pay $500 and buy one - then it will all make sense. And if it doesn't, meh. Maybe the 360 is better for your backwards thinking ass.

My ass is quite forward thinking, thank you very much. No HINDSIGHT here.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

Well considering the hatred (or indifference) caused MS to pull a 180 with its DRM system I'll say it was successful in its function.

Captcha: WINNING!

 

[Lightknight]

Combination of PS4 offering more and Microsoft fouling things up. As I'm sure others have mentioned, the two are not mutually exclusive. For every one foot Microsoft dug their hole, Sony piled another foot of dirt on top of them.

 

[BloodSquirrel]

However, is no one out there trying to find any bright-spots in this mouldering black hole of a topic?

The important question is "Why would I do such a thing?".

I don't owe the Xbone anything. It's not my daughter who was just broken up with, and needs me to say something nice about it to make it feel better. It's a video game console that Microsoft expects me to buy. If I have to try to find good news about the Xbone then there clearly isn't enough good news about it for me to spend $500 on it.

And, no, I don't really care about the family sharing schemes. I'd rather buy the game and support the developer if I like it anyway. Just let me buy the fucking thing instead of forcing me into an over glorified rental.

 

[FallenMessiah88]

I don't hate the Xbox One, I'm just more interested in what the PS4 has to offer, both in terms of games and in terms of features.