Poll: MW2 PC hate overblown? YES!
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It's not that the PC community wanted suped up extras.DOCTOR DEVICE said:
It's just that we wanted the same treatment we got in Call of Duty 4. If Halo 2, one of the worst console ports ever, could do a dedicated server, why couldn't MW2?
Edit: Actually, we don't even need that. If Infinity Ward said, "Look, we don't have time to develop dedicated servers, but here's the SDK if you want to give it a try", I'd have been happy. If the amount of PC mods are any indication, I'm sure someone could be buggered to make it happen.
I became angry at IW after the game came out. When the modern weapons turned out to be the worst weapons in modern warfare, and the weapons from the nineteenth century were the best. So until they fix the Vector(upgrade), F2000(upgrade), UMP(nurf), Rangers(nurf), Model 1887s(nurf), and Akimbo(delete), I will be playing Forza 3 (and still some MW2 here and there) and waiting for my DLC code for a Bow and Arrow and flint-tipped spear to go apeshit on people, because the older the weapon, the better it is!
Oh, and the MP gameplay is FUBAR from CoD4 and WaW. I like the old style better. Fuck air support, do your own dirty work.
Oh, and the MP gameplay is FUBAR from CoD4 and WaW. I like the old style better. Fuck air support, do your own dirty work.
Oh sure, there are the Counterstrike gems that emerge from the modding, but what about the auto-aim hacks and unlimited ammo and the no barriers ones? It's not just that they open up the SDK, it's that they have to police and shut down hack after hack after hack. It's understandable why they cut it out. I'm sure many games will follow suit. The PC community simply isn't large enough anymore to justify the special treatment at the expense of a lot of money.ParticleBliss said:
Consoles are limited to thier current tech.DOCTOR DEVICE said:
PCs can be continuously upgraded.
Show me a console that can run Crysis as well as a PC can...
I can understand why they're angry.
There is just no comparing IW's system with dedicated servers.
Even on the supposedly great console versions, the lag, host advantage and technical issues make the game unplayable a lot of the time.
I've given it up, it made me rage too much.
I loved the single player campaign though.
They removed dedicated servers, which effectively removed the ability to modify the game and have servers with modes that differ from the original version. So no, PC users are used to having the ability to modify and expand games, and play them to their own tastes. That seems completely reasonable to me, probably because I grew up on PC's. The great thing about PC games is that they can be easily modified, why the hell do you think Half-Life still has a mod community, and Counter-Strike exist? The ability to change an existing game is what makes it worthwhile to be a PC gamer. The problem arises when companies realize that people can still play a 10 year old game, or 17 year old game like Doom 2, and have fun. There's no money in making sequels. It was a douche-bag decision, and I hope to god Carmack rethinks it. At least add the option for dedicated servers which will guarantee decent latency, and allow third party servers that can modify the game. The purists win, the people that want a game that advances over time wins. Money is money.
The game is kind of fun like all the previous CoD games but unfortunately for it I was tired with CoD after the second one, so naturally I didn't buy it.
I had no idea about the dedicated server crap until after it had already been out because I didn't care about the game enough to read any reviews or hate on it.
That aside I can't believe a company took a feature out of a game and then raised the price.
I had no idea about the dedicated server crap until after it had already been out because I didn't care about the game enough to read any reviews or hate on it.
That aside I can't believe a company took a feature out of a game and then raised the price.
First, yes it is. Read these: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/02/24/pc-gaming-market-healthy-shows-signs-of-growth/ (from 2006) and http://kotaku.com/5181379/pc-gaming-market-worth-11-billion-and-other-fun-facts (from 2009. Although I will point out there is a potential bias conflict).DOCTOR DEVICE said:
Second, spend enough time in Mercenary Team Deathmatch, and you'll eventually incur the wrath of a one Chris Hansen. As far as I know, he has at least an aimhack, and I'm guessing a no barrier hack. Hiding the SDK hasn't done anything more than punkbuster would have done for cutting out hackers.
I just hate it, not because I'm a die hard PC enthusiast, but because, really... I don't enjoy playing it.
It bores me.
"Did you remember the map better than that guy?"
"Apparently not..."
I don't care what platform you're on, multiplayer games need dedicated servers or it's just a really painful experience.
Besides, you don't need the SDK to hack, as the super-fucked private-public matches on the Xbox 360 demonstrated.
It bores me.
"Did you remember the map better than that guy?"
"Apparently not..."
Funny thing is, I've played this game exclusivly on the 360 and it was the most painful experience of my life, constant lag, people timing out, hosts leaving and constantly slowing the game down.DOCTOR DEVICE said:
I don't care what platform you're on, multiplayer games need dedicated servers or it's just a really painful experience.
I think you're confusing mods with "hacking", they are two diffrent things.DOCTOR DEVICE said:
Besides, you don't need the SDK to hack, as the super-fucked private-public matches on the Xbox 360 demonstrated.
I have a much easier response to MW2.
1. Don't buy the game.
Or to expand slightly:
1. Don't buy the game
2. Stand back, observe the sparks and froth from the various "controversies", contemplate the angst I've avoided by not having any stake in the product, and enjoy a hearty laugh.
Or to expand slightly more:
This game came out with a greater amount of preceding advertising, spin, hype, and hoopla than many summer movies. It should come as no surprise to anyone that some would see it as failing to living up to the levels of grandeur that it seemed to promise, even if those involved in its creation hadn't made a handful of, shall we say, questionable moves. In parallel, it should come as little surprise that there would be a backlash at a proportion similar to the level of hype generated in the first place.
Seeing as how I'm about four games behind on my game-playing, and even have a number of [other] first-person shooters requesting my attention, I feel a warm glow in the assurance that I am not in any way required to give a rat's ass.
1. Don't buy the game.
Or to expand slightly:
1. Don't buy the game
2. Stand back, observe the sparks and froth from the various "controversies", contemplate the angst I've avoided by not having any stake in the product, and enjoy a hearty laugh.
Or to expand slightly more:
This game came out with a greater amount of preceding advertising, spin, hype, and hoopla than many summer movies. It should come as no surprise to anyone that some would see it as failing to living up to the levels of grandeur that it seemed to promise, even if those involved in its creation hadn't made a handful of, shall we say, questionable moves. In parallel, it should come as little surprise that there would be a backlash at a proportion similar to the level of hype generated in the first place.
Seeing as how I'm about four games behind on my game-playing, and even have a number of [other] first-person shooters requesting my attention, I feel a warm glow in the assurance that I am not in any way required to give a rat's ass.
The game falls flat on one very important aspect. Lan.
I don't care, whether it uses a dedicated server system or distributed hosting, i expect multiplayer shooters to have lan capabilities. Contrary to popular belief, internet is not ubiquitous.
Good thing i never bought it.
I don't care, whether it uses a dedicated server system or distributed hosting, i expect multiplayer shooters to have lan capabilities. Contrary to popular belief, internet is not ubiquitous.
Good thing i never bought it.
Fair enough, but it doesn't explain why the rage should be contained to only the PC community, which I think you said, and I agree.Booze Zombie said:
I just think all systems should support dedicated servers, would solve the problem because even direct console ports would retain a feature PC users are used to having and console players could enjoy servers with 30 people in them.DOCTOR DEVICE said:
Plus, you could actually choose which server you join instead of just being shunted right into a game.
Haha, that pedastal is fun to sit on huh?danpascooch said:
Awesome, at least that dude actually did something about it instead of just bitching on a website or forum.danpascooch said:
But really, how is what you are doing here any different then the people you mention in your rant.
You need a "who gives a shit" option to your poll.
