Poll: MW2 PC hate overblown? YES!

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The fact that they hiked the price right up then made the story 6 hours long doesnt help either
DOCTOR DEVICE said:
PC gamers have been spoiled elitist brats for a long while now. Seems like they all feel they should get the Team Fortress 2 treatment. (Or at least the ones petitioning against this game.)

Fortunately companies seem to be favoring console gaming, which I always felt more immersive anyway with vibration feedback and superior graphics. It's a good shooter, probably (no experience) improved by the mouse and keyboard interface and people should just accept it for what it is: a console port. A near direct one; no privileges are on the consoles that isn't on the PC. They're just complaining they didn't get the extra stuff? Boo-hoo.
We are not complainging we didnt get anything extra, we were complianing that they removed whats been a staple of PC gaming for more than a decade and then charging more for it.

Pc gamers have not been spoiled brats, its console gamers who get (In my opinion) an inferior experiance, and since they are use to it, they see the Pc gamers as whiny pricks when when they should really be trying to get a service at the same level as the PC gets. Free online service, modding community and free DLC just being a few examples
 

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I'm going to say this one last time.
MW2 for console is a good game.It doesn't do anything new,but it's a solid game with good multiplayer and a short,fast paced campaign.

On the PC however,it takes out content that has existed on basically every game with multiplayer,leaving PC gamers with a subpar multiplayer and a disappointingly short single player campaign.
To top that off,they expected PC gamers to pay more money.

My little rate is biased though because I've disliked the CoD franchise since they released CoD3.
CoD1 was a masterpiece,CoD2 was awe inspiring.After that,they just released a new game every year taking elements of the previous title and copying it the new one.
Hell,I'm pretty sure the crosshair is the same since CoD2.

In short,don't talk about things you can't understand,don't try to impose your views on me,and let me be angry at a company whose products repeatedly didn't live up to my expectations.
 

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Dys said:
So basicially, because a minority of PC gamers threw a big tantrum the majority who quietly ignored the game have overreacted?

The modern warfare 2 hate is perfectly justified, it's the sixth call of duty game (not counting expansions) and for some reason morons gobble it up and shower it with awards. It did nothing new, took out features and cost more than previous titles, and the worst part is that people though that this subpar game is somehow the best EVAR!!1

The hate is perfectly justified, I won't apologize for thinking it's a shit game anymore than I would for not liking the fucking Jonas Brothers..
You sir have won the coveted OP ownage post award. Feel free to draw a massive fist on a piece of your own A4 paper.


DOCTOR DEVICE said:
PC gamers have been spoiled elitist brats for a long while now. Seems like they all feel they should get the Team Fortress 2 treatment. (Or at least the ones petitioning against this game.)

Fortunately companies seem to be favoring console gaming, which I always felt more immersive anyway with vibration feedback and superior graphics. It's a good shooter, probably (no experience) improved by the mouse and keyboard interface and people should just accept it for what it is: a console port. A near direct one; no privileges are on the consoles that isn't on the PC. They're just complaining they didn't get the extra stuff? Boo-hoo.
OK.. I know you're new here but I have to let you know that posts like this are generally frowned upon.

Don't flame other platforms and insult your fellow gamers.

Also, I'm a 360 gamer and even I know that consoles don't have better graphics, that's a very misinformed statement.
Also, yes please. Don't come here and start that console V PC crap. These boards are popular with people who know better and who Don't Care.
 

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Sasquatch99 said:
*Face hits wall hard*

Seriously. What is the point of this?
Actually, don't tell me. I thought we had got past all the shit about MW2 and it's problems. But no. Someone had to throw a hissy fit and post a rant against those who don't like which is flamebait tastic.
If you like this game, make a reasonable argument instead of baiting the PC community and making them look like a bunch of elitist *CENSORED* for god's sake. If you can't do that, don't type anything. At all. No wonder some PC gamers think console gamers are morons when stuff like this gets posted. Jesus.

We are still the master race though - aren't we?
 

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Kalezian said:
Dys said:
So basicially, because a minority of PC gamers threw a big tantrum the majority who quietly ignored the game have overreacted?

The modern warfare 2 hate is perfectly justified, it's the sixth call of duty game (not counting expansions) and for some reason morons gobble it up and shower it with awards. It did nothing new, took out features and cost more than previous titles, and the worst part is that people though that this subpar game is somehow the best EVAR!!1

The hate is perfectly justified, I won't apologize for thinking it's a shit game anymore than I would for not liking the fucking Jonas Brothers..
actually, I paid right around $60 USD for it, just like WaW and CoD4.......oh wait, I see what your getting at, your a PC player and your pissed that you had to spend more money for the first time ever.

kinda funny, dont you think?


also, yes, it was overblown, remember the steam group that was made in protest of not having dedicated servers? and then at launch every fucking member was playing MW2? remember how people cried "BAWWWW IZ 2 LAGGY [small] note: this is how pc gamers talk, FACT. [/small] GIEF DEDICATED SURVERS NAO!" and yet there was little to no lag at launch, with the exception if your internet connection didnt suck, as I stated in numerous threads also.

yes, because a small group of PC gamers went fan-boy elitist on people like a majority of FLAC'ers ironically, people thought it was the cool thing to do.


my question; if the game is horrible, why are people still, STILL, playing it?
If Britney Spears is white trash, why do people still worship her? If smoking kills, why do people do it? If George W.Bush is a moron, how come so many people supported him?

Oh wait, no that's a stupid argument, people are stupid and will support whatever has the most persuasive marketing. Note my comparison to the Jonas Brothers, that wasn't a random choice of words, my opinion is that the two are comparable, both popular because of clever marketing.

As for the people playing it on the first day, so what? Only a minority of the people who didn't buy the game felt the need to announce to the world that they were taking part in a pretentious boycott. A page of a steam fan group showing people playing something they claim to be boycotting changes nothing, it's still nothing special. Not to mention how these people are obvious fans of the serious, caring enough to petition the developers to change it...

Little to no lag at launch? Of course not, except, y'know, for the majority of consumers who don't happen to live in the U.S.A. You see, this is why people get so pissed off with Americans, just because one system is appropriate for you guys doesn't mean it is for the rest of the world. I live in Australia, and I don't pretend to be a part of any pretentious boycott, I never bought modern warfare 2 but a few of my friends did. I've played the game a fair bit, and like every other matchmaking system I've used, it's terrible. GFWL failed for this exact reason, I'm not supporting a poor system tacked onto a mediocre game because it's a part of a familiar franchise, I'm sorry. Different platforms have different requirements, just because matchmaking is the best and most appropriate option for the consoles doesn't make it so for computers (I'll skim past the 'not all computers are born equal rant and just assume that you're intelligent enough to see what it's not the same). Oh, here's another fun addition to my argument, one of my friends who has it, hasit on PS3 and before it was patched it was unplayable due to lag, instores the game costs $110au here, kinda pricy for something that doesn't work (it does work flawlessly now, since the patch he has been able to play fine). In essence, this game is far superior on consoles than it is on PC (though as I pointed out, on release it was equally shit on at least the PS3), because the PC was a 'dumb' port that wasn't in any way optimized for the platform. If you can't be fucked releasing a game on a platform, don't. I really won't hold it against you, but it's bullshit to drop the standard of games while bumping up the price, I understand that it's an easy way to make a quick buck, but it makes you an asshole.

The game on Steam costs $90. That's the cost of it online, steam is typcially cheaper than boxed copies in Australia. I recently bought myself a new copy of the collectors edition of Demon's Souls (unfortunately it's not available anymore, however here is a linkto the base copy on playasia, as you can see it's about $71au). As you can see, a game on bluray costs $20 less, $15 after you account for postage. A few months ago, a game called brutal legend came out, I bought that on my xbox 360 (Yeah, I have all current gen consoles, assuming I'm a PC fanboy makes you look a little stupid at this point) and it cost $75 new on release from a local electronics store. Point is, I'm happy to pay the going rate for games, but not above average price for a sequal to a well established PC franchize that has been developed exclusively for consoles and ported to the PC at the last second.

***** and moan all you want about PC games being cheaper than PS3 and Xbox 360 titles, but bear in mind the dics (especially blu rays) are not cheap, and that you wouldn't pay the same for a game release on PS2 as you would for the same game on PS3 (all the guitar hero games cost less on wii and PS2, where are all the people bitching about PC games being cheaper everytime one is released?).

Again, to reiterate, I will not apologize for thinking a subpar game is shit, and I'll hate it as much as I feel appropriate. I never said it was the worst thing to happen to gaming. Swine flu wasn't the worst thing to happen to humanity yet I still hate that, just because worse things have existed doesn't suddenly make it less susceptable to my hate. The game is a peice of shit and the hate it gets (largely due to it's immense success despite it's beyond mediocre gameplay) is 100% justified. It honestly shits me how all the console only gamers sit there smugly while what is a shared hobby between platforms gets cheapened by this shit, PC gamers are worried that this will lead to paid subscriptions for all FPS multiplayers, why the fuck would you think consoles are immune to this trend if it begins on the PC?
 

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DOCTOR DEVICE said:
PC gamers have been spoiled elitist brats for a long while now. Seems like they all feel they should get the Team Fortress 2 treatment. (Or at least the ones petitioning against this game.)

Fortunately companies seem to be favoring console gaming, which I always felt more immersive anyway with vibration feedback and
superior graphics. It's a good shooter, probably (no experience) improved by the mouse and keyboard interface and people should just accept it for what it is: a console port. A near direct one; no privileges are on the consoles that isn't on the PC. They're just complaining they didn't get the extra stuff? Boo-hoo.
Obvious troll is obvious.

OT: Meh, enjoyed MW2 for a little more than a month, got new computer, tested CoD 4 and realized why I loved it in the first place i.e. everything in the game is golden. Not saying MW2 is a bad game, it's just a lousy PC game. Though I can understand why IW don't give a flying fuck about us since in their eyes we are all pirating scums[footnote]All hails Valve![/footnote]. But that is not an excuse to rip everything that was excellent in the first game, that will say, excellent maps, excellent guiding system and excellent guns. (Why the fuck didn't they add the fucking Dragunov, it was skinned ready and looked amazing! Why?!)

No Dragunov, No M1911, No fun.
 
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danpascooch said:
All of the PC users who HATE MW2 WITH A PASSION! Just because of some of Infinity Ward's new policies are (in my opinion) mostly whiny douchebags with a ridiculous ability to hold a grudge. Yes they made you pay ten dollars more, yes they dropped dedicated servers, yes both of those things suck, yes you should be angry.

No you should not be THIS angry, and no you should not think the game is the "biggest fail of an FPS ever!" or that Infinity Ward is "The worst company EVER!"

Here's what you do:
1.) See what they did to PC users
2.) Get pissed
3.) After a couple of days or a week or two admit that it is overall a good game
4.) After a couple of days or a week or two admit that the company has *some* merits
5.) let rage simmer down to annoyance
6.) Buy or don't buy future IW products based on level of annoyance
7.) In extremely angry cases maybe write a letter or something

Here's what you DON'T do:
1.) See what they did to PC users
2.) Get pissed
3.) Get more pissed
4.) Throw a fucking tantrum
5.) Make a website called ModernWarFAIL.com (seriously, how fucking immature is this?)
6.) Use website to engage in a massively overblown "gamers scorned" smear campaign
7.) Call it the "worst FPS in history!!1!1" (A lot of people)
8.) Call Infinity Ward the "worst company in history!!1!1" (a lot of people)
9.) Make a petition (MWfail.com)
10.) Make another petition (MWfail.com)
11.) Send a $60 check to a rival company (some crazy dude)
12.) Spam their forums in an attempt to create disorder (MWfail.com)
13.) Try to create cheats and hacks to prove the game is unstable and sucks (MWfail.com)
14.) Throw another bigger fucking tantrum
15.) Never give up your uncontrollable rage, and call everything related to IW the worst thing ever, forever, with no regard to the actual quality of the product in question.
So you thought you'd help use all my bringing this back into public knowledge and dredging up the hate again bravo you idiot, flame baiting annoyance. Bravo you deserve a clap.


More on topic yes a lot of the hate is deserved because IW fucked over the people who bought the game whe nthe franchise started and no it is not elitist for wanting something that has been there in all PC games since the begining.

EG.1) What if Sony decided to charge for all online services would it be fair to ***** and moan about since you have always had everything free online?

EG.2) Would it be ok to complain if Microsoft decided to up it's online sub price by a $/euro/whatever15 a year?

EG.3) Would it be ok to complain if Nintendo released a patch making all normal Wii controllers useless and forcing people to the Wii+?

To answer all those for you yes it would be ok to complain that is why pc gamers were complaining. Price hike we could live take away dedicated servers, console commands, mods and lean and you start to take the piss as it took more effort and cost them more money to do these than if they had left them in. Since I was a paying customer of IW yes I have rights and as a person helping to keep them in business I want value for what I pay for. I'm not paying 60 euro of my money for a good but not amazing single player with a half done online from a game ported from a console.

imahobbit4062 said:
People bitching because they are getting the same treatment as everyone else, then they ***** about the length of the campaign which was the same length as the one they loved.
People are idiots, learn this.
Just to make this clear you know Counter Strike that was a mod so yes we are allowed to complain about losing what we have had since day one of PC gaming this is the point that some people don't seem to get. I don't see why console players don't complain about not having dedicated servers as the system is far superior to P2P and actually prevents pirating.

DOCTOR DEVICE said:
PC gamers have been spoiled elitist brats for a long while now. Seems like they all feel they should get the Team Fortress 2 treatment. (Or at least the ones petitioning against this game.)

Fortunately companies seem to be favoring console gaming, which I always felt more immersive anyway with vibration feedback and superior graphics. It's a good shooter, probably (no experience) improved by the mouse and keyboard interface and people should just accept it for what it is: a console port. A near direct one; no privileges are on the consoles that isn't on the PC. They're just complaining they didn't get the extra stuff? Boo-hoo.
Ok I can you are new here so let me say this make sure you know what you are talking about before you post. Pc gamers are not spoiled elitist brtas that is like me saying that all console players are idiots who scream down mics and are all under the age of 12. For fuck sake with the people going on about extra things nearly everything that is extra is online on the PC because consoles are stripped down PC how can't handle what a PC can. Even though lean could be on consoles.

To sum up what I think about it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and because of that people are entitled to think it is shit or the second coming of Jesus but stop making stupid threads about it that are flamebait. If you don't understand the issue or the limiations of your platform you shouldn't post in such threads so audaciously with such zeal that make you look worse than the PC gamers who signed this petition.
 

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The only bad points for me are the lack of dedicated servers (a problem for almost every PC gamer on MW2) and no coop campaign/zombie mode (which in all fairness isn't that bad as we do have spec ops mode)

so I chose the last option as a middle ground
 

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I wouldn't call Modern Warfare 2 shit, but it wasn't really anything special. The removal of dedicated servers was simply bullshit, and Infinity Ward really screwed over the PC gamers, but the whole thing isn't worth shitting a brick over.

Was the game innovative? Certainly not. Was it a fresh steamy pile of feces? No. But herein lies the issue I take. If game developers can just repackage things they've already done, hype it till their faces turn blue, add some controversy (No Russian my ass. I've seen worse.), and end up pulling in $550,000,000 in the first 5 days, there would be no reason for anyone to bother actually making a decent game.

Also, someone said something about owning all the current gen consoles and a gaming PC? If you have a 360/PS3, why buy the PC version of MW2 when you know the lack of dedicated servers is gonna piss you off?

I suppose I'm a bit ambivalent here. Infinity Ward needed to be criticized, but the shitstorm need not have happened. All I can say is that CoD 7 had better be Vietnam based.
 

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crepesack said:
HAHAHA...Well anyways, I was two inches away from purchasing MW2 on my pc...literally, I decided not to because to be honest i don't like the feel of the mouse. But anyways. I agree mw2 did NOT live up to expectations, I've been following the series since cod 2. And it got better until cod 4 then just plateaued.

For everyone saying that they should stop the series...how about a big fuck no? For one, it's not even a SERIES as one would have it. For one there have been only two installments in an actual original plot so far mw1 and mw2, and secondly the other 3 games were all historical based... not really series as it was just a large player in a particular genre, ww2 fps.

They dropped the ball on mw2, i agree, for everyone, crap servers, glitches, and terrible hosting...it's not unplayable, it's just not as fun as the previous games...I can tell...mainly because I just HATE hardcore search and destroy now, when it used to be my favorite game type.

Thermal made life for everyone too easy, weapon accuracy is ridonkulous the fact that i can't have Ninja AND sitrep neuters your ability on offense as well. either A: get murked by someone with heartbeat or B: raped by explosives lying everywhere.... They basically made stealth in HCSD impossible.
urm...thermal isn't all that...try cold blooded my friend =) its for perk 2 =) and i find the stealth to be ok, not the best, i can easily sneak around and kill 5 people with a knife, while been where the enemy is =)
Drop in fire power is too great for normal matches, And uhh that's all I use for hardcore perk 2...Yah i know i've been playing the game since 2001, not an idiot. Thermal just took the skil out of sniping. Seriously all you have to do is scroll across the screen til you sa bright white mass.
 

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Dys said:
So basicially, because a minority of PC gamers threw a big tantrum the majority who quietly ignored the game have overreacted?

The modern warfare 2 hate is perfectly justified, it's the sixth call of duty game (not counting expansions) and for some reason morons gobble it up and shower it with awards. It did nothing new, took out features and cost more than previous titles, and the worst part is that people though that this subpar game is somehow the best EVAR!!1

The hate is perfectly justified, I won't apologize for thinking it's a shit game anymore than I would for not liking the fucking Jonas Brothers..
And let's not forget that smug jackass kotick and how its success serves only to bolster his horrible business policies.
 

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As someone who is primarily a console gamer, I think PC gamers have every right to be disappointed with how much Modern Warfare 2 was downgraded over the original.

There was absolutely no reason for it. Modern Warfare 1 had maps large enough for 32vs32 player matches, people could host their own servers (which they would do, which would in the end save IW loads of $), and stopping mod support on MW2? something that PC games have had since the 90's? wtf

This is just a case of Infinity Ward pleasing the butthurt console fanboys who always got the lesser versions of games.

DOCTOR DEVICE said:
PC gamers have been spoiled elitist brats for a long while now. Seems like they all feel they should get the Team Fortress 2 treatment. (Or at least the ones petitioning against this game.)

Fortunately companies seem to be favoring console gaming, which I always felt more immersive anyway with vibration feedback and superior graphics. It's a good shooter, probably (no experience) improved by the mouse and keyboard interface and people should just accept it for what it is: a console port. A near direct one; no privileges are on the consoles that isn't on the PC. They're just complaining they didn't get the extra stuff? Boo-hoo.
Case and point ^^^^

P.S. Consoles have superior graphics? what world have you been living in?
 

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Sasquatch99 said:
*Face hits wall hard*

Seriously. What is the point of this?
Actually, don't tell me. I thought we had got past all the shit about MW2 and it's problems. But no. Someone had to throw a hissy fit and post a rant against those who don't like which is flamebait tastic.
If you like this game, make a reasonable argument instead of baiting the PC community and making them look like a bunch of elitist *CENSORED* for god's sake. If you can't do that, don't type anything. At all. No wonder some PC gamers think console gamers are morons when stuff like this gets posted. Jesus.
Let it go Sass.

It's Chinatown.
 

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FanofDeath said:
I'd say this fellow is quite familiar with the internet. After all, we all know how kicking and screaming online makes everything bettar.
You have a point. If people's kicking and screaming are annoying you, then I guess the appropriate solution would be to kick and scream about it?
 

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miracleofsound said:
danpascooch said:
Here's what you do:
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Here's what you DON'T do:
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So, you think PC gamers are being douchebags with regards to thier anger... fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion.

What you do:

1. Maybe empathise
2. Laugh it off,
3. Enjoy the game and leave them to thier rage


What you don't do:

1. Throw a tantrum
2. Start a thread bitching at them, as it will start a flame war
I am voicing my opinion, this once, not drawing it out forever, and not starting a caps lock exclamation filled hate message, I respectfully disagree.
 

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quiet_samurai said:
danpascooch said:
5.) Make a website called ModernWarFAIL.com (seriously, how fucking immature is this?)
Haha, that pedastal is fun to sit on huh?

danpascooch said:
11.) Send a $60 check to a rival company (some crazy dude)
Awesome, at least that dude actually did something about it instead of just bitching on a website or forum.


But really, how is what you are doing here any different then the people you mention in your rant.


You need a "who gives a shit" option to your poll.
Good idea, I will add a "who gives a shit" option.

Also, the pedestal is made of cast iron, and very cold.

But the reason I feel like what I am doing is different is because I am not throwing money to fans of Modern Warfare two (like that guy did with Treyarch) I am not making multiple threads like this or a whole website or petition dedicated to my cause, I am just voicing my opinion by making this thread ONE TIME and then I will be done.
 

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doesn't matter if he likes MW2, the reaction PC a$$holes made was ridiculous and immature. he's got every right to make fun of them with his poll and thread
 

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Donnyp said:
danpascooch said:
Here's what you do:
3.) After a couple of days or a week or two admit that it is overall a good game

Here's what you DON'T do:
5.) Make a website called ModernWarFAIL.com (seriously, how fucking immature is this?)
9.) Make a petition (MWfail.com)
10.) Make another petition (MWfail.com)
11.) Send a $60 check to a rival company (some crazy dude)
3.) What if we think its not even a mediocre game? I don't plan to buy it period but not because of the pc rage but because it doesn't look fun as everyone makes it out to be.
5.) That was awesome lol. Whoever spent the money on that should receive a High 5. Out of hate he made a website costing him probably more money then the game in the end.
9.) Lol like they say. If you want to try changing something start an internet petition they always work
10.) See 9.)
11.)Doing this is the opposite of good. If you don't like it don't buy it. Rather then being a twat and doing something stupid like this just don't buy it. Worse case scenario you pirate it for the single player. But sending money to someone else for not making a shitty choice is like me sending money to someone because they didn't wipe out on there motorbike and survived the crash with minor injuries lol. I know it sounds messed but i like it.

As i stated i won't be getting it. Might borrow off a friend but won't get it. Also when i read all the Independent servers and Blah blah blah stuff i reacted the same way i always do when something i have no power over happens. go to sleep.
I don't think it's wrong at all to not like the game, to each his own.

I just think getting morally outraged enough to start a website based around a smear campaign is utterly ridiculous.

And I couldn't agree with you more, internet petitions ALWAYS work, ALWAYS.
 

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qbanknight said:
doesn't matter if he likes MW2, the reaction PC a$$holes made was ridiculous and immature. he's got every right to make fun of them with his poll and thread
Someone who doesn't want to bash my skull in :)

Thank you