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Shivhappy said:
The only thing that should have come out of her mouth was "Thanks for the ride." or "Need any gas money"-Period. Beggars cant be choosers. Hopefully she learned a lesson in gratitude.
People should be able to voice a harmless opinion without fear of someone getting their panties in a twist. If he was that offended, he should have told her so. However, ditching her on the street after promising to give her a ride, simply because of a few remarks which she probably never fathomed would be taken so personally, is not acceptable to me. Clearly you disagree, and as a result we will never be friends. I can deal with this.
 

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manic_depressive13 said:
Shivhappy said:
The only thing that should have come out of her mouth was "Thanks for the ride." or "Need any gas money"-Period. Beggars cant be choosers. Hopefully she learned a lesson in gratitude.
People should be able to voice a harmless opinion without fear of someone getting their panties in a twist. If he was that offended, he should have told her so. However, ditching her on the street after promising to give her a ride, simply because of a few remarks which she probably never fathomed would be taken so personally, is not acceptable to me. Clearly you disagree, and as a result we will never be friends. I can deal with this.
Your definition of 'harmless' must vary from mine and most people on this thread. Being continually insulted while doing someone a favor is unacceptable.
 

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I would have said something before kicking her out. Something like "Would you like to walk then?" I mean, you're justified kicking people out of your car, especially if there really have been 8 people have been idiots.
 

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Your definition of 'harmless' must vary from mine and most people on this thread. Being continually insulted while doing someone a favor is unacceptable.
No, your definition of 'insult' is clearly different from mine, because someone pointing out that a crappy car is crappy isn't something a rational person would take offense to. The OP may claim she was saying "I deserve better", but as far as I can tell from the examples he gave, she was just saying "you need a new car". That is not a personal insult.

But regardless of any of that, suddenly telling someone to "get the fuck out" with no warning whatsoever is inordinately aggressive for something so petty. Anyway, I don't care anymore. Your lack of perspective is not my concern.
 

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manic_depressive13 said:
Shivhappy said:
Your definition of 'harmless' must vary from mine and most people on this thread. Being continually insulted while doing someone a favor is unacceptable.
No, your definition of 'insult' is clearly different from mine, because someone pointing out that a crappy car is crappy isn't something a rational person would take offense to. The OP may claim she was saying "I deserve better", but as far as I can tell from the examples he gave, she was just saying "you need a new car". That is not a personal insult.

But regardless of any of that, suddenly telling someone to "get the fuck out" with no warning whatsoever is inordinately aggressive for something so petty. Anyway, I don't care anymore. Your lack of perspective is not my concern.
"Lack of perspective"? I think not, i've been on both sides of the coin, driving 45mins out of my way to pick up a co-worker for weeks at a time. Did they complain about anything?-no, they thanked me, offered me gas money from time to time, bought me lunch as a show of gratitude as normal people do. I also borrowed my friends beat up Tercel, (which he dubbed the Ter-smell because of the moldy smell) it had one seat was filled with boxes of old car parts, and ran on three cylinders, when i had to have my transmission replaced. So did i complain?-of course not, i bought him a six-pack of his favorite brew, filled the car with gas and thanked him for helping me.

In that situation i may not have used the phrase "get the fuck out" but my meaning would have been the same.
 

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Honestly if someone (within reasons) given me a lift to work I wouldn't complain about the car condition. I mean it's rude to say that to someone who is helping you for free.
While yes you may have gotten her fired for kicking her out but the way I see it if she did get fired then it's karma. That her punishment for her rude remark so in another words, what come around come around.
 

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Erana said:
shitoutonme said:
Another thing was that she upset me at a bad time. I had a heated argument with my English teacher that morning about how her grading methods are unfair and stupid (as far as I'm concerned, they're retarded), and since I felt wronged, I was more or less discontent and irritable the entire day. It's possible that I might not have reacted in such a manner to that girl's quips if I was in a better mood that day, but like I said, I've been meaning to kick someone out of my car for complaining.

On the other hand, her losing her job would be quite the lesson in appreciation and gratitude. Just sayin'.
So, you were already upset, and then you antagonize the next person to upset you?
And now you go and make a thread on a forum trying to get people to justify what you've done?
I'm sorry. I "antagonized" the next person to upset me? WTF? How the heck did I antagonize her? Clarify please.
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What you have here is a guilty conscience.
No.
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Yes, it is rude for her to have pointed out the flaws of your car, but its just as rude to take out your frustration with your English teacher and other life problems on this girl.
At least, that's how you feel deep down, or you wouldn't have made this thread. People don't just make threads like this unless they want approval for their actions, and you yourself have voiced doubt on the matter.
Lol I'm sorry, but the amount of presumption behind your words made me laugh out loud. Perhaps it's not even presumption but rather you misreading my post that has caused you to come to this conclusion. Allow me to break it down for you:

1. If you took my entire post into consideration, you would know that I've been meaning to kick a complainer out of my car for the longest time. I mentioned this twice. Sure, the extra frustration might have further encouraged me to do it, but that act was already part of the plan. At most, it was only a partial motivator.

2. Remember that one statement? "And I suggest my fellow guys around the world to take up the same stance." Does that sentence suggest I need validation? I already gave it to myself. Perhaps the last person who was the OP of a similar thread needed a pat on the back for this, but I assure you, I don't. Again, I say, "Bitches can walk to work."

3. Apologies? No, thanks. Perhaps you feel you were guilty of treating someone a certain way due to your emotional state, but me - not so much.

manic_depressive13 said:
No, your definition of 'insult' is clearly different from mine, because someone pointing out that a crappy car is crappy isn't something a rational person would take offense to. The OP may claim she was saying "I deserve better", but as far as I can tell from the examples he gave, she was just saying "you need a new car". That is not a personal insult.
Here's something you fail to take into consideration: tone of voice. Had this girl been cracking jokes,I wouldn't mind, because plenty of people do that. Hell, even I do, but the way in which her comments were said made all the difference.

And say what? "You need a new car"? I disagree, but had she said those exact words with that smug, spiteful tone she was speaking with the other day, I would have said, "A new car? Fuck you, *****. Pay me! This ain't a charity ride. Give me the money for that new whip! I'm helping your no-car-having broke ass get someplace." And then, of course, kick her out once we reach a stop light or sign.
 

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shitoutonme said:
Erana said:
shitoutonme said:
Another thing was that she upset me at a bad time. I had a heated argument with my English teacher that morning about how her grading methods are unfair and stupid (as far as I'm concerned, they're retarded), and since I felt wronged, I was more or less discontent and irritable the entire day. It's possible that I might not have reacted in such a manner to that girl's quips if I was in a better mood that day, but like I said, I've been meaning to kick someone out of my car for complaining.

On the other hand, her losing her job would be quite the lesson in appreciation and gratitude. Just sayin'.
So, you were already upset, and then you antagonize the next person to upset you?
And now you go and make a thread on a forum trying to get people to justify what you've done?
I'm sorry. I "antagonized" the next person to upset me? WTF? How the heck did I antagonize her? Clarify please.
Erana said:
What you have here is a guilty conscience.
No.
Erana said:
Yes, it is rude for her to have pointed out the flaws of your car, but its just as rude to take out your frustration with your English teacher and other life problems on this girl.
At least, that's how you feel deep down, or you wouldn't have made this thread. People don't just make threads like this unless they want approval for their actions, and you yourself have voiced doubt on the matter.
Lol I'm sorry, but the amount of presumption behind your words made me laugh out loud. Perhaps it's not even presumption but rather you misreading my post that has caused you to come to this conclusion. Allow me to break it down for you:

1. If you took my entire post into consideration, you would know that I've been meaning to kick a complainer out of my car for the longest time. I mentioned this twice. Sure, the extra frustration might have further encouraged me to do it, but that act was already part of the plan. At most, it was only a partial motivator.

2. Remember that one statement? "And I suggest my fellow guys around the world to take up the same stance." Does that sentence suggest I need validation? I already gave it to myself. Perhaps the last person who was the OP of a similar thread needed a pat on the back for this, but I assure you, I don't. Again, I say, "Bitches can walk to work."

3. Apologies? No, thanks. Perhaps you feel you were guilty of treating someone a certain way due to your emotional state, but me - not so much.

manic_depressive13 said:
No, your definition of 'insult' is clearly different from mine, because someone pointing out that a crappy car is crappy isn't something a rational person would take offense to. The OP may claim she was saying "I deserve better", but as far as I can tell from the examples he gave, she was just saying "you need a new car". That is not a personal insult.
Here's something you fail to take into consideration: tone of voice. Had this girl been cracking jokes,I wouldn't mind, because plenty of people do that. Hell, even I do, but the way in which her comments were said made all the difference.

And say what? "You need a new car"? I disagree, but had she said those exact words with that smug, spiteful tone she was speaking with the other day, I would have said, "A new car? Fuck you, *****. Pay me! This ain't a charity ride. Give me the money for that new whip! I'm helping your no-car-having broke ass get someplace." And then, of course, kick her out once we reach a stop light or sign.

OK, if you felt perfectly good about what you did, you wouldn't have to go making a thread on the internet straight up asking for people to justify your behavior. The fact that you say that other people should behave as you do doesn't change the fact that You made a thread poll where the only options are to say that your behavior is either a little too much, or completely justified.

More to the point, kicking someone out of a vehicle without notice over commenting about the state of a car is not something emotionally stable people do.
And their lack of a reaction isn't because they're weak or a doormat, its because they don't care.
And if they feel that the person who is insulting their car needs to be taught a lesson, they simply refuse to give them simple favors in the future.

Gotta also point out that you have been planning to throw someone out of your car without warning for a while now. That alone should throw up flags for you being a bit over reactive. Why should one person, regardless of why they said something you took as off color, have to pay for all your little pent up grievances?
And just because you were doing her a favor doesn't mean that you have complete social privilege to do whatever you want. You said you'd give her a ride, so be a man and live up to your word.

You're waaaaaay too sensitive about your car, and your actions are extremely drastic. There is something making you this way, probably personal issues or teenage hormones or sleep deprivation or something like that.
My point being is that you're trusting your emotions too much. Just because it seems like someone's being a horrible terrible person doesn't mean that they are nearly as bad as you're thinking, or even harbor any malicious intent at all.

"I felt wronged" is one of the worst motivations to act upon in human history.
 

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my air conditioning doesnt work so when people tell me about it I always just say thats why i got a car without power windows (which also bothers people. and I dont have power locks either, which people think is weird and act like someone is going to jump in and steal the car. just push the little peg down, it doesnt unlock fromt he outside without a key (to my knowledge at least)). And i dont have a CD player (I need to get on getting a stereo system for my car so i can listen to my CDs).

besides, its a 99 Ford escort with just over 80K miles and i got it for about 1800 after transfer fees. you cant really beat that.

anyway, OT, people lose me when they start bitching about how something isnt canon or part of a series (see the highlander movies, the star wars prequels, recently in the wing commander <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/112888-New-Wing-Commander-Rumors-Start-to-Swirl>article here about prophecy). i always think its just a wonder of the world that people can be so delusional to fact in the world.
 

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shitoutonme said:
who want to be seen riding around in a luxury car sitting on 22's.
Totally off topic, but could you explain what 22's are? Because every time I hear it, I immediately think of rifles, and I'm pretty sure that's not what you mean.
 
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I can see how some one could do that if they were in a bad mood. Don't feel guilty about it, she was in the wrong, but it wasn't the best way to handle the situation.

PS; I dunno why you get sh*t about your car, over here 90's Honda Civics are quite popular.
 

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While I wouldn't have done, I certainly don't condemn it. When you give her a lift as a favour and then she continually insults your car... she was kinda asking for it. Returning favours seems to be a lost idea these days...
 

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Erana said:
OK, if you felt perfectly good about what you did, you wouldn't have to go making a thread on the internet straight up asking for people to justify your behavior. The fact that you say that other people should behave as you do doesn't change the fact that You made a thread poll where the only options are to say that your behavior is either a little too much, or completely justified.
Ohhhh. Well, at least I now know what you were getting at. No, the poll is simply to bait people, if you will. Since you're a regular member of The Escapist, I have little doubt that you know that threads with polls are a little more popular than those without; the fact that there are plenty of awesome discussion topics in which people post something along the lines of "A poll would be nice" supports this. When I make a topic, I'd rather it not go dead within 24 hours; it makes me feel like I actually had something interesting to say. So yeah, it's more about being an attention whore than asking for validation, but I can't knock you for thinking I was looking for some. However, the question put forth in the poll was simply for discussion's sake.
Erana said:
More to the point, kicking someone out of a vehicle without notice over commenting about the state of a car is not something emotionally stable people do.
So? Do I get points if I tell you I did it in a calm manner?
Erana said:
And their lack of a reaction isn't because they're weak or a doormat, its because they don't care.
And if they feel that the person who is insulting their car needs to be taught a lesson, they simply refuse to give them simple favors in the future.
That first part may be true for some, but from what I've seen, the reason most people don't voice their discontent is because they're afraid to. Kudos to the ones that don't care though, and as far as punishment is concerned, I disagree. Swift justice is my preference, especially in this case. Why? Because that person may very well never need that ride again.
Erana said:
Gotta also point out that you have been planning to throw someone out of your car without warning for a while now. That alone should throw up flags for you being a bit over reactive. Why should one person, regardless of why they said something you took as off color, have to pay for all your little pent up grievances?
Well, since you were kind and open enough to share your personal experience in your previous post, I'll be straight with you; I've been a doormat for a large chunk of my life. In fact, it's only been 2 years since I experienced an epiphany of sorts that turned me into the type of guy that takes no shit, unless money is involved. Suffice it to say that what happened back then hurt me deeply, and I must admit, past grievances have much to do with who I am today. But guess what? I don't give a shit. Actions have consequences, and people shouldn't be so quick to insult someone they don't know well. The girl I kicked out of my car failed to be considerate and thoughtful of those 2 things and suffered for her actions. Oh, yeah, you could say that I may suffer for doing that to her; for all I know, she's rallying her big brothers to pay me a visit soon. Whatever. I carry a weapon of some sort at all times, since I'm slightly paranoid. They can come see me. I'm not apologizing for teaching a hard lesson.
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And just because you were doing her a favor doesn't mean that you have complete social privilege to do whatever you want. You said you'd give her a ride, so be a man and live up to your word.
I applaud your sense of chivalry and honor, but you can keep your brand of "manliness" to yourself. I'll decide for myself what's manly for me to do, and kicking that ***** out of my car was manly as far as I'm concerned.
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You're waaaaaay too sensitive about your car, and your actions are extremely drastic. There is something making you this way, probably personal issues or teenage hormones or sleep deprivation or something like that.
See second to last paragraph above.
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My point being is that you're trusting your emotions too much. Just because it seems like someone's being a horrible terrible person doesn't mean that they are nearly as bad as you're thinking, or even harbor any malicious intent at all.
True, but that's not really my concern. I, myself, try my best not to come off as insulting while interacting with people, unless, of course, I'm reacting to someone insulting me. If most people tried doing the same, there'd be a lot less trouble to go around, but yeah, sometimes people will take offense regardless. Oh well. It is what it is.
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"I felt wronged" is one of the worst motivations to act upon in human history.
Heh, I'm sure the large congregation of atheist on this site would disagree with you, but you have a point. Of course, my answer is simple: I don't give a shit. I'd rather live a life with a few conflicts, scrapes, and bruises and be able to walk with my head high than let people push me around and walk over me. Nuff said.
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shitoutonme said:
who want to be seen riding around in a luxury car sitting on 22's.
Totally off topic, but could you explain what 22's are? Because every time I hear it, I immediately think of rifles, and I'm pretty sure that's not what you mean.
It's referring to 22-inch rims.
 

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You've got to be... you kicked her out? Instead of, you know, explaining "listen, I like my car, and it's done me right since I got it. I don't need something fancy".

Wow, dude.

You take that stuff way too seriously. She wasn't attacking you or anything.

Damn...
 

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I reckon it was pretty justified. I lived with a girl like that all last year.

Seriously, my TV was crappy, I didn't have enough games she liked, my kitchen stuff was cheap and shitty, I didn't wash up properly, I didn't get my clothes out of the washing machine or off the line in time. All this while she contributed nothing to the communal areas of the house, never did her washing up and always just left clothes in the washer or on the line until someone else did it.

Seriously, some people just need to learn to shut up and be appreciative. I think you probably taught her a good lesson in that today, good on you.
 

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You know, this kind reminds me of this one time back in High School when I was at a gathering with my friends. Now at the time I was the only one in my group of friends who had their driver's license so naturally I ended up giving quite a few of them rides. On this particular occasion it also happened to be the dead of winter and I had to adjust my driving accordingly. So when it came time to take people home, after a few intersections, I got a few snide remarks about how I'd pump the brakes to avoid sliding on icy roads. This irritated the hell out of me, none of them had even a learners permit, and here they were backseat driving. I don't think I said anything at the time, but it's like "ok, who all here has their driver's license? Oh just me. Ok then SHUT UP!"
 

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...Ya know what, no. You didn't overreact. You're doing her a favor - you don't have to. You don't owe her shit. Hence it's up to you to unlock the door and tell her to drag her own ass to work and she can cry about it on said account all she pleases. Tolerance for stupid bullshit isn't acceptable, because stupid bullshit doesn't have to exist as an influence of anything worth defending.
 

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I recently passed my test and have been using my mothers car since I really don't have they money for my own right now. I'm insured to drive it and everything before you start freaking out. Anyway. Last week I got a phone call from my best friend and his... Well I'm not sure what she is. He insists they're not dating but it seems otherwise. He asks if I want to go to the cinema, I say sure and offer to drive since he no longer has his car and hers was undergoing repairs.

My mothers car is a Hyundai i10. I arrive at his place and they both get into the backseat. Everything seems fine. I start the car up and off we go. Now. I always set the radio station to BBC Radio 4 simply because it's something I can listen to in the background but doesn't distract me. We get about halfway there when his "friend" leans forward from the back seat, complains that the radio station is "boring shit" and starts attempting to change the station. I immediately pull over and tell her to leave it alone since I don't appreciate her leaning over my shoulder to start pissing about with the radio. She glares at me and sits down, my best friend smiles sheepishly and off we go again. We get into the town where the cinema we're going to is. Traffic was pretty hectic so we're barely moving. And the whole time she's pointing out every tiny gap between the car we're in and the one in front, bitching about how we're gonna be late because I'm not closing an eight foot gap and how I generally can't drive. So after five minutes of this I pulled over at the next layby, turned the engine off and told her to get out.

She thought I was joking. I just said: "Get out. I'm not moving another inch in this car until you do. If you're that concerned you're going to be late then get there yourself."

She called me a prick, got out and my best friend went scrabbling after her. Moral of the story?

Don't criticise my driving and fiddle with the god damn radio from the back seat if you want me to take you somewhere.