Poll: Pc vs. Console Left 4 Dead players

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Vanguard_Ex

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You're talking shit. Go and study every console player in the world, and every PC player in the world, then come back and tell us that they do things 'on average'. We console players of L4D aren't a seperate or lesser species, don't be so fucking ridiculous.
 

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DRUNK_CANADIAN said:
PC > consoles when it comes 2 multiplatform, anyone who buys for a console when they r capable of running the game on their PC is a complete idiot
Until you remember that a console doesn't need to install anything, or has running background programs.
 

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I avoid XBL on the weekends. That's when all of the tools come out to play.

Monday-Thursday though, I usually get lobbies going with older, more mature players. And if they act foolish, I'm quick to call up a kick vote.
 

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Vanguard_Ex said:
You're talking shit. Go and study every console player in the world, and every PC player in the world, then come back and tell us that they do things 'on average'. We console players of L4D aren't a seperate or lesser species, don't be so fucking ridiculous.
I understand this but Console players are different from PC players (a mouse and keyboard allow for more degrees of variation and you cannot argue that mics and people using them are more common on PC than on Consoles) even a little change in environment can create a large change in behavior, so PC and Console players are different beasts but one is not worse than another.

I am wondering why it seems at least that the Console player is more aggressive, single minded, and unwilling to work as a group to achieve a common goal. I am not saying by any means this is an absolute truth for all players average does not equal all. It only means that the lowest common denominator of players seems to hold these traits. There will always be those that do not share these habits (I have seen many PC players that share these habits as well and have played with and befriended console players who do not) but this does not invalidate my very real and very troubling concerns. Please tell me what is the reputation of online console gamers, because like it or not every stereotype and myth has some basis in truth that is usually only exaggerated to an extreme level.

I am worried about the fact that while there is this horrible reputation that is seemingly repeated and reinforced again and again and again by player after player after player. In fact the sole reason for this thread and poll is to talk to my fellow console or PC players (and preferably those like myself who have played with random people on both) and find out why this is. I could not care less about which is better, I am only curious to the reasoning or lack there of of people who perpetuate and reinforce these negative stereotypes of console players. Remember people, when I wrote this I had just gotten off a five game streak of stupidity and dragging my team kicking and screaming to any kind of success, so the do not shop for food while hungry analogy applies. I by no means believe that PC is better than Console (I believe each has strengths and weaknesses in certain areas), but I cannot help but wonder why some people do this.

I have always been curious as to human reasoning for committing certain actions this is not an argument but in actuality a manifestation of that while everything was a lovely shade of crimson.
 

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Vanguard_Ex said:
DRUNK_CANADIAN said:
PC > consoles when it comes 2 multiplatform, anyone who buys for a console when they r capable of running the game on their PC is a complete idiot
Until you remember that a console doesn't need to install anything, or has running background programs.
Running from DVDs means longer load times.
Hows background running programs a con? :S

I play on PC and cant remember a really bad group, that were trying to be annoying anyway. Played with afew people who didnt know what they were doing but by the end of the map they pick it up if you just help them out.
Mostly like that on the free weekend though, only played two games and waited for that to be over lol.

Havn't played much online with consoles, but when I do im with people in the room, so tend to be immature/drunk/showing off and be a tard. Maybe with alot of consoles being in the main family room and are more likly to have people showing off?
Just a theory I had then.
 

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I'm wondering why you bothered staying in those games if your team frustrated you so much.

It's a fact there's less quality control on XBL; some of the reasons for it already being stated here.
 

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D4zZ said:
Vanguard_Ex said:
DRUNK_CANADIAN said:
PC > consoles when it comes 2 multiplatform, anyone who buys for a console when they r capable of running the game on their PC is a complete idiot
Until you remember that a console doesn't need to install anything, or has running background programs.
Running from DVDs means longer load times.
Hows background running programs a con? :S

I play on PC and cant remember a really bad group, that were trying to be annoying anyway. Played with afew people who didnt know what they were doing but by the end of the map they pick it up if you just help them out.
Mostly like that on the free weekend though, only played two games and waited for that to be over lol.

Havn't played much online with consoles, but when I do im with people in the room, so tend to be immature/drunk/showing off and be a tard. Maybe with alot of consoles being in the main family room and are more likly to have people showing off?
Just a theory I had then.
Because running background programs can end up minimising the game or eating up RAM?
But your theory about the consoles possibly being in a family room is a bloody good point, I've never thought about that. That's a pretty solid theory.
 

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DRUNK_CANADIAN said:
Vanguard_Ex said:
DRUNK_CANADIAN said:
PC > consoles when it comes 2 multiplatform, anyone who buys for a console when they r capable of running the game on their PC is a complete idiot
Until you remember that a console doesn't need to install anything, or has running background programs.
And waiting for an install on your PC kills you so much, and you should know that installing the games to where they run off the HDD makes the performance better. Additionally the controls and communities are better and larger respectively. A console version can't compete with the PC one if your PC can run both. Clearly you must not have a gaming PC lol.
Actually I do have a 'gaming PC lol', so you've just proven how illogically presumptuous you are. I didn't say anything about PC install times killing you, if you're going to argue with somebody, don't make up points they didn't say. I was stating them as reasons as to why some people may choose to play a game on a console because, as we know, PCs have an finite amount of space.
 
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Got it cheap when my xbox copy was with a friend. I prefer the 360 version to be honest. People on the 360 are less elitist, everyone i've played with on the PC version has only been interested in winning and that's not fun.
 

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DRUNK_CANADIAN said:
Vanguard_Ex said:
DRUNK_CANADIAN said:
Vanguard_Ex said:
DRUNK_CANADIAN said:
PC > consoles when it comes 2 multiplatform, anyone who buys for a console when they r capable of running the game on their PC is a complete idiot
Until you remember that a console doesn't need to install anything, or has running background programs.
And waiting for an install on your PC kills you so much, and you should know that installing the games to where they run off the HDD makes the performance better. Additionally the controls and communities are better and larger respectively. A console version can't compete with the PC one if your PC can run both. Clearly you must not have a gaming PC lol.
Actually I do have a 'gaming PC lol', so you've just proven how illogically presumptuous you are. I didn't say anything about PC install times killing you, if you're going to argue with somebody, don't make up points they didn't say. I was stating them as reasons as to why some people may choose to play a game on a console because, as we know, PCs have an finite amount of space.
"PCs have a finite amount of space" lol WTF?

You can upgrade your hard drive or your RAM or actually pretty much any component if you even have part of your brain. Its actually quite the opposite when it comes to gaming. And please explain what about the installation process is so bad if that's not what you meant. Since it is the only flaw to it. Don't talk about things you don't have a clue about. I won't be responding anymore to someone who lacks basic computer knowledge.
You act as though I'm stupid, yet you're the one who would respond to a perfectly reasonable statement with 'lol WTF'. Don't embarrass yourself. You can keep on upgrading all you like, it's still going to have a finite amount of space. Especially when you consider that some people just may not have the money for it. I never said there was anything horrific about an install time, yet again you assume these arguments from me. It was simply an example of how consoles can be, in some cases, more convenient than a gaming PC. You're incredibly fucking arrogant to assume I know nothing of PCs just because you don't see my point. Don't respond if you really need this to confirm to yourself just how godly your knowledge of computers is. I bow to you, oh mighty fucking messiah.
 

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DRUNK_CANADIAN said:
First of all calm the fuck down. Secondly you still haven't answered my question or said anything concrete. Consoles have finite space as well by your reasoning, if you mean HDD space. You have no knowledge of this, and I am beginning to assume I am arguing with a little kid who gets home from school and thinks he can preach to an individual with more computer knowledge yet SAYS NOTHING. But makes accusations that I am making assumptions, hell that's what I have to do when you can't state your thoughts in a clear manner. Grow the fuck up and accept you are wrong, and that as a general rule when games come cross platform with PC, the PC generally holds the better version. Due to modding capabilities, unlimited enhancement in terms of hardware, variable specifications,and more precise controls (mouse is superior to the joystick). You are welcome to LIKE the console version more however that is merely personal preference, otherwise the PC version is almost always superior statistically based on specs.
I'll calm down when you stop being an arrogant fucking bastard and assuming someone has no knowledge of something just because you think they've made an incorrect point. Just because you don't see my point, it does not mean I have said nothing. It just means I've said nothing you understand. In any case you can stop those (once again wildly incorrect) assumptions, because I am not a child. Again, you show your uncanny arrogance.
In this case, although you would state I'm merely arguing personal preference, you've been doing the very same by saying that the PC is better. So I guess you're hypocritical as well as self-righteous. I've said all I wanted to say, in that PCs aren't necessarily better than consoles because there can be many confounding elements to a PC which you don't encounter with consoles. If you still don't understand this then it's obvious I'm not the problem in communication here.
 

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The Young One said:
I currently play on my Xbox, but I'm looking into getting a better laptop.
Then I'd consider buying the TF2, Half-Life and L4D pack they have :)
Screw that, ill buy you them ^^

console for me
 

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PC both for aforementioned reasons and the fact that it's a lot simpler/more comfortable finding friends/games on the PC. Also, you can't get your own clan server on Xbox - no hunter games or fan-made maps ;)
 

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I ONLY own the console version and I've found many great teams with some descent strategies. I usually try to avoid using "game glitches" to my advantage as I find it a sort of cheap way to play the game. Personally, it can be pretty fun having a team that sucks. You just imagine that, in the zombie apocalypse, You can't choose the people you are working with, If you get stuck with morons, you gotta deal with morons, but even the thickest groups (thick as in stupid that is) know how to stick together to survive, if someone IS stupid enough to run out on their own, then they learn pretty quickly from hunters and smokers that it's not a bright idea.

The idea of Left 4 Dead in my opinion, is to bring together unlikely groups of people and FORCE them to work together to survive. If I ran into these people in any other game, I would leave the match immediately.
 

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DRUNK_CANADIAN said:
Dodge my questions more fool. Explain your argument with regards to finite space, and how the console is better from a factual stand point. The only advantage is it is more economical normally, and I CLEARLY stated that I was comparing a gaming PC against a console if money was no option. All you are doing is raging in your comments while failing to hold an argument, you may not be a child, but you act like one.
If I wanted to dodge questions, I wouldn't keep trying to explain myself. Apparently in vain, seeing as you're reading what you want to read. I haven't said that consoles are better from a factual standpoint. You still seem to have this idea stuck in your head that one must be better than the other. And actually, no, I think you'll find reading back that you did not mention money once. By the way, if you think any of that was raging, you've yet to see someone angry. You may not be an idiot, but you act like one.
 

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DRUNK_CANADIAN said:
Vanguard_Ex said:
DRUNK_CANADIAN said:
Dodge my questions more fool. Explain your argument with regards to finite space, and how the console is better from a factual stand point. The only advantage is it is more economical normally, and I CLEARLY stated that I was comparing a gaming PC against a console if money was no option. All you are doing is raging in your comments while failing to hold an argument, you may not be a child, but you act like one.
If I wanted to dodge questions, I wouldn't keep trying to explain myself. Apparently in vain, seeing as you're reading what you want to read. I haven't said that consoles are better from a factual standpoint. You still seem to have this idea stuck in your head that one must be better than the other. And actually, no, I think you'll find reading back that you did not mention money once. By the way, if you think any of that was raging, you've yet to see someone angry. You may not be an idiot, but you act like one.
Well now that you concede that you do not believe consoles to be better from a factual standpoint presumably with multi-platform games I have nothing to argue since that was essentially my point (any other comparisons are essentially futile since they involve opinion). As to my reference to money it was in that I was comparing the games on a gaming PC versus a console, I assumed that money was not a matter of conflict with respect to the consoles since we were discussing the games. I'll leave it at this.
Then rather than carry on I'll just state it was never my belief that consoles were better, simply that neither was better. But fuck it, doesn't matter.